Part 2: PROcede V3 PnP vs Helix Attache vs BMS JB2X Dyno Showdown

e90AW335i · 05-31-2008, 09:26 AM

UPDATE: Results are below. I dynoed JB2X and V3, uhcoug2011 dynoed V3 and a stock baseline. Ben and Hunter's cars are still up there and I do not have the files. They will post their results on their own. All maps used for the V3 are 29.2 and v81 compatible.

Also, I am not posting the Helix dyno against these because the cooling today was MUCH MUCH better, as you can see by the results....

Okay so it is not really part 2 since I am not re-dynoing the Helix Attache, or BMS JB2X today but three cars will be dynoing with the PROcede high boost map on the same dyno we used last time.

A couple of things to keep in mind: Today is going to be about 10 degrees cooler, and shiv will be there to make little "tweaks" to two of the cars.

The cars participating are as follows:

uhcoug2011:

2007 e90 BMW 335i
Steptronic
BMS filter kit
PROcede V3 PnP (High Boost Map)
NOTE: Sam will be running a generic map with no tuning done by Shiv.

Hunter399:

2008 e92 BMW 335i (v81 ECU)
Steptronic
BMS filter kit
RPi Intercooler
Borla Catback Exhaust
PROcede V3 PnP (High Boost Map)
NOTE: Hunter will have tuning done by Shiv.

Nakashima:

2008 e92 BMW 335i
6MT
BMS filter kit
PROcede V3 PnP (High Boost Map)
NOTE: Ben will have tuning done by Shiv.

e90AW335i:

2008 e90 BMW 335i
Steptronic
Dual K&N Cone Filters
NO TUNE (stock baseline)

5soko · 05-31-2008, 09:30 AM

do any have 29.2? either way gonna be nice results.

good luck

Calgary Agent · 05-31-2008, 09:30 AM

Kyle .... Let me get this straight. You're in Houston, and Shiv has personally travelled from CA to "tune" the V3 cars for today's dyno? Or is he just coincidentally in the area and available to do a few tweaks?

e90AW335i · 05-31-2008, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Calgary Agent

Kyle .... Let me get this straight. You're in Houston, and Shiv has personally travelled from CA to "tune" the V3 cars for today's dyno? Or is he just coincidentally in the area and available to do a few tweaks?

Hunters car is a new ECU version. I will update the first post.....

Hunter399 · 05-31-2008, 09:38 AM

Going to be a good time

I will bring my video camera

e90AW335i · 05-31-2008, 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hunter399

Going to be a good time

I will bring my video camera

Sound good man. My car is gonna put down some huge numbers.....

RiXst3r · 05-31-2008, 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Calgary Agent

Kyle .... Let me get this straight. You're in Houston, and Shiv has personally travelled from CA to "tune" the V3 cars for today's dyno? Or is he just coincidentally in the area and available to do a few tweaks?

shiv is coming to texas??????

Hunter399 · 05-31-2008, 09:59 AM

Shiv IS in texas

Digital.James · 05-31-2008, 10:00 AM

Im guessing by the big bold words that say note that Shiv is going to be in Texas.

Hunter399 · 05-31-2008, 10:04 AM

hahah...

Hunter399 · 05-31-2008, 10:04 AM

If any local houston members want to come out and get a Procede V3 PNP Please send me a pm

kptaylor · 05-31-2008, 10:07 AM

Cool, this is more of what I want to see. Now if everyone can run regular old pump gas it'd be more realistic to average people. Not a lot of mods and pump gas more equals real world scenarios...

MarinoB · 05-31-2008, 10:29 AM

cant wait to see what the v3 does on the v81...tired of waiting and thinking about what route to go...

RiXst3r · 05-31-2008, 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hunter399

Shiv IS in texas

did your v81 car lure him there?

Nikolas · 05-31-2008, 12:31 PM

It would be interesting to get some non tweaked numbers on the procede to see numbers for "off the self" as opposed to a custom tune. I remember on my WRX there was quite a difference between the two.

tek818 · 05-31-2008, 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RiXst3r

did your v81 car lure him there?

that and a wad of cash I bet :P

e90AW335i · 05-31-2008, 04:11 PM

Okay first off this will probably be the best comparison that you will see in a long time. The baseline dyno was done on Sam's car and he also did V3 as well. We ran JB2X and V3 on my car....

Here are the results:

uhcoug2011 (Stock vs V3):

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uhcoug2011 (all V3 runs, high and low boost):

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e90AW335i (Stock vs V3):

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e90aw335i (all V3):

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e90AW335i (stock vs JB2X):

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e90aw335i (all JB2X):

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e90aw335i (v3 vs JB2X): Green is JB2X, Blue is V3

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Tobias1980 · 05-31-2008, 04:29 PM

Wow! Thanks for your efforts! My first question: why go for V3 when JBX delivers exactly the same with the DME still controlling things?

NPDAN · 05-31-2008, 04:31 PM

Schweeeeet!!!!!!

M3to335 · 05-31-2008, 04:33 PM

e90AW335i I know Im beating a dead horse here, but hopefully someone in Texas can help.

Since folks are getting V3 there, does ANYONE have catless downpipes? I really really really want to know if anyone can get O2 readiness with the new V3 maps.

e90AW335i · 05-31-2008, 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tobias1980

Wow! Thanks for your efforts! My first question: why go for V3 when JBX delivers exactly the same with the DME still controlling things?

That is different depending on who you ask. It provides a little less torque, but more hp up top as you can see.....

As I stated, you will get different answers depending on who you ask. You see the numbers, you just have to decide which one is more important low end torque, or hp up top....

e90AW335i · 05-31-2008, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by M3to335

e90AW335i I know Im beating a dead horse here, but hopefully someone in Texas can help.

Since folks are getting V3 there, does ANYONE have catless downpipes? I really really really want to know if anyone can get O2 readiness with the new V3 maps.

To be honest with you I doubt anyone can help with that situation. Also, keep in mind it is looking more and more illegal to help someone pass emissions with catless exhaust....

Think about that when trying to get responses from tuners....

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e90AW335i Major General 137 Rep 6,608 Posts Drives: e90 335i Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: ...... iTrader: (4)	Part 2: PROcede V3 PnP vs Helix Attache vs BMS JB2X Dyno Showdown UPDATE: Results are below. I dynoed JB2X and V3, uhcoug2011 dynoed V3 and a stock baseline. Ben and Hunter's cars are still up there and I do not have the files. They will post their results on their own. All maps used for the V3 are 29.2 and v81 compatible. Also, I am not posting the Helix dyno against these because the cooling today was MUCH MUCH better, as you can see by the results.... Okay so it is not really part 2 since I am not re-dynoing the Helix Attache, or BMS JB2X today but three cars will be dynoing with the PROcede high boost map on the same dyno we used last time. A couple of things to keep in mind: Today is going to be about 10 degrees cooler, and shiv will be there to make little "tweaks" to two of the cars. The cars participating are as follows: uhcoug2011: 2007 e90 BMW 335i Steptronic BMS filter kit PROcede V3 PnP (High Boost Map) NOTE: Sam will be running a generic map with no tuning done by Shiv. Hunter399: 2008 e92 BMW 335i (v81 ECU) Steptronic BMS filter kit RPi Intercooler Borla Catback Exhaust PROcede V3 PnP (High Boost Map) NOTE: Hunter will have tuning done by Shiv. Nakashima: 2008 e92 BMW 335i 6MT BMS filter kit PROcede V3 PnP (High Boost Map) NOTE: Ben will have tuning done by Shiv. e90AW335i: 2008 e90 BMW 335i Steptronic Dual K&N Cone Filters NO TUNE (stock baseline) __________________ I install all tunes, intakes, o2 simms, and most cosmetic mods. PM me for a quote. Last edited by e90AW335i; 05-31-2008 at 04:26 PM..
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kptaylor First Lieutenant 6 Rep 322 Posts Drives: '07 335i Coupe Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: PHX, AZ iTrader: (0)	Cool, this is more of what I want to see. Now if everyone can run regular old pump gas it'd be more realistic to average people. Not a lot of mods and pump gas more equals real world scenarios...
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MarinoB Captain 282 Rep 931 Posts Drives: '17 F80 M3 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Queens, NY iTrader: (6)	cant wait to see what the v3 does on the v81...tired of waiting and thinking about what route to go...
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Nikolas Colonel 313 Rep 2,576 Posts Drives: 996 TT Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Sierra Mountains iTrader: (0)	It would be interesting to get some non tweaked numbers on the procede to see numbers for "off the self" as opposed to a custom tune. I remember on my WRX there was quite a difference between the two.
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e90AW335i Major General 137 Rep 6,608 Posts Drives: e90 335i Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: ...... iTrader: (4)	Okay first off this will probably be the best comparison that you will see in a long time. The baseline dyno was done on Sam's car and he also did V3 as well. We ran JB2X and V3 on my car.... Here are the results: uhcoug2011 (Stock vs V3): uhcoug2011 (all V3 runs, high and low boost): e90AW335i (Stock vs V3): e90aw335i (all V3): e90AW335i (stock vs JB2X): e90aw335i (all JB2X): e90aw335i (v3 vs JB2X): Green is JB2X, Blue is V3 __________________ I install all tunes, intakes, o2 simms, and most cosmetic mods. PM me for a quote.
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Tobias1980 Read the manual please, just do it before asking! 11 Rep 397 Posts Drives: F31 328i, F55 Cooper Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Sweden iTrader: (0)	Wow! Thanks for your efforts! My first question: why go for V3 when JBX delivers exactly the same with the DME still controlling things?
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M3to335 Whats that smell? 145 Rep 1,790 Posts Drives: Bimmers, duh Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: NC iTrader: (6)	e90AW335i I know Im beating a dead horse here, but hopefully someone in Texas can help. Since folks are getting V3 there, does ANYONE have catless downpipes? I really really really want to know if anyone can get O2 readiness with the new V3 maps.
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