Forge 335i wastegate actuators

e.n335 · 06-29-2008, 12:13 PM

Can Forge make some nice and high-quality wastegate actuators for the 335i ? In case they can, how hard would it be to replace them ?

Don't repair - improve

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Thanks,
Eugen

P.S. My car has no wastegate actuator problem. PM to Mike at Forge sent.

satinghostrider · 06-29-2008, 12:34 PM

I agree. Though my car is on new turbos with the new wastegate actuator, sometimes the wastegate problem may not necessarily be because of the actuator itself. For mine it was the wastegate valve that was loose that can and only be solved by changing the whole turbo together with the exhaust manifold that houses the wastegate valve internally.

O-cha · 06-29-2008, 01:43 PM

Uhhh...

e.n335 · 06-29-2008, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by O-cha

Uhhh...

Go buy your M3

all8up · 06-30-2008, 08:07 AM

If Forge is unable to meet this request. You should probably try a turbo builder/rebuilder like Forced Performance or Deadbolt enterprises. Both of these companies have done extensive work on MHI turbos.

e.n335 · 06-30-2008, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by all8up

If Forge is unable to meet this request. You should probably try a turbo builder/rebuilder like Forced Performance or Deadbolt enterprises. Both of these companies have done extensive work on MHI turbos.

Thank you. Anyhow, I plan to buy a pair of OEM turbos for cheap and hand them over to Forced Performance. Lets see what they can build out of them

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I'm looking for 1) reliability and 2) performance. This is scheduled on my side for February 2009.

Cheers,
Eugen

all8up · 06-30-2008, 05:54 PM

I've used FP several times in the past and was very satisfied on the products and services rendered, but I can say deadbolt does offer some services that FP does not. For one, they offer thermo coating and, they offer life time free rebuilds....that alone is a pretty compelling reason to go with them.

Here's deadbolt's site...
http://www.boostplanet.com/

e.n335 · 06-30-2008, 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by all8up

I've used FP several times in the past and was very satisfied on the products and services rendered, but I can say deadbolt does offer some services that FP does not. For one, they offer thermo coating and, they offer life time free rebuilds....that alone is a pretty compelling reason to go with them.

Here's deadbolt's site...
http://www.boostplanet.com/

Thanks

angelr · 07-01-2008, 08:43 AM

Hello gang, just chiming in to say that we can do this easily. Does anyone have a set of stockers that can be used as a starting point? Feel free to email us at sales@forgemotorsport.com to discuss or volunteer a set. We'll of course reward the person that supplies us with the units with a set of the forge units.

e.n335 · 07-01-2008, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by angel@forgemotorsport.com

Hello gang, just chiming in to say that we can do this easily. Does anyone have a set of stockers that can be used as a starting point? Feel free to email us at sales@forgemotorsport.com to discuss or volunteer a set. We'll of course reward the person that supplies us with the units with a set of the forge units.

Thank you for chiming in. This week is a bit tight on my side but next week I'll go to my dealership to buy a set of actuators ( I think they are really not expensive ) to send them to you. I don't like the idea of a rattling actuator rod destroying the wastegate seats / valves.

Cheers,
Eugen

DesignAutoStudio · 07-03-2008, 11:13 AM

I can bring the car down there again if needed. Mike has my number over here at the shop

McLuVan · 07-04-2008, 09:59 PM

I would buy these in a heart beat if you guys make them......
that's if they are reasonably priced

jadeddjay · 07-06-2008, 10:46 AM

what kind of price would these be set at if they do make it into production?

pdjafari · 07-06-2008, 03:54 PM

this would be a great idea

Hunter399 · 07-06-2008, 04:25 PM

Id be down for sure

jadeddjay · 07-14-2008, 11:42 PM

any updates on this?

jadeddjay · 07-27-2008, 11:17 PM

??

Mike@Forge · 09-01-2008, 11:55 AM

Sorry I haven't been on the forum in a while guys.

We can definitely look at doing this, but it requires having samples of OEM actuators off of the car to be able to replicate them.

Does anyone have a spare set?
Taken off when their car was at the dealership having the turbos replaced or something?

Pricing will vary based on the complexity of the units. Anywhere from $150 per unit ($300 per pair) up to $190 per unit ($380 per pair).

I had initially thought about doing this quite a while ago, based on the issues people were having with the OEM wastegate flappers failing, but this was prior to any concrete evidence as to where the failures were actually occuring. If it was the actuators, than making replacements made perfect sence, but since it doesn't appear to be the OEM unit failling, I don't want to offer replacements that might exacerbate the problem. We can definitely still look into, however.

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angelr Lieutenant 189 Rep 515 Posts Drives: 07 aw/ir m coupe, 2013 S4 Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Cedarpines park, Ca iTrader: (1)	Hello gang, just chiming in to say that we can do this easily. Does anyone have a set of stockers that can be used as a starting point? Feel free to email us at sales@forgemotorsport.com to discuss or volunteer a set. We'll of course reward the person that supplies us with the units with a set of the forge units.
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Mike@Forge Private 6 Rep 53 Posts Drives: GTI Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Orlando iTrader: (0)	Sorry I haven't been on the forum in a while guys. We can definitely look at doing this, but it requires having samples of OEM actuators off of the car to be able to replicate them. Does anyone have a spare set? Taken off when their car was at the dealership having the turbos replaced or something? Pricing will vary based on the complexity of the units. Anywhere from $150 per unit ($300 per pair) up to $190 per unit ($380 per pair). I had initially thought about doing this quite a while ago, based on the issues people were having with the OEM wastegate flappers failing, but this was prior to any concrete evidence as to where the failures were actually occuring. If it was the actuators, than making replacements made perfect sence, but since it doesn't appear to be the OEM unit failling, I don't want to offer replacements that might exacerbate the problem. We can definitely still look into, however.
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