[1cleanm6]

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[Sneeze]

What kind of Evo? I'm sure it's not the IX MR, can't beat it with just SSTT...

[BuLoOoSki]

nice kill but i doubt that it was a modded EVO MR or the new IX, it must have been an old evo with just a loud exhaust and BOV. The EVO MR stock is fast! with you having four passengers and him being by himself, i dont really know wat to say...must have been a mitsubishi lancer Rally Edition lool

[A418t81]

An MR is no faster than a regular Evo. The fastest one is the RS.

[amuzement]

Maybe it was an Evo X. You wouldn't be able to beat an IX.

[hotrod182]

I watched an Evo run at Fontana last year. It couldn't do better than 13.5 in the qtr mile. Some people said it wasn't stock. A stock STI couldn't get out of the 14's. The track is that bad, (almost 90F, 1100Ft Alt, and uphill). I ran 13.0x with the JB2.

[Digital.James]

Ive raced two Evos, both 12 second quarter mile runners. One was a MR, other a regular old 8. Walked both, not by much but about two car lengths. Both couldnt believe it. Raced a 12 second STI too, walked him too.

[hotrod182]

Originally Posted by Digital.James

Ive raced two Evos, both 12 second quarter mile runners. One was a MR, other a regular old 8. Walked both, not by much but about two car lengths. Both couldnt believe it. Raced a 12 second STI too, walked him too.

It is so fun! You know when I was at Famosa in Feb, there was they gray Evo with meth injection, etc. He said he won the battle of the imports there recently. I know it is a 11 second car, but that day, I don't think he ran below a 12.06. I think I ran a 12.2x that day. A few weeks later I installed the H pill (JB2HR), and came back and ran a 12.13. So the Evo was heavily modified, and we were still only a couple tenths apart. Besides tune/DR/fuel, my car was otherwise stock down to the air filter. So it is not surprising you can give most Evos a good run, if not beat them. The Evo did have good HP obviously. His trap was 116.97 when he ran the 12.06. But again, I think it was pretty heavily modded with the meth injection, etc, etc. Maybe someone on board knows the quickest ET that car is capable of?

[A418t81]

An Evo 9 on meth with basic bolt-ons should be a 120 mph trapping car if its running right. May not be a huge ET difference vs an auto tuned 335 with DRs, but it would eat you alive from a roll to ~130 mph or so.

[5soko]

being as i own a 07 STI modded, off a roll i can walk it with my e92 335i SSTT. came off a evo MR to my STI.
non the less good run, im sure he is scratching his head. lol

[Digital.James]

I used to own a STI too. It was a fast car, but I dont think the power band is as meaty in the middle of the powerband like the 335, exactly where you want it when you want to race.

[bdkevoIX]

Originally Posted by Boosted335

Hey there folks me my gf my buddy and his gf were headed to the beach today and i ran into an evo. This would be the real comparison as to see how my sstt made my car faster. Anyways we raced from about 40-120 and i put about a car and a half two cars(my friend said i wasnt looking). Member though he was alone and i had 4 people in my car!!. The evo seemed modded i can hear the turbos pretty loaded. However i am not sure we didnt get a chance to talk to him he exited after that. However i can not wait to get my JB2HR.. I can just imagine what that will do.

My buddy who was in the car owns a e46 m3 and he said wow!. Ive raced him when i was stock and it was even and im pretty sure il pull a cars on him now.

Evos' are pretty loud to begin with so you can't determine how modded it was based on its sound level. But I'm not surprised if you beat a lightly modded evo with your sstt. Also, was it an VIII or IX? that makes a big difference.

Maybe it was an Evo X. You wouldn't be able to beat an IX.

Stock IX dynos 250-260whp on most dynojets.
Very simple bolt ons (TBE, MBC, filter, tune) you are at 330-340whp (115mph trap). If its not tuned, you can certainly beat it with lightly modded 335i.

It is so fun! You know when I was at Famosa in Feb, there was they gray Evo with meth injection, etc. He said he won the battle of the imports there recently. I know it is a 11 second car, but that day, I don't think he ran below a 12.06. I think I ran a 12.2x that day. A few weeks later I installed the H pill (JB2HR), and came back and ran a 12.13. So the Evo was heavily modified, and we were still only a couple tenths apart. Besides tune/DR/fuel, my car was otherwise stock down to the air filter. So it is not surprising you can give most Evos a good run, if not beat them. The Evo did have good HP obviously. His trap was 116.97 when he ran the 12.06. But again, I think it was pretty heavily modded with the meth injection, etc, etc. Maybe someone on board knows the quickest ET that car is capable of?

high 11, low 12 evos aren't considered "highly modded". That kind of ET can be achieved with the following

For VIII- TBE, MBC, filter, tune, cams
For IX - TBE, MBC, filter, tune

Meth injection doesn't make it highly modded. Acutally I don't really like meth injection as you can't guarantee each cylinder gets exactly same amount of meth as you would with fuel injectors.

I used to own a STI too. It was a fast car, but I dont think the power band is as meaty in the middle of the powerband like the 335, exactly where you want it when you want to race.

There's alot of bolt-on evos out there which makes about same or bit less than tuned 335i's. It comes down to drivers IMO. Also, I think gearing in 335i makes it more ideal for freeway racing.

I've tested gearing in my friend's 335i yesterday and here's the rough comparison between 335i and evo IX MR gearing.

335i

2nd gear upto ~70mph
3rd gear upto ~100mph
4th gear upto ~130mph
5th gear upto ~?? havent' tested, would've been tooooo fast
6th gear upto ~?? havent' tested, probably would've made no difference than 5th
Evo IX MR

2nd gear upto ~60mph
3rd gear upto ~90mph
4th gear upto ~120mph
5th gear upto ~145mph
6th gear upto ~?? never tested
I haven't logged this or anything but this is my rough impression of the gear ratios.

[Dan335i]

I had two Evo,s before my 07 335i coupe.Both were modded.Without getting into it a stock 335 against a stock IX would be a drivers race.I have driven a new Evo X and the 335 would definetely beat it in a 0-60 and 1/4 mile race.A modded Evo is a different story.BTW bdKevoIX you left out the fuel pump in the Evo modding upgrades. LOL

[5soko]

i guess this isnt a good time to mention i have already beaten the new evo X.

[Car Enthusiast]

I have a lot of respect for Evo's and I think the discussion in here is pretty interesting. The one thing I havent seen mentioned is that the Evo weighs about 300 pounds less than our cars. Just comparing whp based on mods doesn't tell the whole story.

I was with my friend when he raced his 6spd 335 w/SSTT vs. another friend who has an Evo VIII with TBE and mbc (who runs 13.0-13.1 1/4 mile times) and it was almost dead even in the roll races. The result after several tries was that the Evo pulled a 1/2 car length early on and then the 335 started to even up and pull a 1/2 car length ahead at higher speeds (+110 mph). Racing from a dead stop wouldn't be pretty since the Evo would easily pull 1 1/2 car lengths off the line.

[darkphantom]

Originally Posted by 5soko335i

i guess this isnt a good time to mention i have already beaten the new evo X.

You what?? are you modded?

and do you know if the evo x had the DCT? or was it running the 5-spd MT?

[hotrod2448]

Bench racing FTW!

[Dan335i]

Originally Posted by darkphantom

You what?? are you modded?

and do you know if the evo x had the DCT? or was it running the 5-spd MT?

Only the MR X will have the DCT.

[honglyunz2]

Originally Posted by Dan335i

BTW bdKevoIX you left out the fuel pump in the Evo modding upgrades. LOL

Good point! haha forgot about the fuel pump

-bdkevoix

[Drace1]

Hey BOOSTED335 and other BMW owners. Just wanted to let you BOOSTED335 and all the others here that I am the one that got raced on the 10 freeway next to the Lincoln exit the other day. Just to clear things up. I am currently running TBE / MBC / Intake / Fuel Pump / With no Tune. Tune was in the works but decided to save the cash and buy the 135i.

I'm sorry but i have to call Bull Shit on your kill story. We ran from 55mph or so and i honked three times. He jumped me before the third beep and he ended up about a bumper ahead of me.

Be it that my car is running with an upgraded fuel pump and the car already runs pig rich from factory pretty sure I wouldve taken him if the race was started at the same time and without the Pump. Not hating on Bimmers at all and I'm not biased. I'm currently awaiting delivery on my 135i in two days. Just pretty sure he did not want to lose in front of the girl he had next to him, hence the jump.

Thanks

[hotrod182]

Are we talking about the brand new 291HP Evo? I thought the new Evo was already understood to be slower than the 335i, especially on a roll-on. I lined up next to a white one yesterday, he wouldn't bite though.

8/07 Road And Track.
335i Coupe. 0-60mph 4.8 seconds, 0-100 11.9 secs, 1/4 mile 13.4 @ 105.1

3/08 Road And Track.
Lancer Evo: 0-60mph 4.9 seconds, 0-100 13.3 secs 1/4 mile 13.6 @ 100.9

[Driver72]

Raced a modded (saw an aftermarket exhaust) STI from a dig to 110 mph.
I put 3+ CL's on him with v2 only.

Stock EVO's/STI's trap only in the 101-103 mph range

It takes like 20 psi boost for EVO/STI to trap 108+ mph
And around 22-24 psi boost with intake, DP, exhaust to trap in the 112 mph range.

Your "average" mildly tuned (basic chip, intake, exhaust) EVO/STI seems to trap in the 108 mph range. Right where a SSTT 335i runs.

If you beat that EVO by 2 CL's and you had 4 people in your car and he only had 1, he probably wasn't tuned at all.