SMG is here!

DavE90 · 02-25-2006, 06:47 PM

Look at my new owner's manual

0700700 · 02-25-2006, 07:25 PM

yes ! one for the team

PLEASE SCAN PAGE 47, which talks about the acceleration assistant

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Originally Posted by DavE90

I just took delivery of my car...look what's in my owners manual

he posted this in the previous thread if you need clarification

0700700 · 02-25-2006, 07:34 PM

damn, i thought that was exciting news ? am i missing out on something

where is everybody

DavE90 · 02-25-2006, 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 0700700

yes ! one for the team

PLEASE SCAN PAGE 47, which talks about the acceleration assistant

he posted this in the previous thread if you need clarification

Here's page 47

Kamando · 02-25-2006, 09:06 PM

All the owners manuals talk about SMG they never bothered to take it out.

BMW0 · 02-25-2006, 09:16 PM

Kamando your Avatar is awesome.

Ethirtynine · 02-25-2006, 09:18 PM

I don't understand. Does this mean you can order SMG NOW or is it coming?

Kamando · 02-25-2006, 09:29 PM

It was originally supposed to be available then it was cancelled so I doubt it.

Brett · 02-25-2006, 11:12 PM

Yeah, I am pretty sure SMG is being "put on hold" for the ZSG stuff. I would be shocked if its available, considering its not even available for the brand new Z4. I think they are waiting until ZSG is revealed (with the 335 coupe I presume) and then it will become an option for the Z4 and rest of the 3-series.

Squawks · 02-26-2006, 01:19 AM

Kamando is right. SMG-I used to be available for the E90.

In fact, when it first came out, I built my E90 on the bmwusa website and it offered SMG at the time. The option was about $150 premium over the slushbox, if my memory serves me right.

SMG-II for the E46 M3 holds a much higher premium (relative to SMG-I).

E90Fleet · 02-26-2006, 02:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Squawks

Kamando is right. SMG-I used to be available for the E90.

In fact, when it first came out, I built my E90 on the bmwusa website and it offered SMG at the time. The option was about $150 premium over the slushbox, if my memory serves me right.

SMG-II for the E46 M3 holds a much higher premium (relative to SMG-I).

SMG I was only available on a few E36 M3

SMG II was available on "normal" E46 and E60

SMG II with DriveLogic was available on the E46 M3

SMG III with DriveLogic is available on the E60 M6 and E63 M6

petesamprs · 02-26-2006, 08:07 AM

You mean E60 M5 right?

mikepinkerton · 02-26-2006, 10:23 AM

Yeah, it's always been in the manual. This is not news.

-Mike

ben1364 · 02-26-2006, 10:29 AM

I am convinced that the SMG is not available on E 90 cars, at least in the U S market. Does anyone have one or at least a build sheet indicating that one is in the pipeline? If not, let's drop it. <G>

espo · 02-26-2006, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Kamando

All the owners manuals talk about SMG they never bothered to take it out.

Agreed... It's in mine also (car built in Sep 2005). Guess they didn't want to spend the money to redo the manual after they decided not to offer it as an option

Tierfreund · 02-27-2006, 11:44 AM

SMG for the E90 never made it to the market. Not in the US and not anywhere else in the world. Apart from some test mules, none were ever built for customers. It was originally sheduled for Septmeber05 but then was withdrawn before anybody could ever order one. The passages have been in many early manuals, so this is not an indication of a change in availablity (not even regional), but rather of an overstock of early manuals. Some dealers (as usual) don´t know their head from their butt and still talk about SMG beeing an available option simply because there is an option code for it (since it got pretty close to introduction, no wonder). But noone could deliver an E90/91/92 with SMG.

(Non-M) SMG as we know it is dead. It´s not coming to the E90 and it´s beeing pulled from the Z4 with the facelift. Expect it to be discontinued in the 5 and 6 series sooner or later as well.

The future is ZSG.

Tierfreund · 02-27-2006, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Squawks

Kamando is right. SMG-I used to be available for the E90.

In fact, when it first came out, I built my E90 on the bmwusa website and it offered SMG at the time. The option was about $150 premium over the slushbox, if my memory serves me right.
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Usually SMG was cheaper than the slush. And it allways was only an option on paper for the E90. You could never order it and never get an E90 delivered with it.

vladinecko · 02-27-2006, 11:49 AM

unless it was significantly better than both step and manual transmissions (ie. delivered better 0-60 times), i wouldn't order it anyways...

Squawks · 02-27-2006, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Tierfreund

You could never order it and never get an E90 delivered with it.

Yup, apparently so.

If the new ZSG technology really imitates the double-clutch technology used in DSG, then yes, the 0-60 times will be faster.

E90Fleet - do you happen to know why the E46 3 series sufferred numerous problems with their SMG transmission while on the other hand, the E46 M3's SMG did not? Is the Drivelogic that beneficial or perhaps BMW practice better quality control with the M models?

Kamando · 02-27-2006, 02:42 PM

All in favor of changing this thread to "SMG IS NOT and WILL NOT be here" ?

0700700 · 02-27-2006, 05:40 PM

hey guys.. i cant find anything about the smg box in the e90 owners manual ??? how come

prototyp · 02-27-2006, 05:51 PM

I recall reading that manufacturers were beginning to license VW/Audi's DSG technology... is there any way to confirm it might be the basis for 'ZSG'? DSG's good stuff, btw.

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Tierfreund Major 21 Rep 1,002 Posts Drives: E90 330i Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Germany iTrader: (0)	SMG for the E90 never made it to the market. Not in the US and not anywhere else in the world. Apart from some test mules, none were ever built for customers. It was originally sheduled for Septmeber05 but then was withdrawn before anybody could ever order one. The passages have been in many early manuals, so this is not an indication of a change in availablity (not even regional), but rather of an overstock of early manuals. Some dealers (as usual) don´t know their head from their butt and still talk about SMG beeing an available option simply because there is an option code for it (since it got pretty close to introduction, no wonder). But noone could deliver an E90/91/92 with SMG. (Non-M) SMG as we know it is dead. It´s not coming to the E90 and it´s beeing pulled from the Z4 with the facelift. Expect it to be discontinued in the 5 and 6 series sooner or later as well. The future is ZSG. __________________ No, not THAT kind of tierfreund!
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