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      11-16-2017, 02:36 PM   #1
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Unhappy What winters are you running?

Nokian WR-D4 all round £500 for 4 225/45/18`s
Very quiet, seem good in the wet but they don`t have any rim protection
Looking forward to some snow!
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      11-16-2017, 02:39 PM   #2
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Rural, ungritted lanes, icy, slushy leaves, frost lingering all day in the shade, and even a fair bit of snow - they've been brilliant.
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      11-16-2017, 02:44 PM   #3
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      11-16-2017, 04:17 PM   #4
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Got Continental wintercontact T830P on my new winter wheels, no previous experience of these tyres, but do get good reviews. Got a good deal on a full winter set from my local dealer, and using their “swap and store” service this time.

Had Goodyeear ultragrip on my previous F30 (wheels purchased from Mr Winter Wheels and swapped/stored by me, but couldn’t be @rsed this time). Couldn’t fault the Goodyear’s, but then again had X-drive and only 181 horses driving those. With 340 horses and rear wheel drive on the M140, will be a new experience this winter!! :-O


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      11-16-2017, 05:09 PM   #5
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Dunlop Winter Sport 4D. Bring on the winter.
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      11-16-2017, 05:34 PM   #6
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Sure-footed in snow and slush, fairly civilized and comfortable on dry pavement.
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      11-16-2017, 06:37 PM   #7
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Got Continental wintercontact T830P on my new winter wheels, no previous experience of these tyres, but do get good reviews. Got a good deal on a full winter set from my local dealer, and using their “swap and store” service this time.

Had Goodyeear ultragrip on my previous F30 (wheels purchased from Mr Winter Wheels and swapped/stored by me, but couldn’t be @rsed this time). Couldn’t fault the Goodyear’s, but then again had X-drive and only 181 horses driving those. With 340 horses and rear wheel drive on the M140, will be a new experience this winter!! :-O

That’s a nice looking set of winter wheels! Bet they’re a PITA to clean though!
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      11-16-2017, 06:53 PM   #8
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To be honest I now really don’t think there’s any need for full winter tyres in the UK, yes they’re the best in snow, but they’re actually quite dangerous at braking in warmer conditions, whereas an all season is nearly as good in snow but actually works properly when it’s warmer or dry!

Interesting new video on it here:



Also backed up in this Auto Bild test, the Continental all season actually braked and handled better in snow than the reference winter tyre!

https://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Articl...-Tyre-Test.htm
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      11-16-2017, 07:17 PM   #9
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I had Nokian on my last car and they were fantastic. Really tried to get it stuck by stopping on steep hills etc but they never failed.
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      11-17-2017, 01:59 AM   #11
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Never changed over to my Michelin Pilot Alpin last year, ran MPSS all over winter on the 140, was a few mornings they were a bit slippy but gingerly with the right foot and they were fine. Would only put them on now if snow is coming.....
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Never changed over to my Michelin Pilot Alpin last year, ran MPSS all over winter on the 140, was a few mornings they were a bit slippy but gingerly with the right foot and they were fine. Would only put them on now if snow is coming.....
this. But will change them when I go to Scotland for Christmas and NYE and Feb half term.
though I don't have MPSS yet.
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      11-17-2017, 02:36 AM   #13
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As mentioned elsewhere.... Vredstein Wintrac Extreme S, in standard 19" size but rarely gets cold enough to use them.

Used to have Nokian WR D3's in 18's on previous car and they were rated as all season but with the snow symbol so a proper winter tyre. Drove in snow, rain, cold & temps at 12 deg, they did exactly what they said they would, fantastic. Unfortunately they don't do 19" sizes to suit.

Vredstein really good but only if its cold enough consistently ... like 5deg max.
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I use Yokohama W-drive 225/40 x 18 and find them a good all round winter tyre
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      11-17-2017, 03:56 AM   #16
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That’s a nice looking set of winter wheels! Bet they’re a PITA to clean though!
lol They are what “Bilt Hamber Auto-Wheel” was created for!!

Cheers for the comment, and Yeah, will be a bit more effort, but these 388’s are ferric grey like the std 436M summers, so thought it would be worth it.
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One of the missed points as to whether you have winters or not is the fact they end up costing nothing if you keep the car say 3 years...
Possibly you would have gone through 2 sets in that time anyway
(unless you run then down until 1.5mm)

So by swapping in winter your extending the life of summer tyres.
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      11-17-2017, 05:38 AM   #18
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To be honest I now really don’t think there’s any need for full winter tyres in the UK, yes they’re the best in snow, but they’re actually quite dangerous at braking in warmer conditions, whereas an all season is nearly as good in snow but actually works properly when it’s warmer or dry!

Interesting new video on it here:



Also backed up in this Auto Bild test, the Continental all season actually braked and handled better in snow than the reference winter tyre!

https://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Articl...-Tyre-Test.htm

Agree (apart from maybe some parts up north).

I still think the Michelin cross climates are the only all season/winter tyre with an acceptable performance in the dry warmer weather if you like to push on.

https://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Articl...-Tyre-Test.htm
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      11-17-2017, 05:46 AM   #19
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To be honest I now really don’t think there’s any need for full winter tyres in the UK, yes they’re the best in snow, but they’re actually quite dangerous at braking in warmer conditions, whereas an all season is nearly as good in snow but actually works properly when it’s warmer or dry!

Interesting new video on it here:



Also backed up in this Auto Bild test, the Continental all season actually braked and handled better in snow than the reference winter tyre!

https://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Articl...-Tyre-Test.htm

Agree (apart from maybe some parts up north).

I still think the Michelin cross climates are the only all season/winter tyre with an acceptable performance in the dry warmer weather if you like to push on.

https://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Articl...-Tyre-Test.htm
The Michelins are definitely the ones to get if you want one set of all season tyres for all year round. But for those who switch tyres for winter I think traditional all seasons would be better than winter tyres.
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Continental Winter Contact TS850P
+1. Had these last winter - still 7mm left on them. Excellent tyre - running these as 225/45/18 on 405Ms. In some ways better than the Goodyear summer 19s I run.
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Vredstein Wintrac Extreme S.

Been using this brand for 5 years.
+ 1, on Rbrown's recommendation, they are top tyres..
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To be honest I now really don’t think there’s any need for full winter tyres in the UK, yes they’re the best in snow, but they’re actually quite dangerous at braking in warmer conditions, whereas an all season is nearly as good in snow but actually works properly when it’s warmer or dry
Says the man who lives in Norfolk. I live on the edge of the Peaks and would not get off my road in summers.

All seasons are ok, on an SUV, but I didn't buy a supposed drivers car, with a pretty powerful engine to be driving round during the summer on All Season tyres.
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