PROcede V3 + Terry's O2 simms

dzenno · 06-07-2008, 12:12 PM

Anyone know whether O2 simms from Terry can be used with V3 in any way, plugged into the unit or directly into the ecu harnesses...

OpenFlash · 06-07-2008, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by dzenno

Anyone know whether O2 simms from Terry can be used with V3 in any way, plugged into the unit or directly into the ecu harnesses...

Yes you can use them if you already have them. Or you can spend $2 at your local radioshack and install the 3 resistors necessary (instructions coming soon) to do the same job.

Shiv

dzenno · 06-07-2008, 01:26 PM

Thanks Shiv. If u dont mind just adding a sentence or two on what to do with the existing simms that would be awesome...

OpenFlash · 06-07-2008, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by dzenno

Thanks Shiv. If u dont mind just adding a sentence or two on what to do with the existing simms that would be awesome...

Sell them I guess. Less clutter in the ECU bay the better

brusso · 06-07-2008, 10:46 PM

I thought the v3 has o2 sims for the catless down pipes...... I'm running v3 with catless dp's and no check eng lights. Am I missing something ?

Shiv ?

OpenFlash · 06-07-2008, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by brusso

I thought the v3 has o2 sims for the catless down pipes...... I'm running v3 with catless dp's and no check eng lights. Am I missing something ?

Shiv ?

The first dozen or so v3 PnP kits we've sold had a built in o2 sim. But due to legal concerns, we have removed it. Those who chose to run catless (for off road use only of course) can just follow our instructions on how to make their own and integrate it into the harness. When/if you send your PnP harness back into to us for the Doomsday update, we will remove it as well as perform the update. You can always reinstall a hardware version of the o2 sim using $2 worth of parts from Radioshack (3 resistors). Instructions up soon.

Shiv

cstmx_ryder · 06-07-2008, 10:57 PM

How do we know if we got a V3 with integrated O2 SIM or not?

Thanks

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Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

The first dozen or so v3 PnP kits we've sold had a built in o2 sim. But due to legal concerns, we have removed it. Those who chose to run catless (for off road use only of course) can just follow our instructions on how to make their own and integrate it into the harness. When/if you send your PnP harness back into to us for the Doomsday update, we will remove it as well as perform the update. You can always reinstall a hardware version of the o2 sim using $2 worth of parts from Radioshack (3 resistors). Instructions up soon.

Shiv

OpenFlash · 06-07-2008, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by cstmx_ryder

How do we know if we got a V3 with integrated O2 SIM or not?

Thanks

I'll be making a bulletin on our tuning forum explaining all of this. Basically, early release nonDoomsday v3 kits had the integrated o2 sim. These kits did not control fuel pressure and are not intended for 29.2 or MSD81. You can tell if you have this set-up because the relay on the harness will be black.

Doomsday v3 kits, intended for use with 29.2 and MSD81 do not have the o2 sim. They have clear/see-through relays.

Pictures will be up for clarity.

Shiv

cstmx_ryder · 06-07-2008, 11:03 PM

K, thanks.

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Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

I'll be making a bulletin on our tuning forum explaining all of this. Basically, early release nonDoomsday v3 kits had the integrated o2 sim. These kits did not control fuel pressure and are not intended for 29.2 or MSD81. You can tell if you have this set-up because the relay on the harness will be black.

Doomsday v3 kits, intended for use with 29.2 and MSD81 do not have the o2 sim. They have clear/see-through relays.

Pictures will be up for clarity.

Shiv

brusso · 06-07-2008, 11:08 PM

I have one of the bimmerfest v3 pnp's and i'm pretty sure you told me it has the o2 sims on it. Since I don't have any check eng. lights and I am running catless dp's I would have to assume I have the O2 sims... correct ?

OpenFlash · 06-07-2008, 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by brusso

I have one of the bimmerfest v3 pnp's and i'm pretty sure you told me it has the o2 sims on it. Since I don't have any check eng. lights and I am running catless dp's I would have to assume I have the O2 sims... correct ?

Yes, if you got it at Bimmerfest, you have the nonDoomsday harness with o2 sims

brusso · 06-07-2008, 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

Yes, if you got it at Bimmerfest, you have the nonDoomsday harness with o2 sims

thanks brother

good to know ! looks like I may need some other kind of update to the harness though huh...... look forward to more info on that

nj335i · 06-08-2008, 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

You can always reinstall a hardware version of the o2 sim using $2 worth of parts from Radioshack (3 resistors). Instructions up soon.

Man, it only costs $2 to make one of these??

dzenno · 06-08-2008, 02:02 AM

Shiv,
The v3 resistor trick for O2 sens. simmulation, will it allow you to have O2 and catalyst readiness, both? What about when using Terry's version?

RiXst3r · 06-08-2008, 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by dzenno

Shiv,
The v3 resistor trick for O2 sens. simmulation, will it allow you to have O2 and catalyst readiness, both? What about when using Terry's version?

I think v3 was the only way to get o2 readiness over obd2, but I am not sure.

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Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

So I spent the evening scoping the factory o2 sensor signal. Turns out that the ECU does a neat little trick to make sure that it's really reading off of a real o2 sensor and a simulation. And unless it passes this verification, readiness will never be achieved. So I revised the PROcede's o2 simm feature to mimick this trick to the T (easy when you are using a microcontroller for all signal processing). And sure enough, the problem is solved. Within a 10 minute drive, we achieved readiness while preventing any catalyst inefficiency/o2 sensor codes!

OpenFlash · 06-08-2008, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by dzenno

Shiv,
The v3 resistor trick for O2 sens. simmulation, will it allow you to have O2 and catalyst readiness, both? What about when using Terry's version?

I've never personally seen a car that didn't get cat readiness with v3. Either the original version with built-in sim or the $2 hardware version. I haven't really looked into what Terry's does or how it handles readiness.

marcvtec · 06-08-2008, 03:56 PM

why rem0ve the pnp 02 readyness ???
I want this feature
n0w again I must d0 extra w0rk
4 the same price maybe
V3 c0ming yet ????????????

M3to335 · 06-08-2008, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

I've never personally seen a car that didn't get cat readiness with v3. Either the original version with built-in sim or the $2 hardware version. I haven't really looked into what Terry's does or how it handles readiness.

Im still the bastard child apparently. Ive beat the hell out of this dead horse, but I really wish someone else out there would give some feed back on their catless DPs and I/M monitor status.

So what your saying is that the software side of things (changes you made
a month or so ago, allowing readiness) will still be integrated into V3 maps. Thats good news for the other NC guys who are ready to pull the trigger.

As far as what Terry does... his setup wont allow readiness, it just gets rid of the dash light. So, Shiv, you definately have the one-up on him there.

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