[onefastdoc]

Has anyone used the V3 Stage 1 map for cars with stock DP's but with an open element air filter? I'm using the Doomsday map but have the dual cone intake setup and was wondering if by switching to the Stage 1 map I will notice a significant difference.

Thanks.

[tek818]

Originally Posted by onefastdoc

Has anyone used the V3 Stage 1 map for cars with stock DP's but with an open element air filter? I'm using the Doomsday map but have the dual cone intake setup and was wondering if by switching to the Stage 1 map I will notice a significant difference.

Thanks.

why are u running the doomsday map if you are able to (non 29.2/v81)? I am running stg 1 doomsday... LOVE IT!

[shyestsparks]

Originally Posted by tek818

why are u running the doomsday map if you are able to (non 29.2/v81)? I am running stg 1 doomsday... LOVE IT!

+1.

[NRG]

Originally Posted by onefastdoc

Has anyone used the V3 Stage 1 map for cars with stock DP's but with an open element air filter? I'm using the Doomsday map but have the dual cone intake setup and was wondering if by switching to the Stage 1 map I will notice a significant difference.

Thanks.

Actually I would like to know that as well, non doomsday though. How big is the difference between Stage 0 and 1. Considering adding a DCI over a drop in? I'm not really the induction noise lover.

[e90AW335i]

Originally Posted by NRG

Actually I would like to know that as well, non doomsday though. How big is the difference between Stage 0 and 1. Considering adding a DCI over a drop in? I'm not really the induction noise lover.

V3 w/Stage 1 map, K&N dual cones, stock everything else my car put down 365rwhp/370trq.....

I would try the map out....

[NRG]

Originally Posted by e90AW335i

V3 w/Stage 1 map, K&N dual cones, stock everything else my car put down 365rwhp/370trq.....

I would try the map out....

Thanks for reminding me. I'm very aware of the numbers, it's the butt dyno feeling compared to "Stage 0" I'm interested in. Basically stock airbox with a drop in vs. DCI setup on a V3.

[e90AW335i]

Originally Posted by NRG

Thanks for reminding me. I'm very aware of the numbers, it's the butt dyno feeling compared to "Stage 0" I'm interested in. Basically stock airbox with a drop in vs. DCI setup on a V3.

Butt dyno might be hard to tell since the power is gained in the top end.

[NRG]

Originally Posted by e90AW335i

Butt dyno might be hard to tell since the power is gained in the top end.

Thanks, so all in all statements like "added dci on a V3 and car has transformed" could be ignored.

[NM_BMW]

Originally Posted by NRG

Actually I would like to know that as well, non doomsday though. How big is the difference between Stage 0 and 1. Considering adding a DCI over a drop in? I'm not really the induction noise lover.

I would say not huge, but you can feel the difference that's for sure. I went from stage 0 then put in my dual cones and loaded stage 1. Spool up is incredible!!

[e90AW335i]

Originally Posted by NRG

Thanks, so all in all statements like "added dci on a V3 and car has transformed" could be ignored.

IMO, yes. It is hard to feel 15hp when you have 350 already to the ground. Maybe down low you could feel that but since it is up top you are already accelerating and it is hard to tell....

[onefastdoc]

Originally Posted by tek818

why are u running the doomsday map if you are able to (non 29.2/v81)? I am running stg 1 doomsday... LOVE IT!

My V3 came with the doomsday map already loaded. Since I have a non 29.2/v81 car, I am very eager to get rid of the doomsday and try the Stage 1 (since I have dual cones). By the way, I didn't know there were various staged doomsday maps. I thought our choices were only:

1. Doomsday
2. Stage 0 non-doomsday
3. Stage 1 non-doomsday
4. Stage 2 non-doomsday

Am I wrong?

[tmw139]

Originally Posted by onefastdoc

My V3 came with the doomsday map already loaded. Since I have a non 29.2/v81 car, I am very eager to get rid of the doomsday and try the Stage 1 (since I have dual cones). By the way, I didn't know there were various staged doomsday maps. I thought our choices were only:

1. Doomsday
2. Stage 0 non-doomsday
3. Stage 1 non-doomsday
4. Stage 2 non-doomsday

Am I wrong?

yep, there is a doomsday and a non-doomsday version of each map (6 total). see pic below.

link to the maps & firmware:

http://www.vishnutuningforum.com/for...read.php?t=426

[Panoz]

I'm pretty confused with the map-stages. I run cattless DPs and stock filter with pre-V81 ECU.
What stage should i use?

[cwn23]

stage1

[Panoz]

why not stage 0?

[cwn23]

Originally Posted by Panoz

why not stage 0?

Either or would be fine since you have catless dps, but since you are letting more flow for the exhaust, why wouldn't you install a mod that lets it breath better! I am running the newest Beta map and firmware 7-11 map and its the TITS...Smooth as can be for sure and IMO the best map and firmware to date! Try it out....

[e90AW335i]

Originally Posted by Panoz

I'm pretty confused with the map-stages. I run cattless DPs and stock filter with pre-V81 ECU.
What stage should i use?

Stage 0 because you have the stock airbox. Get some dual cones are run stage 1 or 2.....

[NM_BMW]

Originally Posted by e90AW335i

Stage 0 because you have the stock airbox. Get some dual cones are run stage 1 or 2.....

+1 but you have to be completely catless to run stage 2. Meaning catless dp's + aftermarket exhaust (catless of course). This is how I understood it.

All stock = stage 0
catless dp's + stock exhaust + stock intake = stage 0
stock dp's + aftermarket exhaust + stock intake = stage 0

Just dual cones (stock dp's & exhaust) = stage 1 (I think this is right?)
catless dp's + stock exhaust + dual cones = stage 1
stock dp's + aftermarket exhaust + dual cones = stage 1

catless dp's + aftermarket exhaust + stock intake = stage 2 (???)
catless dp's + aftermarket exhaust + dual cones = stage 2

[Panoz]

Originally Posted by cwn23

Either or would be fine since you have catless dps, but since you are letting more flow for the exhaust, why wouldn't you install a mod that lets it breath better!

I'm pretty sceptical of the improvement that some dual cones could result to.
I don't really think that they make such diffrence despite what many people says.

Have you really seen such improovement after the installation of one? i mostly think this is a placebo...

[e90AW335i]

Originally Posted by Panoz

Have you really seen such improovement after the installation of one?

Yes.

[cwn23]

Originally Posted by Panoz

I'm pretty sceptical of the improvement that some dual cones could result to.
I don't really think that they make such diffrence despite what many people says.

Have you really seen such improovement after the installation of one? i mostly think this is a placebo...

I have the UR CAI and with the combination of performance mods including Forge DV and catback exhaust along with the V3 and with all these mods together yields performance gains that are tenfolds....Performance mods in conjuntion with each other yields big gains....but asking for a specific mod in terms of gains is almost not easily felt with the butt dyno..
With your dual cone setup, you are allowing the engine to breath better for sure and that would definately help in performance especially since your tune increases the boost psi!

[Sniz]

what do you guys think I should run?

I have Catless DP's, stock exhaust, UR intake, Helix intercooler

I've run both stage 1 and 2 so far w/ no problems, but if stage 2 is designed for cars that are completely catless I dont want to use the wrong map....?