Well, I messed up with my wheel purchase

Trubester88 · 10-27-2018, 08:34 AM

A member from the M3, M4 forum reached out to me since I had shown interest in some HRE wheels. I was initially very uneducated when it came to understanding wheel sizes last week and I trusted the member when he said they would fit the M2 as it was in his title. I didn't get the specs from him as I trusted they were acceptable for the M2.

I sent the money to the seller as I reached out to HRE to ensure the serial number indicated an original wheel and not a fake. Not only did they say it was genuine, they even checked the specs for me and are below.
HRE S107 19x9.5et20
HRE S107 19x11et37

They told me the wheel is overly aggressive and that I assume the risk of putting the wheel on. After reading more on this forum and educating myself properly I found the rear outer rim would stick out 15.7mm further than the stock 437's and greatly increase my risk to damaging my arches. I could stretch the tire but I absolutely do not like that look.

I reached out to the seller and told him what HRE told me and although he stated they have been on an M2 before, his pictures showed them on his Porsche's. I asked him if I could send them back to him for a refund and for me to assume the shipping cost (shipping to and from Italy is not cheap) and he said no returns which is an educational lesson on my part and a lack of integrity on his.

I asked him why he stated they would fit on an M2 with those offsets. I guess I am forced to try to sell them on my own when they arrive. So if you are interested in some Matte Bronze HRE S107's let me know.

HODLM · 10-27-2018, 08:57 AM

The simple solution would be to get a Porsche!

Jokes aside, it always sucks to get burned. Silver lining is you learned an inexpensive lesson as you can always sell them.

sobek305 · 10-27-2018, 10:10 AM

How did you pay for the wheels? There may still me some recourse there depending if your answer is PayPal goods and services or credit card even.

Worst case, you can resell the wheels (hopefully locally) as they are usually sought after - find out what car they will fit best and go on those forums

Trubester88 · 10-27-2018, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by sobek305

How did you pay for the wheels? There may still me some recourse there depending if your answer is PayPal goods and services or credit card even.

Worst case, you can resell the wheels (hopefully locally) as they are usually sought after - find out what car they will fit best and go on those forums

I paid using paypal but through the friends/family (another note for next time). I will post them on a european MFlight forum as I am currently living in Italy for M3/M4 owners and will hopefully sell them at a euro rate.

mr_lab_rat · 10-27-2018, 07:35 PM

I think you should try to fit them. The stock 437s can take 10mm spacer without poking so you only got 5-6mm to deal with. The fronts could use some extra camber anyway as they wear on the outside with stock alignment.

It's an aggressive fit but it's been done. What size tires were you thinking about 255/35 and 285/30?

Trubester88 · 10-28-2018, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by mr_lab_rat

I think you should try to fit them. The stock 437s can take 10mm spacer without poking so you only got 5-6mm to deal with. The fronts could use some extra camber anyway as they wear on the outside with stock alignment.

It's an aggressive fit but it's been done. What size tires were you thinking about 255/35 and 285/30?

I was hoping for up to 295 on the rear. I don’t want to stretch the tire to much but if you suggest 285, I could go with that. I am looking for PS4S or pilot sport cup 2’s after the winter.

mr_lab_rat · 10-28-2018, 04:47 PM

That should be fine too. Just search this forum for aggressive wheel fitment to see what these offsets would look like.
The rear is equivalent to 10 inch ET24 or 10.5 inch ET 30. It's been done on M2 with pretty wide tires so you can get an idea of what it would look like.

Here is one of the aggressive setups - https://f87.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...&postcount=308

Trubester88 · 10-29-2018, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by mr_lab_rat

That should be fine too. Just search this forum for aggressive wheel fitment to see what these offsets would look like.
The rear is equivalent to 10 inch ET24 or 10.5 inch ET 30. It's been done on M2 with pretty wide tires so you can get an idea of what it would look like.

Here is one of the aggressive setups - https://f87.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...&postcount=308

Thank you for giving me some hope! Those are even 20” wheels and my 19’s with 30mm profile should give me some wiggle room with my stock suspension. I think my rear will stick out 3mm more than the fella from that post but that isn’t terrible.

mr_lab_rat · 10-29-2018, 08:47 PM

It also depends on the ride height. I believe the lower you go the more the wheel tucks in (the track narrows). Not by much but we are fighting for millimeters.
The factory alignment doesn't have much camber so you could gain a bit there too.

Some other, more extreme measures I have seen was shaving the wheels and/or hubs.

All this is not unique to BMW, any active car modifying forum should be a good source of information.

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Trubester88 Private 107 Rep 54 Posts Drives: 2018 BMW M2 Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: Redmond Washington iTrader: (0)	Well, I messed up with my wheel purchase A member from the M3, M4 forum reached out to me since I had shown interest in some HRE wheels. I was initially very uneducated when it came to understanding wheel sizes last week and I trusted the member when he said they would fit the M2 as it was in his title. I didn't get the specs from him as I trusted they were acceptable for the M2. I sent the money to the seller as I reached out to HRE to ensure the serial number indicated an original wheel and not a fake. Not only did they say it was genuine, they even checked the specs for me and are below. HRE S107 19x9.5et20 HRE S107 19x11et37 They told me the wheel is overly aggressive and that I assume the risk of putting the wheel on. After reading more on this forum and educating myself properly I found the rear outer rim would stick out 15.7mm further than the stock 437's and greatly increase my risk to damaging my arches. I could stretch the tire but I absolutely do not like that look. I reached out to the seller and told him what HRE told me and although he stated they have been on an M2 before, his pictures showed them on his Porsche's. I asked him if I could send them back to him for a refund and for me to assume the shipping cost (shipping to and from Italy is not cheap) and he said no returns which is an educational lesson on my part and a lack of integrity on his. I asked him why he stated they would fit on an M2 with those offsets. I guess I am forced to try to sell them on my own when they arrive. So if you are interested in some Matte Bronze HRE S107's let me know. __________________ 2018 BMW M2 LBB Manual as of 26 June 18 2014 F12 BMW M6 Gran Coupe US Spec Last edited by Trubester88; 10-27-2018 at 08:39 AM..
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HODLM First Lieutenant 364 Rep 350 Posts Drives: 2018 M2/AW/6MT; '16 X5 Hybrid Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: Miami, Fl. iTrader: (0)	The simple solution would be to get a Porsche! Jokes aside, it always sucks to get burned. Silver lining is you learned an inexpensive lesson as you can always sell them.
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sobek305 Second Lieutenant 87 Rep 260 Posts Drives: xxx Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Florida iTrader: (2)	How did you pay for the wheels? There may still me some recourse there depending if your answer is PayPal goods and services or credit card even. Worst case, you can resell the wheels (hopefully locally) as they are usually sought after - find out what car they will fit best and go on those forums
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mr_lab_rat Major 566 Rep 1,093 Posts Drives: 2017 M2, 2018 X1 Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Vancouver iTrader: (0)	I think you should try to fit them. The stock 437s can take 10mm spacer without poking so you only got 5-6mm to deal with. The fronts could use some extra camber anyway as they wear on the outside with stock alignment. It's an aggressive fit but it's been done. What size tires were you thinking about 255/35 and 285/30?
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mr_lab_rat Major 566 Rep 1,093 Posts Drives: 2017 M2, 2018 X1 Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Vancouver iTrader: (0)	That should be fine too. Just search this forum for aggressive wheel fitment to see what these offsets would look like. The rear is equivalent to 10 inch ET24 or 10.5 inch ET 30. It's been done on M2 with pretty wide tires so you can get an idea of what it would look like. Here is one of the aggressive setups - https://f87.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...&postcount=308 Last edited by mr_lab_rat; 10-28-2018 at 05:02 PM..
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mr_lab_rat Major 566 Rep 1,093 Posts Drives: 2017 M2, 2018 X1 Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Vancouver iTrader: (0)	It also depends on the ride height. I believe the lower you go the more the wheel tucks in (the track narrows). Not by much but we are fighting for millimeters. The factory alignment doesn't have much camber so you could gain a bit there too. Some other, more extreme measures I have seen was shaving the wheels and/or hubs. All this is not unique to BMW, any active car modifying forum should be a good source of information.
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