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      04-24-2018, 09:16 PM   #1
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Thoughts on Pilot Sport 4S on M40i

I’ve had Pilot Sport 4Ss installed on my M40i for a few weeks and am happy to report that they feel very good and are, I think, a significant improvement over the Alenzas (on 21” wheels) and Yokohamas (on 19” wheels).

By far the most noticeable difference is how responsive the tires feel — even on the M40i, they impart that “telepathic” feel that I’ve always associated with Michelin Pilot Super Sports. I think that arises from a combination of precise steering and instantaneous reaction from the tires. This is noticeable even when I’m driving below 8/10ths, and it feels great.

I suspect ultimate grip is probably materially improved, but honestly did not have the opportunity to push the Alenzas or Yokohamas hard enough to say for sure. I can say that AWD + grip means that this thing accelerates through corners in a way that my m235i just can’t, and the difference there is large.

All that said, even with pilot sport 4Ss, I don’t think this quite feels as good in the corners as the GLC43. The M40i is a much better all around package, in my view, and represents a much better mixture of ride quality + handling, but if I was only concerned about fun in corners, I still think the GLC43 wins.
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      04-25-2018, 01:51 AM   #3
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I've had Pilot Sport 4Ss installed on my M40i for a few weeks and am happy to report that they feel very good and are, I think, a significant improvement over the Alenzas (on 21" wheels) and Yokohamas (on 19" wheels).

By far the most noticeable difference is how responsive the tires feel — even on the M40i, they impart that "telepathic" feel that I've always associated with Michelin Pilot Super Sports. I think that arises from a combination of precise steering and instantaneous reaction from the tires. This is noticeable even when I'm driving below 8/10ths, and it feels great.

I suspect ultimate grip is probably materially improved, but honestly did not have the opportunity to push the Alenzas or Yokohamas hard enough to say for sure. I can say that AWD + grip means that this thing accelerates through corners in a way that my m235i just can't, and the difference there is large.

All that said, even with pilot sport 4Ss, I don't think this quite feels as good in the corners as the GLC43. The M40i is a much better all around package, in my view, and represents a much better mixture of ride quality + handling, but if I was only concerned about fun in corners, I still think the GLC43 wins.
Did you find the 4s in 21" size?
I don't see them on tire rack.
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Did you find the 4s in 21" size?
I don't see them on tire rack.
No, they are 20” size. Thought that there is a non-oem size 4s setup for 21”s, but haven’t investigated.
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      04-25-2018, 07:30 AM   #5
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I am on my second set of Pilot Sports 4Ss on my Z4M roadster. I like the grip, quiet operation, and smooth ride. With 500+ HP, they don’t last long - they actually howl under hard acceleration - but for 18”, they were priced competitively.
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No, they are 20” size. Thought that there is a non-oem size 4s setup for 21”s, but haven’t investigated.
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I’ve had Pilot Sport 4Ss installed on my M40i for a few weeks and am happy to report that they feel very good and are, I think, a significant improvement over the Alenzas (on 21” wheels) and Yokohamas (on 19” wheels).
I'm confused by your original post b/c you compared your review to 21" and 19" wheels. So you have a 2nd or 3rd set wheels in 20" or you are just comparing to when you test drove other M40is?

And I've had no luck finding the 4s in 21"
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I had them on my E92 M3 Competition package (19"). Great grip, quiet and the ride was good.

I hope that when the Bridgerocks are done there will be a Michelin 4S in 21"
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I'm confused by your original post b/c you compared your review to 21" and 19" wheels. So you have a 2nd or 3rd set wheels in 20" or you are just comparing to when you test drove other M40is?

And I've had no luck finding the 4s in 21"
Long story, but 3 test drives on 21” and then bought with 19". Now have 19" wheels with winter tires (switched to Pirelli Scorpions from Yokohamas) and a second 20" set with 4Ss.

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I had them on my E92 M3 Competition package (19"). Great grip, quiet and the ride was good.

I hope that when the Bridgerocks are done there will be a Michelin 4S in 21"
That's what I'm hoping too as well.
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