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      02-13-2018, 04:56 PM   #1
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New M5 10.9 sec 1/4 mile!

For all you BMW naysayers out there, the new m5 looks like a return to past glory: https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...m5-test-review

Not only are the performance numbers staggering, but they have also brought back the steering feel and feedback.

Building on this M momentum, I'm also looking forward to the M2 Competition which should be officially announced this spring.
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0-60 MPH in 2.8 seconds
1/4 mile in 10.9 seconds at 129 MPH

Those are very respectable times. I can't wait to see what the Competition Package brings to the table.
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That's beyond respectable, a 3.6-4.0 sec 0-60 is respectable, 2.8 is ridiculous! That's 911 Turbo S territory..
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That's beyond respectable, a 3.6-4.0 sec 0-60 is respectable, 2.8 is ridiculous! That's 911 Turbo S territory..
It's all subjective to what you're used to seeing. There are plenty of F8x M3s on stock turbos that are running 10.9 seconds or faster on RWD and regular street tires. 135i and 335i N54s are also no stranger to 10 second ETs, but with upgraded turbos.

5-cylinder RS3s are running 10.5 seconds without much effort either. So yes, personally, I find the times respectable, especially considering that's it's bone stock. I'll be really impressed once we start seeing Competition Pack numbers, and Stage 1/2 tuned numbers.
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It's all subjective to what you're used to seeing. There are plenty of F8x M3s on stock turbos that are running 10.9 seconds or faster on RWD and regular street tires. 135i and 335i N54s are also no stranger to 10 second ETs, but with upgraded turbos.

5-cylinder RS3s are running 10.5 seconds without much effort either. So yes, personally, I find the times respectable, especially considering that's it's bone stock. I'll be really impressed once we start seeing Competition Pack numbers, and Stage 1/2 tuned numbers.
all of which are way lighter and modified. This car is STOCK.
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all of which are way lighter and modified. This car is STOCK.
Yup, I'm well aware that it's bone stock, which I mentioned in the post you quoted

I'm sure if I was driving a slow BMW, and haven't been watching 1320Video and TRC videos on YouTube then I would be extremely impressed.
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129 trap is absurd. Comp pack will certainly surpass 130.
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0-60 MPH in 2.8 seconds
1/4 mile in 10.9 seconds at 129 MPH

THESE numbers are mind-blowing, I need to get into M5
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129 mph trap speed is just crazy .
How can it be that much ? Even tuned E63S barely can go that .
Rentech one with 770HP goes only 130 ??? Am I missing something :/ ?
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129 mph trap speed is just crazy .
How can it be that much ? Even tuned E63S barely can go that .
Rentech one with 770HP goes only 130 ??? Am I missing something :/ ?
I wonder if it's related to the fact that the M5 becomes RWD only after a certain speed. No AWD loss and 600HP. Does the Mercedes do the same?
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129 mph trap speed is just crazy .
How can it be that much ? Even tuned E63S barely can go that .
Rentech one with 770HP goes only 130 ??? Am I missing something :/ ?
I wonder if it's related to the fact that the M5 becomes RWD only after a certain speed. No AWD loss and 600HP. Does the Mercedes do the same?
I have no idea man, it could be . Can't wait for the Competition Package . That thing will be a rocket .
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I wonder if it's related to the fact that the M5 becomes RWD only after a certain speed. No AWD loss and 600HP. Does the Mercedes do the same?
Or! There's more than 600 ponies under the bonnet!
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Or! There's more than 600 ponies under the bonnet!
Been proven that MB and BMW underrate the engines quite a bit.
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129 mph trap speed is just crazy .
How can it be that much ? Even tuned E63S barely can go that .
Rentech one with 770HP goes only 130 ??? Am I missing something :/ ?
Car and driver always does a correction for temps , which is an inaccurate process on modern turbos that already correct boost for conditions ( .ie. power doesn't change over a wide margin ) . Actual measured trap was likely 127, which is what other mags have gotten . The delta between it and the Benz is due to the F90 weighing nearly 300 pounds less . I'm a little disappointed in the skid pad performance of the F90 being worse than the Benz .98 vs 1.0 but glad the car " feels" more balanced on the street than before .
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Skid pad is important, but a small piece of the handling pie. Turn in, transient response, etc etc makes the package. Actual track tests will tell the tale. Hopefully, same day shootouts!
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gmd2003, .98g is very good. That's what my X5M does.
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gmd2003, .98g is very good. That's what my X5M does.
Owning a GT350R that's does 1.1 def raises expectations lol . I did expect it to do better than the E63S AND any SUV though given the lighter weight . In general skid pad numbers do correlate to track performance but I agree not necessarily to normal driving enjoyment/ feedback , character , steering feel etc .
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530 xdrive does 1.05 according to fastest laps. Suprised m5 doesn't best that.
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530 xdrive does 1.05 according to fastest laps. Suprised m5 doesn't best that.
I wouldn't use a wiki page as a resource . I'm referencing car and drivers test numbers on a 300 foot skid pad I.e constant not peak G's obtained . I promise you a 530 doesn't come close in the same test . Just checked it does .91 G's .
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129 mph trap speed is just crazy .
How can it be that much ? Even tuned E63S barely can go that .
Rentech one with 770HP goes only 130 ??? Am I missing something :/ ?
Car and driver always does a correction for temps , which is an inaccurate process on modern turbos that already correct boost for conditions ( .ie. power doesn't change over a wide margin ) . Actual measured trap was likely 127, which is what other mags have gotten . The delta between it and the Benz is due to the F90 weighing nearly 300 pounds less . I'm a little disappointed in the skid pad performance of the F90 being worse than the Benz .98 vs 1.0 but glad the car " feels" more balanced on the street than before .
What publications are you referring to discussing a 127 trap? Both car and driver and road and track measure at 2.8 to 60, 1/4 mile in 10.9 with a 129 trap. I'm not familiar with any other instrumented tests.
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