Redesigned E90 Predator ICE Angel Eyes

Holygrail · 05-09-2008, 12:39 AM

Has anyone seen the new Predator ICE yet? I just received mine a few days ago, but I haven't installed them yet. I waited for weeks to receive them, too! The difference now is it's plug and play. It looks very similar to the PIAA Angel eyes. But there's only one question that comes to mind. There is no right and left specific pieces, nor are the two pieces symmetric. The two pieces are identical twins. For example, your right and left feet are not symmetric, but they are split mirror images. Another example, when you buy a pair of shoes, you get one left shoe and one right shoe. You're not going to buy two left shoes and try to wear them, b/c the right foot wouldn't fit the left shoe properly. This was the case when I bought the Predator Ice, there was no left AND right specific pieces. Instead, there were either 2 rights or 2 lefts. IS THAT NORMAL? I don't want to go through all the trouble of taking my car apart only to find out that one of the sides won't fit. I'm just wondering if this is a packaging error. Any idea folks? Do you have identical twin parts as well?? Thanks.

v/r
Chris

Papa13 · 05-09-2008, 01:26 AM

Hmm.. i dont know.. I wonder is these are easier to install though?

That would make me want them a little but more haha

remmib · 05-09-2008, 08:00 AM

Any pics??

Mine are right and left marked, and the were plug and play.

BMW F22 · 05-09-2008, 12:16 PM

There is a left and a right one. When looking at the units one of them should have 2 (left) holes while the other only has 1(right). Look at the bottom right corner of the unit in the picture below and you will notice there is only 1 hole there. That's the unit for the passenger side. The driver's side has 2 holes. Hope that helps.

BMW F22 · 05-09-2008, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Papa13

Hmm.. i dont know.. I wonder is these are easier to install though?

That would make me want them a little but more haha

I'm sure they're both about the same. Regardless, the install is really easy. Once you've taken off the wheel, it only takes about 10-15 minutes to install the unit.

ALPINE6SPD · 05-09-2008, 07:47 PM

pics anyone?

Mattscott · 05-09-2008, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Kenny@JleviSW

I'm sure they're both about the same. Regardless, the install is really easy. Once you've taken off the wheel, it only takes about 10-15 minutes to install the unit.

I wouldn't say really easy, unscrewing the innner torx screw is kinda a PITA

Holygrail · 05-10-2008, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Kenny@JleviSW

There is a left and a right one. When looking at the units one of them should have 2 (left) holes while the other only has 1(right). Look at the bottom right corner of the unit in the picture below and you will notice there is only 1 hole there. That's the unit for the passenger side. The driver's side has 2 holes. Hope that helps.

Kenny,

You don't understand. The new Predator Ice (Version 2) looks completely different from the picture you provided. If there were pictures posted on the new ones I wouldn't have this issue. No more wires sticking out anywhere and no more separate resistors. It's all internal built like a cylindrical mass. It's completely plug and play, just like the PIAA angeleyes. The problem is that it is not symmetrical. As I mentioned in my first example...try wearing two pairs of left shoes all day long, will it work? If you force it maybe and not without consequences. Now imagine this with the ICE. I'm going to install it today. According to Umnitza, there shouldn't be a problem, but honestly, they didn't understand the two-left shoe concept.

benny90 · 05-10-2008, 09:33 AM

Hmmm, didn't know they had a version 2 out yet.. take some pics, it will be kinda hard to help you since its a new product and it seem like your the first to have them...

e90AW335i · 05-10-2008, 01:37 PM

I didn't know that there was a right and left one....

I hope mine are installed right, they havent fallen off yet....

benny90 · 05-10-2008, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by e90AW335i

I didn't know that there was a right and left one....

I hope mine are installed right, they havent fallen off yet....

+1 yikes!

Holygrail · 05-10-2008, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by e90AW335i

I didn't know that there was a right and left one....

I hope mine are installed right, they havent fallen off yet....

I'm not sure if there is a right one and left one. That's why I created this blog to see if there's anyone that might know that answer. I call it the two left-shoe concept. I took some pictures to post, and I'm working on posting them as we speak. You'll see what I'm talking about.

Holygrail · 05-10-2008, 03:29 PM

Here are the pics. Notice how the left and right piece look identical, rather than being a split MIRROR image (two left-shoe concept).

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*always have trouble posting pictures...hope it works

benny90 · 05-10-2008, 07:57 PM

Are you sure those are the ones for the E90 sedan?? They look very much like the ones for the 5 series..... or at least they don't look like Predator ICE.. did you buy them on ebay?

Mattscott · 05-10-2008, 08:00 PM

Those do look like 2 of the same units

BMW F22 · 05-10-2008, 08:14 PM

Those don't look like E90 Predator Ice at all. The ones we carry are the square ones like the picture I've posted. I would suggest you contact your vendor and make sure that those are for the E90 (which dont look like they will fit).

Holygrail · 05-11-2008, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by benny90

Are you sure those are the ones for the E90 sedan?? They look very much like the ones for the 5 series..... or at least they don't look like Predator ICE.. did you buy them on ebay?

Benny...nope didn't buy it on eBay. These are the new Umnitza Predator ICE for the E90 330i/335i. I purchased it from **********. These are so new, the glue hasn't even set yet. I kinda turned the top a bit just to see if it would unscrew or not...and it came lose. I had to reglue it. Well, these are Umnitza's new design. They've been very secretly about these...I've spoken to them.

Holygrail · 05-11-2008, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by zwbmwfans

I am sure it is for E90 and E91.

Two version:
- output:3W
- output:6W

Did you install it yet? I was wondering if you had the same issues with the screws being too long as the old Umnitza Angel eyes had. Did you change to the 1 1/4 inch screws. I notice the Umnitza Predator Ice product I ordered looked identical to the Racing Dash. Something smells fishy...but all I care about is this working.

Holygrail · 05-11-2008, 03:34 PM

[QUOTE=zwbmwfans;2645503]I am sure it is for E90 and E91.

zwbmwfans...I checked the serial number on your box to mine and they are an identical match. I guess we discovered wassup now! I wonder if ********** knows what's up since I bought these from them...that Umnitza is taking credit for this new plug and place (Racing Dash) device. Just wondering, where did you purchase yours and how much did you pay for yours? Me, $129 incl shipping.

Blistex · 05-11-2008, 10:15 PM

This is not predator ice.
It's made by a Taiwanese company.

Got any installed pic?

Blistex · 05-12-2008, 06:03 AM

pretty neat. what is the Lumen for the 6W?

got any daytime photo?

I heard the rumor new 30 Watts LED will be soon available for the E90.

I wonder how many watts/lumen for the LUX 4.0 or 5.0?

benny90 · 05-12-2008, 07:50 AM

[QUOTE=Holygrail;2647813]

Quote:

Originally Posted by zwbmwfans

I am sure it is for E90 and E91.

zwbmwfans...I checked the serial number on your box to mine and they are an identical match. I guess we discovered wassup now! I wonder if ********** knows what's up since I bought these from them...that Umnitza is taking credit for this new plug and place (Racing Dash) device. Just wondering, where did you purchase yours and how much did you pay for yours? Me, $129 incl shipping.

Thats really messed up if **********'s are trying to pass these off as Predator ICE. It looks like the "Racing Dash" name on the front of yours was purposely scratched off. I have only heard terrible things about **********s... what sh**ty business ethics if they are trying to pass these off as legit, hope they have a good explination for this.....

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Holygrail Private First Class 11 Rep 112 Posts Drives: 2008 BMW E90 335i Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: NJ and VA iTrader: (0) Garage List 2008 335i Sedan [0.00]	Redesigned E90 Predator ICE Angel Eyes Has anyone seen the new Predator ICE yet? I just received mine a few days ago, but I haven't installed them yet. I waited for weeks to receive them, too! The difference now is it's plug and play. It looks very similar to the PIAA Angel eyes. But there's only one question that comes to mind. There is no right and left specific pieces, nor are the two pieces symmetric. The two pieces are identical twins. For example, your right and left feet are not symmetric, but they are split mirror images. Another example, when you buy a pair of shoes, you get one left shoe and one right shoe. You're not going to buy two left shoes and try to wear them, b/c the right foot wouldn't fit the left shoe properly. This was the case when I bought the Predator Ice, there was no left AND right specific pieces. Instead, there were either 2 rights or 2 lefts. IS THAT NORMAL? I don't want to go through all the trouble of taking my car apart only to find out that one of the sides won't fit. I'm just wondering if this is a packaging error. Any idea folks? Do you have identical twin parts as well?? Thanks. v/r Chris __________________ 2008 335i Sedan: Met blk, Blk Lthr w/ pop wood, Sp pkg, Pr Pkg, Cold Pkg, Navi, Sat Radio, Carb Fiber Fr Lo lips and roudrels, Tints (20%), Clear Bra (360 degrees-incl doors), Blackline Tails, red calipers. 18x8.5 & 9.5 Ruff Racing Staggered wheels (saved 6-7 lbs/wheel, CP-E Custom Exhaust system, SS-Turbo Tuner, KN&N, CDV. Future mods: 6-spd Illum Lthr Short Shifter, Eibach Anti-roll bars
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Holygrail Private First Class 11 Rep 112 Posts Drives: 2008 BMW E90 335i Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: NJ and VA iTrader: (0) Garage List 2008 335i Sedan [0.00]	New Predator ICE E90 Angel Eyes (Ver 2) Pictures posted Here are the pics. Notice how the left and right piece look identical, rather than being a split MIRROR image (two left-shoe concept). *always have trouble posting pictures...hope it works __________________ 2008 335i Sedan: Met blk, Blk Lthr w/ pop wood, Sp pkg, Pr Pkg, Cold Pkg, Navi, Sat Radio, Carb Fiber Fr Lo lips and roudrels, Tints (20%), Clear Bra (360 degrees-incl doors), Blackline Tails, red calipers. 18x8.5 & 9.5 Ruff Racing Staggered wheels (saved 6-7 lbs/wheel, CP-E Custom Exhaust system, SS-Turbo Tuner, KN&N, CDV. Future mods: 6-spd Illum Lthr Short Shifter, Eibach Anti-roll bars
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BMW F22 Major General 3566 Rep 9,788 Posts Drives: ///M235i Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Bay Area iTrader: (8)	Those don't look like E90 Predator Ice at all. The ones we carry are the square ones like the picture I've posted. I would suggest you contact your vendor and make sure that those are for the E90 (which dont look like they will fit).
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Holygrail Private First Class 11 Rep 112 Posts Drives: 2008 BMW E90 335i Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: NJ and VA iTrader: (0) Garage List 2008 335i Sedan [0.00]	New discovery!!! [QUOTE=zwbmwfans;2645503]I am sure it is for E90 and E91. zwbmwfans...I checked the serial number on your box to mine and they are an identical match. I guess we discovered wassup now! I wonder if ********** knows what's up since I bought these from them...that Umnitza is taking credit for this new plug and place (Racing Dash) device. Just wondering, where did you purchase yours and how much did you pay for yours? Me, $129 incl shipping. __________________ 2008 335i Sedan: Met blk, Blk Lthr w/ pop wood, Sp pkg, Pr Pkg, Cold Pkg, Navi, Sat Radio, Carb Fiber Fr Lo lips and roudrels, Tints (20%), Clear Bra (360 degrees-incl doors), Blackline Tails, red calipers. 18x8.5 & 9.5 Ruff Racing Staggered wheels (saved 6-7 lbs/wheel, CP-E Custom Exhaust system, SS-Turbo Tuner, KN&N, CDV. Future mods: 6-spd Illum Lthr Short Shifter, Eibach Anti-roll bars
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Blistex Banned 12 Rep 470 Posts Drives: E90 + E93 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: OC iTrader: (0)	This is not predator ice. It's made by a Taiwanese company. Got any installed pic?
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Blistex Banned 12 Rep 470 Posts Drives: E90 + E93 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: OC iTrader: (0)	pretty neat. what is the Lumen for the 6W? got any daytime photo? I heard the rumor new 30 Watts LED will be soon available for the E90. I wonder how many watts/lumen for the LUX 4.0 or 5.0?
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