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      05-18-2017, 09:54 AM   #1
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Used M-Sport vs New M-Performance brake kits

Im sure this has been beaten dead, but I cant find it.

Im looking to upgrade my F31 328d brakes, I like the blue but only comes in M-Sport. The gold is nice as well. From what I read the sport have 4 piston front and 2 rear and it looks like the Performance have the same 4/2. Only difference is the rotors 340/370. I keep finding M-sport calipers (with out rotors) for 900-1000 (shipped and used). So as much as I like the blue calipers its looking like its better to buy NEW M-Performance bake kit and no worry about usage or anything. Question is, with installing both kits are there any thing else that are need to be done. i.e new brake lines, programming, etc.. from what i read m-sport is just bolt and go but haven't found anything about m-Performance .
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Why the upgrade? Aesthetics? You power doesn't require those brakes. A lot of money to spend for looks alone
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Im sure this has been beaten dead, but I cant find it.

Im looking to upgrade my F31 328d brakes, I like the blue but only comes in M-Sport. The gold is nice as well. From what I read the sport have 4 piston front and 2 rear and it looks like the Performance have the same 4/2. Only difference is the rotors 340/370. I keep finding M-sport calipers (with out rotors) for 900-1000 (shipped and used). So as much as I like the blue calipers its looking like its better to buy NEW M-Performance bake kit and no worry about usage or anything. Question is, with installing both kits are there any thing else that are need to be done. i.e new brake lines, programming, etc.. from what i read m-sport is just bolt and go but haven't found anything about m-Performance .
Both will need coding for the ABS to work properly.

As for gold or blue... if you've got a good shop i'm sure they'll do a good job fitting either, not sure you're going to be much cheaper with used parts here though.
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Why the upgrade? Aesthetics? You power doesn't require those brakes. A lot of money to spend for looks alone
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As pointed out, yes they will need to be coded. You might want to change the update lines too since you're already getting it done. I know I'll be upgrading it all together at one time.
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Why the upgrade? Aesthetics? You power doesn't require those brakes. A lot of money to spend for looks alone
Yes and yes why but a BMW if it cost more than a geo? As far as power not too concerned with my car or others. Face it we don't have drag cars lol. I want to upgrade the brakes because they look awesome and better braking is a plus.
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Both will need coding for the ABS to work properly.

As for gold or blue... if you've got a good shop i'm sure they'll do a good job fitting either, not sure you're going to be much cheaper with used parts here though.
Agreed! As much as I like the blue . For 200 bucks more I get the gold m performance front and reads (exclusions read rotors). But do the m performance fit the 328d? I'm finding that hard to find if it does
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As pointed out, yes they will need to be coded. You might want to change the update lines too since you're already getting it done. I know I'll be upgrading it all together at one time.
Haven't seen anyone upgrade their lines in the mix. Do have part numbers or threads I can look into? If the current lines work for both I'm ok with keeping them since it's not going to be crazy brake stops and what not lol
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Haven't seen anyone upgrade their lines in the mix. Do have part numbers or threads I can look into? If the current lines work for both I'm ok with keeping them since it's not going to be crazy brake stops and what not lol
Current lines work, but for me, if I'm doing everything else new, I would want new lines. Here's a link to some for sale: https://www.ecstuning.com/b-ecs-part...2566ecs01akt1/
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Agreed! As much as I like the blue . For 200 bucks more I get the gold m performance front and reads (exclusions read rotors). But do the m performance fit the 328d? I'm finding that hard to find if it does
Here's the sheet from BMW, sorry it's in french but the compatibility table says it all page 2 & 3
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0Bx...3FvWjdBMTRTdTQ

You've got part numbers for the kit + for the rear disc (small size p2, large size p3)

Yours should be page 2, 328d US, 328d xDrive uses the larger rear discs p3.
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For me I bought some from M sport brakes with 340mm rotors...I was about to pull the trigger on some M performance rears, when I found a used M performance set in gold including F/R rotors and brand new ECS brake lines. I powder coated the brakes myself to get the color I truly wanted. You will have to hunt for deals and it may take a while...but the new M performance kits do not include rear rotors...so that will add another $400+ to the price.

I am halfway done with my brake install...fronts installed Friday...rears getting done today. I love the look and I did it for aesthetics as well....changes the entire look of the car, IMO.

you can see the new brake lines in the last picture.

So I would buy used and get them powder coated any color that really compliments the color of your car.
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I'm a big boy and have been on these forums for a decade plus. I get the sensitive members and base model upgrades. Just curious still why some don't put that money under the hood and then a lot of these upgrades come standard.
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Yes and yes why but a BMW if it cost more than a geo? As far as power not too concerned with my car or others. Face it we don't have drag cars lol. I want to upgrade the brakes because they look awesome and better braking is a plus.
Aesthetics any performance mods done yet?
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I'm a big boy and have been on these forums for a decade plus. I get the sensitive members and base model upgrades. Just curious still why some don't put that money under the hood and then a lot of these upgrades come standard.
Well it all depends on what your goals are. Some people pour a lot of money into aesthetic mods alone on these forums, while others pour it into performance upgrades. Doesn't make one better than the other - just a different set of priorities.
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I'm a big boy and have been on these forums for a decade plus. I get the sensitive members and base model upgrades. Just curious still why some don't put that money under the hood and then a lot of these upgrades come standard.
Not everyone could afford the higher models when they went shopping for their car. Maybe they got a good deal they couldn't pass up. Too many variables go into the car buying process. Once you get the car you can wait a until your finances are ready for some of the mods you wanted. Everyone's situation is different.
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I'm a big boy and have been on these forums for a decade plus. I get the sensitive members and base model upgrades. Just curious still why some don't put that money under the hood and then a lot of these upgrades come standard.
I have also been on forums for a decade plus and driving for almost 4 decades (damn I feel old) and as I get older, I don't care about go fast parts. I don't track cars anymore and I can't legally drive 100+ MPH on the street, so I do what makes me happy...aesthetics. So why pay extra for a faster car just to get calipers, when I can add them myself cheaper than the 335/340 would have cost? I think the base price of the 335/340 is $9k over the 328/330. I have not spent anywhere close to that in upgrades, which include M3 wheels, M performance BBK, and full real carbon fiber interior trim. In fact none of my upgrades would have been included with the 335/340.

We all are different, that is what makes the forums great...we get to see everyone's take on their perfect car, whether it be go fast parts, or purely pretty parts. Happy modding.
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do the m sport brakes need coding? i know the m performance kit brake does
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do the m sport brakes need coding? i know the m performance kit brake does
Someone feel free to correct me if im wrong. But from what I read, the swapping to brembo front you dont need coding but for the rears you will.
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