[N54_e90]

anyone in the gta have any experience with them? was looking to get the tune for my 2011 323i: http://eurocharged.ca/product/bmw-e9...gine-software/

apparently they have a black friday sale next week (25% off). appreciate any insight.

[rick100]

I ve heard its garbage and this is coming from the dealer that used to install them

I would say stick with bpc or aa. I

[6ixSpd]

I wouldn't put anything EC on my car, let alone a tune.

[N54_e90]

Any specific experiences or issues you guys can tell me about? They have good reviews on google and i found someone who had a good experience with them: http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=627153

[N52UNED]

I can't say anything specially about EC tunes ... however that is a tread from 2011 so who knows if that tune has been updated between now and then. And any other reviews aren't since 2012. Also from the looks of it EC hasn't been active on the boards since 2013. And their Eurocharged Performance - Master N52 Tuning Thread has been closed. Which may or may not matter to you, but personally I like knowing my tuner is a contributor to the boards. Plus they don't have a single review published on their own website.

Frankly if I was putting down my hard earned money on a tune ... I'd want the latest tune available. Both AA and BPC have current updated tunes. Although I am a bit biased, BPC has the best N52 tune on the market. At EC's price point ... there's Turner

But regardless ... I'm sure you'll see gains above stock, it's just a matter of how much.

[N54_e90]

Originally Posted by N52UNED

I can't say anything specially about EC tunes ... however that is a tread from 2011 so who knows if that tune has been updated between now and then. And any other reviews aren't since 2012. Also from the looks of it EC hasn't been active on the boards since 2013. And their Eurocharged Performance - Master N52 Tuning Thread has been closed. Which may or may not matter to you, but personally I like knowing my tuner is a contributor to the boards. Plus they don't have a single review published on their own website.

Frankly if I was putting down my hard earned money on a tune ... I'd want the latest tune available. Both AA and BPC have current updated tunes. Although I am a bit biased, BPC has the best N52 tune on the market. At EC's price point ... there's Turner

But regardless ... I'm sure you'll see gains above stock, it's just a matter of how much.

Idk they have a lot of positive reviews on google and facebook, the one im referring to is the one in toronto

im not sure about the specific details of the tune but ill call and ask.. is there a reason a tune would need updating? especially for a model from 2011?

bpc and aa tunes are in usd which makes it a lot more expensive for us Canadians

[N52UNED]

Originally Posted by crazythedon

Idk they have a lot of positive reviews on google and facebook, the one im referring to is the one in toronto

im not sure about the specific details of the tune but ill call and ask.. is there a reason a tune would need updating? especially for a model from 2011?

bpc and aa tunes are in usd which makes it a lot more expensive for us Canadians

Sounds like you're pretty sold on it, which is fine. I'm sure it'll be an improvement over stock. Give them a call or stop by their shop. See if you can get some dyno sheets on a n52 ... if they have any post them on the boards ... you'll definitely get some feedback.

Regarding an update ... the reasons are basic ... more power and to insure the company is improving it own products (unless you're cool with getting what you get and that being that ... which is fine too).

Regarding cost ... I totally understand.

Perhaps see if you can send a message to that member "Hooy" as he seems to have been on earlier this year ... see if he's had any issues that may have been a result of the tune (some tuners - even AA have thrown SES codes after the install).


Keep us up to date on what's going on ... there's a lot of Canadian's who are quite active on the boards so any information might be helpful in the future. Plus it's always good to hear of other tuner products for the N52's.

Cheers!

[Bob@BPC]

sounds like we need to do another group buy (maybe after black Friday)

[hassmaschine]

I wouldn't waste my money on a EC tune, personally.

[N54_e90]

Originally Posted by Bob@BPC

sounds like we need to do another group buy (maybe after black Friday)

hey Bob,

How many people would you need and what would the discounted price be? Also what would the gains be like for a 2011 323i Canadian spec with 3 stage manifold?

Thanks

[Ali-E90]

I have a Eurocharged tune on my 323. Very happy with it.

BUT you have to remember on these N52 engines, a tune alone won't give a significant power bump unless you're also doing other mods. Totally different from a turbo engine where a tune alone can give you 50-60+HP.

You can message me for info.

Also, from what I understand, 323 comes with the 3SIM, so just do your research before spending on a part you might already have. 323 is "underpowered" due to a lack of displacement (2.5L), and not due to the 3SIM (again, do your own research to confirm - check realoem perhaps).

Feel free to PM for more info.

[Ali-E90]

Originally Posted by N52UNED

I can't say anything specially about EC tunes ... however that is a tread from 2011 so who knows if that tune has been updated between now and then. And any other reviews aren't since 2012. Also from the looks of it EC hasn't been active on the boards since 2013. And their Eurocharged Performance - Master N52 Tuning Thread has been closed. Which may or may not matter to you, but personally I like knowing my tuner is a contributor to the boards. Plus they don't have a single review published on their own website.

Frankly if I was putting down my hard earned money on a tune ... I'd want the latest tune available. Both AA and BPC have current updated tunes. Although I am a bit biased, BPC has the best N52 tune on the market. At EC's price point ... there's Turner

But regardless ... I'm sure you'll see gains above stock, it's just a matter of how much.

Eurocharged Canada, in the GTA, does custom tunes from what I understand. Specifically tailored to your car and installed mods.

No issues with outdated tunes.

[Rickyshucks]

The 323i in Canada is a 2.5l n52b25 with a stage 3 manifold. The bore size on the ports at 82mm. The n52b30 stage 3 manifold has 85mm bore size. I installed a 323i manifold on my 3l 325i and noticed the bore size on it was smaller than my stock
325i manifold which may cause restriction.

I ended up purchasing a 3 stage manifold from a n52b30 and I will do a side by side comparison.

Originally Posted by Ali-323i

I have a Eurocharged tune on my 323. Very happy with it.

BUT you have to remember on these N52 engines, a tune alone won't give a significant power bump unless you're also doing other mods. Totally different from a turbo engine where a tune alone can give you 50-60+HP.

You can message me for info.

Also, from what I understand, 323 comes with the 3SIM, so just do your research before spending on a part you might already have. 323 is "underpowered" due to a lack of displacement (2.5L), and not due to the 3SIM (again, do your own research to confirm - check realoem perhaps).

Feel free to PM for more info.

[N54_e90]

Originally Posted by Ali-323i

I have a Eurocharged tune on my 323. Very happy with it.

BUT you have to remember on these N52 engines, a tune alone won't give a significant power bump unless you're also doing other mods. Totally different from a turbo engine where a tune alone can give you 50-60+HP.

You can message me for info.

Also, from what I understand, 323 comes with the 3SIM, so just do your research before spending on a part you might already have. 323 is "underpowered" due to a lack of displacement (2.5L), and not due to the 3SIM (again, do your own research to confirm - check realoem perhaps).

Feel free to PM for more info.

How was your experience with them/Randy? And what are the before/after results? Do they include dyno with their tune?

I have a resonator + muffler delete, n52 euro intake, rev silicone hose and light weight wheels. How much do you think their tune would yield?

Thanks man

[N54_e90]

Originally Posted by Rickyshucks

The 323i in Canada is a 2.5l n52b25 with a stage 3 manifold. The bore size on the ports at 82mm. The n52b30 stage 3 manifold has 85mm bore size. I installed a 323i manifold on my 3l 325i and noticed the bore size on it was smaller than my stock
325i manifold which may cause restriction.

I ended up purchasing a 3 stage manifold from a n52b30 and I will do a side by side comparison.

let us know

[Ali-E90]

Originally Posted by crazythedon

How was your experience with them/Randy? And what are the before/after results? Do they include dyno with their tune?

I have a resonator + muffler delete, n52 euro intake, rev silicone hose and light weight wheels. How much do you think their tune would yield?

Thanks man

Randy is a great guy. Tell him I sent you, he'll be sure to take care of you (though don't expect discounted pricing, I've asked in the past).

Power gains will be maybe 10% or so with no mods, but the power band will be smoother and better throttle response. Makes the power more usable even if peak power isn't a big jump.

[N54_e90]

Originally Posted by Ali-323i

Randy is a great guy. Tell him I sent you, he'll be sure to take care of you (though don't expect discounted pricing, I've asked in the past).

Power gains will be maybe 10% or so with no mods, but the power band will be smoother and better throttle response. Makes the power more usable even if peak power isn't a big jump.

How were your gains like with the tune? Not looking for any crazy gains, but a nice 20 HP would be nice. Also just looking to smoothen out the lower rpm acceleration as well. Also have you ever needed to go back to get it updated? Any issues at all? Thx

[Ali-E90]

Originally Posted by crazythedon

How were your gains like with the tune? Not looking for any crazy gains, but a nice 20 HP would be nice. Also just looking to smoothen out the lower rpm acceleration as well. Also have you ever needed to go back to get it updated? Any issues at all? Thx

Never dyno'd so don't know for sure. Bottom end power is better, peak power may not be too noticeable, but maybe 15-20HP at the crank, but no proof or numbers to back it up. It is worth it though, makes driving more fun.

Never had any issues.

[Rickyshucks]

Someone from this forum pointed me to a 3 stage im without the disa valves on ebay. It came off a 328i n52b30. I received it last week and without a doubt, the bore on the 323i canadian intake manifold is smaller vs an actual n52b30 3 stage. The rest is pretty much common sense that it is a more restricting 3 im if you put it on a n52b30
.

My e90 does perform sluggish with the 323i 3 stage as well but I do feel the disa valves operating in terms of a boost at certain rpms (valve opening I assume ).

Ive been wanting to swap it out but damn Toronto weather and I don't have a garage so might have to hold off on it for a while.

Regardless, a 323i n52b25 benefits with the tune however I feel people would be missing out on gains on the n52b30 with a n52b25 stage 3 manifold + tune

Originally Posted by crazythedon

let us know