M2C suspension daily harshness

ruderegime · 11-17-2018, 01:50 PM

How does the M2C ride? Stiff and jarring? Good livable daily?
Adjustable?

jeff4598 · 11-17-2018, 01:55 PM

No adjustment. My impression is very well controlled impact from bumps but the car heaves side to side and front to back more than I would like. This may be that it's the smallest car I have driven in many years; not sure. I'm still breaking it in but I felt it was slightly unsettled in a bumpy turn ( while braking moderately). I'm hoping coil-over and lighter wheels makes it less "tilty".

SumBloodyGuy · 11-17-2018, 01:58 PM

I retired my e36 m3 to storage and replaced with the m2c for daily. So I may not be the best person to comment but shit drives great so far? Ohlins coilovers are on now so can't comment on stock suspension much.

FSU_Logan · 11-17-2018, 01:59 PM

It rides fine. Should be stiffer for a competition model

Philb65 · 11-17-2018, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by FSU_Logan

It rides fine. Should be stiffer for a competition model

It isn't. Same as original M2, perfectly fine as a daily.

ruderegime · 11-17-2018, 02:51 PM

Thanks for all the info. Thinking about getting one, but still happy in my C7 ZO6.
Just kinda missing the E92 M3 I traded in for my Z06

devo · 11-17-2018, 03:03 PM

I believe BMW tuned the shock dampening to better absorb the sharp bumps while also creating a better handling car. Slight nuances makes this car feel different the the original. At least that's how mine feels over its predecessor. Other factors contribute to the improved handling of course, shock tower brace being among them. I use mine as a dd.

Philb65 · 11-17-2018, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by devo

I believe BMW tuned the shock dampening to better absorb the sharp bumps while also creating a better handling car. Slight nuances makes this car feel different the the original. At least that's how mine feels over its predecessor. Other factors contribute to the improved handling of course, shock tower brace being among them. I use mine as a dd.

Could be wrong but I think the only difference is the engine brace and the eps settings. Be interested to know if there are any further changes.

MrOhnoez · 11-17-2018, 03:39 PM

It feels like my golf R in normal mode over bumps, it really impressed me, feels much more planted as well

devo · 11-17-2018, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Philb65

Could be wrong but I think the only difference is the engine brace and the eps settings. Be interested to know if there are any further changes.

I believe you are correct as was I if you r-read my post; in part: "Other factors contribute to the improved handling of course, shock tower brace being among them."

To be clear, I also believe EPS settings and the massive carbon strut tower brace are the the main factors for the improved handling, maybe even exclusively. What I was referring to was the abruptness over the sharp bumps in the original M2 vs. the M2C where I feel a noticeable improvement over small bumps which I terrorize is due to revised shock dampening. Certainly, the strut tower brace and the EPS settings do not contribute to this.

Philb65 · 11-17-2018, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by devo

I believe you are correct as was I if you r-read my post; in part: "Other factors contribute to the improved handling of course, shock tower brace being among them."

ruderegime · 11-17-2018, 04:19 PM

I've heard of reviews of the original M2 to be too stiff for daily driving. I don't know if that's true as I've never driven one

chris719 · 11-17-2018, 07:24 PM

I didn't think the OG M2 was too stiff for a DD at all.

With that said, I don't think these F8x cars have the best ride quality / body control compromise. Porsche and others seem to be able to make their cars more compliant and still have better control of body motions.

Kothar · 11-17-2018, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ruderegime

I've heard of reviews of the original M2 to be too stiff for daily driving. I don't know if that's true as I've never driven one

The old guys at C&D certainly think so!

akkando · 11-17-2018, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Philb65

Quote:

Originally Posted by devo

I believe BMW tuned the shock dampening to better absorb the sharp bumps while also creating a better handling car. Slight nuances makes this car feel different the the original. At least that's how mine feels over its predecessor. Other factors contribute to the improved handling of course, shock tower brace being among them. I use mine as a dd.

Could be wrong but I think the only difference is the engine brace and the eps settings. Be interested to know if there are any further changes.

It weighs 120 pounds more. Add 120 pounds to the n55 m2 and it's suspension will change to feel closure to the m2c.

akkando · 11-17-2018, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ruderegime

I've heard of reviews of the original M2 to be too stiff for daily driving. I don't know if that's true as I've never driven one

It's not true, but I'm sure you can find a used one to test drive to see for yourself.

devo · 11-17-2018, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by akkando

It weighs 120 pounds more. Add 120 pounds to the n55 m2 and it's suspension will change to feel closure to the m2c.

Weight; seriously you believe weight is the improved handling dynamic ?!?!?! ... lol

akkando · 11-17-2018, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by devo

Quote:

Originally Posted by akkando

It weighs 120 pounds more. Add 120 pounds to the n55 m2 and it's suspension will change to feel closure to the m2c.

Weight; seriously you believe weight is the improved handling dynamic ?!?!?! ... lol

This was just posted

https://f87.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...0#post24004230

"Add some weight to the car, then the suspension and ride feel like a dream. When I load mine up for track days (4 track tires and wheels in the back seat, two plastic crates of track tools and other stuff plus an overnight bag) the suspension really seems to soften up quite a bit. I do note that the OEM suspension is fantastic on the track."

cptobvious · 11-17-2018, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by akkando

This was just posted

https://f87.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...0#post24004230

"Add some weight to the car, then the suspension and ride feel like a dream. When I load mine up for track days (4 track tires and wheels in the back seat, two plastic crates of track tools and other stuff plus an overnight bag) the suspension really seems to soften up quite a bit. I do note that the OEM suspension is fantastic on the track."

Mr. akkando is right. When I first read articles talking about how adding additional weight to a car can make the ride quality significantly nicer, I thought those folks must have been hitting the pipe a bit too hard. But, read through some of these articles and it makes logical sense.

It's completely counter to everything we encounter on this forum - everyone always wants the car to be lighter. Always. But, there are some benefits sometimes to having added weight.

https://rqriley.com/automobile-ride-...mass-vehicles/

The link below is the Cliff's Notes version of the article above.

https://lexusenthusiast.com/forums/t...handling.4393/

aerokubectl · 11-17-2018, 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by devo

Weight; seriously you believe weight is the improved handling dynamic ?!?!?! ... lol

A bit of this, 120 is fairly insignificant

swifty · 11-17-2018, 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cptobvious

Mr. akkando is right. When I first read articles talking about how adding additional weight to a car can make the ride quality significantly nicer, I thought those folks must have been hitting the pipe a bit too hard. But, read through some of these articles and it makes logical sense.

It's completely counter to everything we encounter on this forum - everyone always wants the car to be lighter. Always. But, there are some benefits sometimes to having added weight.

https://rqriley.com/automobile-ride-...mass-vehicles/

The link below is the Cliff's Notes version of the article above.

https://lexusenthusiast.com/forums/t...handling.4393/

Learn something new every day on this site.

SCM2016 · 11-17-2018, 11:42 PM

ruderegime, back to your initial question. Like you, I also have a C7 Z06 and recently took delivery of a M2C as my daily driver. The M2C's ride is stiffer than the Z06 in tour mode (which is what I use driving around town). The magnetic ride control in Z06 does a great job and if you have a pre 2019 Z06 the software update to the 2019 magnetic ride control parameters seems to improve even more. Having said that, I expected a pretty stiff suspension in the M2C and I am not surprised or disappointed with the ride. I traded in a Mercedes E convertible and that was clearly a more comfortable car to drive. But, not as engaging or fun. I consider the M2C suspension stiff but not jarring. For me the M2C is a more practical daily driver than the Z06 and I appreciate its great advisability. But if you are looking for a weekend/track toy it is pretty hard to beat the Z06.

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jeff4598 Captain 172 Rep 676 Posts Drives: 2019 M2C HS, DCT, much Dinan Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: new jersey iTrader: (0)	No adjustment. My impression is very well controlled impact from bumps but the car heaves side to side and front to back more than I would like. This may be that it's the smallest car I have driven in many years; not sure. I'm still breaking it in but I felt it was slightly unsettled in a bumpy turn ( while braking moderately). I'm hoping coil-over and lighter wheels makes it less "tilty".
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SumBloodyGuy Enlisted Member 120 Rep 49 Posts Drives: 19 M2C Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: stockton CA iTrader: (0)	I retired my e36 m3 to storage and replaced with the m2c for daily. So I may not be the best person to comment but shit drives great so far? Ohlins coilovers are on now so can't comment on stock suspension much. __________________ 2019 M2C on the way! 2015 gt3 / 09 GTR / 98 m3 / 97 m3 / 93 Z32 / 91 Celica All-Trac / 74 911
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devo Colonel 755 Rep 2,736 Posts Drives: Bimmers & Porsches Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Atlanta iTrader: (0)	I believe BMW tuned the shock dampening to better absorb the sharp bumps while also creating a better handling car. Slight nuances makes this car feel different the the original. At least that's how mine feels over its predecessor. Other factors contribute to the improved handling of course, shock tower brace being among them. I use mine as a dd. __________________ '19 M2C HS, 6-Spd, Slick Top, MComp Wheels '18 GT3 White, 6-Spd, Buckets, PCCBs
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ruderegime Private First Class 17 Rep 172 Posts Drives: M3 Coupe E92 Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Albuquerque iTrader: (2)	I've heard of reviews of the original M2 to be too stiff for daily driving. I don't know if that's true as I've never driven one
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chris719 Major General 7334 Rep 7,299 Posts Drives: '08 M Roadster Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: NJ iTrader: (0)	I didn't think the OG M2 was too stiff for a DD at all. With that said, I don't think these F8x cars have the best ride quality / body control compromise. Porsche and others seem to be able to make their cars more compliant and still have better control of body motions.
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SCM2016 SCM2016 27 Rep 20 Posts Drives: M2C 2019 Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: midwest iTrader: (0)	ruderegime, back to your initial question. Like you, I also have a C7 Z06 and recently took delivery of a M2C as my daily driver. The M2C's ride is stiffer than the Z06 in tour mode (which is what I use driving around town). The magnetic ride control in Z06 does a great job and if you have a pre 2019 Z06 the software update to the 2019 magnetic ride control parameters seems to improve even more. Having said that, I expected a pretty stiff suspension in the M2C and I am not surprised or disappointed with the ride. I traded in a Mercedes E convertible and that was clearly a more comfortable car to drive. But, not as engaging or fun. I consider the M2C suspension stiff but not jarring. For me the M2C is a more practical daily driver than the Z06 and I appreciate its great advisability. But if you are looking for a weekend/track toy it is pretty hard to beat the Z06.
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