[Acalamito321]

Just went to pep boys and they said they had to use my 15 mm spacer tht was on my old tires to make the 255 mpss tire fit with the vmr v710 18x9.5 et 45

I'm pretty sure this is bullshit and they don't know wht they're doing because there is someone on here running the same setup with 19s and no spacers or any modifications
Any thought?????? Or is this bullshit?

[Transfer]

No you do not need a spacer. In fact I poke some with my 255s on VMR 18x9.5 ET 45 in rear. Are spacers currently installed with that setup? Are you poking out a lot?

My winter setup Michelin PA4 with those specs and no spacer, OEM suspension:

[Acalamito321]

Originally Posted by Transfer

No you do not need a spacer. In fact I poke some with my 255s on VMR 18x9.5 ET 45 in rear. Are spacers currently installed with that setup? Are you poking out a lot?

My winter setup Michelin PA4 with those specs and no spacer, OEM suspension:

Yea the guys at pep boys used my 12 mm spacer in the rear and said it wouldent fit otherwise, the back of my car looks like a truck way too much poke. I was gonna buy a 5mm spacer to be safe but it seems like you don't need it for this setup I figured they just didn't know what they were doing
Are you 100% sure I can take the spacers off and the car will be fine with the 18x9.5 et45 on a 255 tire

[Acalamito321]

Originally Posted by Transfer

No you do not need a spacer. In fact I poke some with my 255s on VMR 18x9.5 ET 45 in rear. Are spacers currently installed with that setup? Are you poking out a lot?

My winter setup Michelin PA4 with those specs and no spacer, OEM suspension:

Have you had any problems whatsoever ever without a spacer and that setup?

[Transfer]

Originally Posted by Acalamito321

Yea the guys at pep boys used my 12 mm spacer in the rear and said it wouldent fit otherwise, the back of my car looks like a truck way too much poke. I was gonna buy a 5mm spacer to be safe but it seems like you don't need it for this setup I figured they just didn't know what they were doing
Are you 100% sure I can take the spacers off and the car will be fine with the 18x9.5 et45 on a 255 tire

Assuming we're still talking about the rears and that you're not lowered with negative camber... I'm 100% sure on my car and from everything VMR will tell you. No spacers. Never had any rubbing or other issues.

[Acalamito321]

Originally Posted by Transfer

Assuming we're still talking about the rears and that you're not lowered with negative camber... I'm 100% sure on my car and from everything VMR will tell you. No spacers.

No I'm not lowered,stock everything but rims and m2 exhaust
Okay great I'll have the spacers taken off tmm at a local shop

[Transfer]

Originally Posted by Acalamito321

No I'm not lowered,stock everything but rims and m2 exhaust
Okay great I'll have the spacers taken off tmm at a local shop

Just make sure you don't mix up the long and short bolts. That one cost me one time. oof

[Acalamito321]

Originally Posted by Transfer

Just make sure you don't mix up the long and short bolts. That one cost me one time. oof

Wait for the new tire and wheel setup should I be using the oem lug nuts or the longer black nuts that cake with the spacers now that I'm taking the spacers off

[aerobod]

Originally Posted by Acalamito321

Wait for the new tire and wheel setup should I be using the oem lug nuts or the longer black nuts that cake with the spacers now that I'm taking the spacers off

Use whichever bolts that have a minimum of 6 full turns of engagement in the hub, but not exceeding approximately 11 full turns (will catch on the parking brake mechanism in the rear if screwed in too far). Check there is no interference between the bolt tips and anything in the hub area by ensuring the wheel rotates freely with no noise while it is lifted off the ground.

[Transfer]

Originally Posted by Acalamito321

Wait for the new tire and wheel setup should I be using the oem lug nuts or the longer black nuts that cake with the spacers now that I'm taking the spacers off

OEM bolts on VMR wheels if no spacers. If you use the long bolts you'll jack up your wheel hub and wheels won't tighten down.

[Acalamito321]

Originally Posted by Transfer

OEM bolts on VMR wheels if no spacers. If you use the long bolts you'll jack up your wheel hub and wheels won't tighten down.

The guys at pep boys used my spacer bolts on all 4 tires-_-
Even though they only put spacers on the rear

[B58togo]

Taking a BMW to Pep Boys was a huge mistake. That said, PSS do run wide. I know my 18 x 9.5 et45, with 5mm spacers were fairly close to the strut cover with the stock 245 PSS. I just put 255 PSS on and man, it would be close without the spacer.

[mankid247]

I have the exact same size offset and tire width on my rears with dinan springs and definitely does not need spacers at all

[Acalamito321]

Originally Posted by mankid247

I have the exact same size offset and tire width on my rears with dinan springs and definitely does not need spacers at all

Okay great seems like mixed reviews tho, I'm thinking I'll go with just a 5mm spacer just in case

[Luftwaffe1O1]

You do NOT need a spacer on VMR wheels in the rear with an offset of et45. Even on 19s with et45 it will fit fine with MPSS 255/30/19.

There is some amount of poke in the rear with this setup already, a 15mm spacer will push your wheels out too far. If these are not fitting on your rear as is, something else might be wrong.

Look at the wheels and tire section for the amount of people running 18 and 19 inch rear wheels that are 9.5et45, it is A LOT of us, and this setup should not require spacers.

[Acalamito321]

Originally Posted by Luftwaffe1O1

You do NOT need a spacer on VMR wheels in the rear with an offset of et45. Even on 19s with et45 it will fit fine with MPSS 255/30/19.

There is some amount of poke in the rear with this setup already, a 15mm spacer will push your wheels out too far. If these are not fitting on your rear as is, something else might be wrong.

Look at the wheels and tire section for the amount of people running 18 and 19 inch rear wheels that are 9.5et45, it is A LOT of us, and this setup should not require spacers.

No pepboys said that I don't believe them because there's a bunch of ppl on here running this setup, the cars going to bmw Wednesday and after that I'll take the spacers off myself that night

[Luftwaffe1O1]

Originally Posted by Acalamito321

No pepboys said that I don't believe them because there's a bunch of ppl on here running this setup, the cars going to bmw Wednesday and after that I'll take the spacers off myself that night

Yeah I have no idea why they would think you need a 12mm spacer, when mounting the wheel on it should be obvious it will fit when the car is up in the air.

My guess is they are just unfamiliar with the offsets? Maybe they just don't know how to add? I think our stock offset is something like in the 50s? et58 maybe? Could they have added it wrong thinking its positive offset and adding a 12mm spacer would bring it closer to OEM?

edit: just to clarify on top of that, our cars have negative offset. So that et45 is -45. By adding a 12mm spacer, it changes the offset to et33. Which is WAY out of what it should be in the rear. At et45 we are pushing poke, for 9-9.5 inch rear wheel the 51-48 range is a bit better, but 45 still fits rather nicely, albeit with a couple of mm of poke.

At et33 with 9.5 inch wheels, you are going to look like a cholo truck rolling around.

[Acalamito321]

Originally Posted by Luftwaffe1O1

Yeah I have no idea why they would think you need a 12mm spacer, when mounting the wheel on it should be obvious it will fit when the car is up in the air.

My guess is they are just unfamiliar with the offsets? Maybe they just don't know how to add? I think our stock offset is something like in the 50s? et58 maybe? Could they have added it wrong thinking its positive offset and adding a 12mm spacer would bring it closer to OEM?

I honestly believe this pepboys is run by amateurs, reguardless of the spacer issue I had 4 tires and rims put on and payed for an alignment and when I left the steering wheel was pulling almost 90 degrees to the right and my brand new passenger rear tire was flat

[Luftwaffe1O1]

Originally Posted by Acalamito321

I honestly believe this pepboys is run by amateurs, reguardless of the spacer issue I had 4 tires and rims put on and payed for an alignment and when I left the steering wheel was pulling almost 90 degrees to the right and my brand new passenger rear tire was flat

Wow, yeah I would never take it to those guys again. I updated my post above to include some additional comments about offsets.

But yeah I would take it to some place that has dealt with our cars more often. Dealer charges an arm and a leg, but at least they know the cars better.

If you can find a good alignment shop, it will save you some money, but problem is a lot of shops will just wing it when they are unsure.

[Acalamito321]

Originally Posted by Luftwaffe1O1

Wow, yeah I would never take it to those guys again. I updated my post above to include some additional comments about offsets.

But yeah I would take it to some place that has dealt with our cars more often. Dealer charges an arm and a leg, but at least they know the cars better.

If you can find a good alignment shop, it will save you some money, but problem is a lot of shops will just wing it when they are unsure.

The main problem is finding that right place

[Luftwaffe1O1]

Originally Posted by Acalamito321

The main problem is finding that right place

Oh man trust me I am familiar with that. I happen to have lucked out that two guys that are friends of mine both run shops. And as a result have a lot of contacts throughout San Diego. It makes life a lot easier, but honestly best way is word of mouth recommendations from other enthusiasts etc. in your area.

[aozer]

post in the regional forum and see who other people in NYC use

i had AG M359 wheels in 18x9.5 et45 in the rear and it poked way too much. even without spacers it looked stupid, i cant image how bad it would look with spacers.