PROcede V3 PnP vs Helix Attache vs BMS JB2X Dyno Showdown

e90AW335i · 05-24-2008, 06:28 PM

NOTE TO ALL READERS:

All dyno runs were done on 93 octane gas from Shell. Both PROcedes were installed by dustin and my tunes were installed by yours truely....

All other important information is included in the following paragraghs....

Here are the results of the dyno showdown..... Enjoy

Helix Attache (~14.5psi):

There was one limp mode on the very last run and it is obvious by the graphs. This car runs strong but has been having a problem in the top of 4th gear every time. Luckily we got two good pulls out of it today before we got the limp mode. Helix is working with me directly to fix this problem, the customer support has been amazing....

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PROcede V3 (Low/High Boost):

I honestly think that something was wrong with Ben's PROcede today. The numbers that it put down just weren't right even though the boost was (~12psi/~15psi respectively).

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PROcede V3 (low boost map):

Sam's car had a great showing for only running ~12psi and us being unable to switch the maps. Whoever said two heads were better than one weren't thinking about us two....

We tried to load the Stage 1 map for high boost and open element air filter but it just didn't work. We will be going back next saturday with his car and mine to re-dyno. He will be running the high boost map for people with open element air filters and I will be putting down a stock baseline for all of us to use. Same dyno, different day but still close enough....

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BMS JB2X (~14-15psi):

(drum roll)... The best performer of the day was the BMS JB2X.

This was unexpected by all of us since I am currently the Helix Attache and Sam and Ben run the PROcede V3. Both of these tunes are much more aggressive and put down higher numbers than the BMS JB2X (according to tuner dynos). Basically the way it worked was that I dynoed with the Helix Attache and then while Sam and Ben dynoed, I uninstalled the Attache and installed the JB2X. All in all it was about 25 min or so. I then did some adaptation runs with JB2(.5)HR and made sure it was ready to dyno. After the second run I turned it up a little bit, and then a little bit more on the final run.

The dyno reads like this:

Dynorun 4 and 5: JB2(.5)HR
Dyno run 6: JB2(.75)HR
Dyno run 7 JB2HR

Keep in mind I did no adaptation between run 5 to 6 and 6 to 7. I just turned up the X and let her rip......

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e90AW335i · 05-24-2008, 06:43 PM

Also, I can put the AFR graphs up as well. I also want to post up the graph by RPM so it is more useful for everyone.

All in all it was a fun ass day out there. As I stated earlier Sam and I will be going again next week. He will be dynoing the high boost/open filter map on the PROcede and I will be dynoing a STOCK car for a baseline.

I have a feeling this dyno reads VERY low....

Hunter399 · 05-24-2008, 06:43 PM

very impressive

Thanks for sharing!

e90AW335i · 05-24-2008, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by hunter399

very impressive

Thanks for sharing!

Pansy....

You should have been there man, it was a blast...

You in for next time?

kitw · 05-24-2008, 06:46 PM

wow that dyno does read low. What's weird are the torque figures are sort of low but the HP figures are REALLY low.

e90AW335i · 05-24-2008, 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kitw

wow that dyno does read low. What's weird are the torque figures are sort of low but the HP figures are REALLY low.

Yep. As I stated earlier I will be going back for a stock baseline which will help gauge how bad it really is....

kitw · 05-24-2008, 06:50 PM

BTW, it'd be really helpful if you could show the graphs with RPM. If you can't, just email me the .drf files and I'll switch them into the mode to display RPM. PM me for email address.

uhcoug2011 · 05-24-2008, 06:50 PM

Great post Kyle...I look forward to next Saturday!

e90AW335i · 05-24-2008, 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kitw

BTW, it'd be really helpful if you could show the graphs with RPM. If you can't, just email me the .drf files and I'll switch them into the mode to display RPM. PM me for email address.

I got it, just give a couple min I gotta grub. I worked on Sam's and Ben's cars all day before the dyno....

e90AW335i · 05-24-2008, 06:59 PM

About to grub right now (sonic...

)

I will update with new graphs and with AFRs

hun77777 · 05-24-2008, 07:04 PM

wow disapointment on v3

lawdude · 05-24-2008, 07:07 PM

Does procede user have a map switch or is he changing maps via laptop?

uhcoug2011 · 05-24-2008, 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lawdude

Does procede user have a map switch or is he changing maps via laptop?

If you are referring to myself I did have a mapswitch with me however regardless of what I pushed the boost was not passing 11.5-12 psi.

I forgot to bring my laptop charger so my laptop was dead and I couldn't manually change the maps either

lawdude · 05-24-2008, 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by uhcoug2011

If you are referring to myself I did have a mapswitch with me however regardless of what I pushed the boost was not passing 11.5-12 psi.

I forgot to bring my laptop charger so my laptop was dead and I couldn't manually change the maps either

Verify which map you are running. You can find out how HERE.

RiXst3r · 05-24-2008, 07:16 PM

dang, those jb2x graphs are smooooooooth.... which solenoid bypass method did you use? single, or dual with addon vacuum tube?

BES335xi · 05-24-2008, 07:18 PM

wow none of them show any real power in hp.

e90AW335i · 05-24-2008, 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RiXst3r

dang, those jb2x graphs are smooooooooth.... which solenoid bypass method did you use? single, or dual with addon vacuum tube?

Old setup.... (single)

e90AW335i · 05-24-2008, 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BES335xi

wow none of them show any real power in hp.

We dont know the baseline HP so isn't that kind of hard to determine....

RiXst3r · 05-24-2008, 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BES335xi

wow none of them show any real power in hp.

must be a low reading dyno... somebody should have ran stock so we could see... my guess is a stock car would show 255 on this dyno

e90AW335i · 05-24-2008, 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RiXst3r

must be a low reading dyno... somebody should have ran stock so we could see... my guess is a stock car would show 255 on this dyno

I will be doing this next saturday....

e90AW335i · 05-24-2008, 07:32 PM

*edited First Post With New Graphs*

OpenFlash · 05-24-2008, 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by e90AW335i

*edited First Post With New Graphs*

Good job organizing the dyno day.

Quick question: I don't know anything about Ben's car. Was he the guy that was having problems running some aftermarket BOV? Was it ever removed?

Uhcoug2011's results look right in line with the map he was running. I'm sure we'll get the full power map activated in time for the next dyno day

Cheers,
shiv

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e90AW335i Major General 137 Rep 6,608 Posts Drives: e90 335i Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: ...... iTrader: (4)	PROcede V3 PnP vs Helix Attache vs BMS JB2X Dyno Showdown NOTE TO ALL READERS: All dyno runs were done on 93 octane gas from Shell. Both PROcedes were installed by dustin and my tunes were installed by yours truely.... All other important information is included in the following paragraghs.... Here are the results of the dyno showdown..... Enjoy Helix Attache (~14.5psi): There was one limp mode on the very last run and it is obvious by the graphs. This car runs strong but has been having a problem in the top of 4th gear every time. Luckily we got two good pulls out of it today before we got the limp mode. Helix is working with me directly to fix this problem, the customer support has been amazing.... PROcede V3 (Low/High Boost): I honestly think that something was wrong with Ben's PROcede today. The numbers that it put down just weren't right even though the boost was (~12psi/~15psi respectively). PROcede V3 (low boost map): Sam's car had a great showing for only running ~12psi and us being unable to switch the maps. Whoever said two heads were better than one weren't thinking about us two.... We tried to load the Stage 1 map for high boost and open element air filter but it just didn't work. We will be going back next saturday with his car and mine to re-dyno. He will be running the high boost map for people with open element air filters and I will be putting down a stock baseline for all of us to use. Same dyno, different day but still close enough.... BMS JB2X (~14-15psi): (drum roll)... The best performer of the day was the BMS JB2X. This was unexpected by all of us since I am currently the Helix Attache and Sam and Ben run the PROcede V3. Both of these tunes are much more aggressive and put down higher numbers than the BMS JB2X (according to tuner dynos). Basically the way it worked was that I dynoed with the Helix Attache and then while Sam and Ben dynoed, I uninstalled the Attache and installed the JB2X. All in all it was about 25 min or so. I then did some adaptation runs with JB2(.5)HR and made sure it was ready to dyno. After the second run I turned it up a little bit, and then a little bit more on the final run. The dyno reads like this: Dynorun 4 and 5: JB2(.5)HR Dyno run 6: JB2(.75)HR Dyno run 7 JB2HR Keep in mind I did no adaptation between run 5 to 6 and 6 to 7. I just turned up the X and let her rip...... Last edited by e90AW335i; 05-24-2008 at 07:31 PM..
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kitw Colonel 471 Rep 2,991 Posts Drives: F91 M8, 991.2 GT3 Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Bay Area, CA iTrader: (20)	BTW, it'd be really helpful if you could show the graphs with RPM. If you can't, just email me the .drf files and I'll switch them into the mode to display RPM. PM me for email address.
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