[RustyBitz]

Will the VED be based on the list price or the price you actually pay?

List price for the 335d is £41k without options!

It won't change my mind regarding the VED but would be nice to prepare for my pants getting pulled down and bent over by the government for next few years.

[dizzy619]

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[NISFAN]

Based on the full OTR price, including factory options and delivery cost, less number plates, fuel, registration and RFL cost.

But very clear in your case, luxury bracket.

[RustyBitz]

Originally Posted by NISFAN

Based on the full OTR price, including factory options and delivery cost, less number plates, fuel, registration and RFL cost.

But very clear in your case, luxury bracket.

That's totally crap! But oh well, I will take the hit and probably keep the car longer than initially intending.

My friend has a brand new S3 saloon that's just tipped into the £40k bracket with options.

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Originally Posted by RustyBitz

That's totally crap! But oh well, I will take the hit and probably keep the car longer than initially intending.

My friend has a brand new S3 saloon that's just tipped into the £40k bracket with options.

With cars such as BMW top end models (including 3 series 6 cylinder ones), it's a given you will pay full wack, so pointless skimping on options.

This the likes of S3, VW Golfs and lesser BMW's, it does mean really watching your options.

When specing my Golf R I was very aware how easy it was moving from my £38900 to £40000, it's like specing leather or some other option that is more of a nice to have.

So paying top rate VED with a Golf would be stupid, however sort of inevitable when buying a decent 3 series.

Oh and with Golf R, I can have some options fitted by the dealer - such as reversing camera for about £100 more than option price.

[RustyBitz]

Originally Posted by Brigand

With cars such as BMW top end models (including 3 series 6 cylinder ones), it's a given you will pay full wack, so pointless skimping on options.

This the likes of S3, VW Golfs and lesser BMW's, it does mean really watching your options.

When specing my Golf R I was very aware how easy it was moving from my £38900 to £40000, it's like specing leather or some other option that is more of a nice to have.

So paying top rate VED with a Golf would be stupid, however sort of inevitable when buying a decent 3 series.

Oh and with Golf R, I can have some options fitted by the dealer - such as reversing camera for about £100 more than option price.

Couldn't agree more. I have a 4 pot diesel at the moment but really fancy the 6 pot I'm happy to take the hit.

[DougMcL]

Originally Posted by Brigand

With cars such as BMW top end models (including 3 series 6 cylinder ones), it's a given you will pay full wack, so pointless skimping on options.

So paying top rate VED with a Golf would be stupid, however sort of inevitable when buying a decent 3 series.

You can spec a reasonable 330d under the £40k mark list with a few select options. That'll be less likely thought after the July price rise.

[NISFAN]

Originally Posted by RustyBitz

That's totally crap! But oh well, I will take the hit and probably keep the car longer than initially intending.

My friend has a brand new S3 saloon that's just tipped into the £40k bracket with options.

It's stupid, I would have preferred to see a heavy tax band applied to the amount of the car over a certain value. For example, they could have set the bracket at £30k with a luxury penalty on any portion that goes over. So £40k car? Equals £30k at low rate and the additional £10k at luxury rate. With maybe a cap at a certain value.

This new method doesn't do much to the super luxury cars, in fact it probably works out better for some high priced cars as there are normally also high polluting cars on the old system. So yet again a tax for the middle upper class.

My new car with the options I wanted came out at a BMW OTR cost of £40,705.
So I deleted privacy glass, which brought it to £40,480 and just in the standard bracket (£500, first year road fund) . There was no help from the salesman to avoid, which means in a parallel universe, if I hadn't have known I could have been paying around £2000 for tinted windows. :

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Originally Posted by DougMcL

You can spec a reasonable 330d under the £40k mark list with a few select options. That'll be less likely thought after the July price rise.

I just specced a 330d, only things I added were, adaptive MSport sus, MSport brakes and heated seats £40k dead on.

That's for the salon, so very basic.

[DougMcL]

330d Luxury (I know it's not an M Sport)
HK
Heated seats
Black Panel
Extended storage
Heated wheel
£40,065

I could live with that.

[isleaiw1]

Originally Posted by DougMcL

330d Luxury (I know it's not an M Sport)
HK
Heated seats
Black Panel
Extended storage
Heated wheel
£40,065

I could live with that.

It's over so would still pay higher price - drop something...

[DougMcL]

That's an on the road price which would include £140 VED so is still under

[Signpost]

Originally Posted by NISFAN

It's stupid, I would have preferred to see a heavy tax band applied to the amount of the car over a certain value. For example, they could have set the bracket at £30k with a luxury penalty on any portion that goes over. So £40k car? Equals £30k at low rate and the additional £10k at luxury rate. With maybe a cap at a certain value.

This new method doesn't do much to the super luxury cars, in fact it probably works out better for some high priced cars as there are normally also high polluting cars on the old system. So yet again a tax for the middle upper class.

My new car with the options I wanted came out at a BMW OTR cost of £40,705.
So I deleted privacy glass, which brought it to £40,480 and just in the standard bracket (£500, first year road fund) . There was no help from the salesman to avoid, which means in a parallel universe, if I hadn't have known I could have been paying around £2000 for tinted windows. :

Are you talking about a car that you have just ordered. If so have you fractured in possible price rises? Your dealer might honour the order price but the DVLA will not do so. That said, the 3 Series appears to be going up over £1k in July!

It seems to me that unless the Manufacturers change any price rise point from the beginning of the month, waiting for a car plate change, is more likely to catch buyers out, in this price range.

Crystal Ball anyone? .

[RustyBitz]

It's a big shit storm this VED, why couldn't they introduce to higher tax bracket on £60k+ cars?

It feels like the ones who work their backsides off and want something nice get stung, it's crazy that a £40k 3 series is the same tax as a super car!