Remote 3D view scale

cygnusecks · 12-23-2018, 04:16 PM

...it needs some work. Cars parked next to mine appear comically large. Does everyone else see this?

lumpydog · 12-23-2018, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by cygnusecks

...it needs some work. Cars parked next to mine appear comically large. Does everyone else see this?

Yes - it's a riot. In my garage, my wife's car looks ginormous next to mine.

cygnusecks · 12-23-2018, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by cygnusecks

...it needs some work. Cars parked next to mine appear comically large. Does everyone else see this?

Yes - it's a riot. In my garage, my wife's car looks ginormous next to mine.

Hah same here... I feel so inferior! Like Lord Farquaad-level inferior.

MystroX5 · 12-23-2018, 05:21 PM

I took a remote pic of myself and my 9yr old daughter at different spots. My daughter should play for the WNBA.

mbarrett635 · 12-24-2018, 12:36 AM

At least yours is working. I can't activate it, because the option to do so is missing from the menu in mine.

sygazelle · 12-24-2018, 01:12 AM

Warning: Rant coming....

This is really sad. I wonder what the 3D development team was thinking when they signed off on this mess. Putting out garbage to meet a deadline with the notion that they can fix it in a future release is so shortsighted. Any level of testing would have caught this mess and should have caused somebody to say, this isn't good enough, fix it. We shouldn't have to be BMW's quality control department. I get that they are pressed for deadlines and they have many features and functions to build, test, and launch. But the kinds of nickel and dime issues being reported by new G05 owners should be embarassing to BMW leadership. I think this ready-fire-aim mentality actually takes more time and costs BMW more money than if they took a breath and developed a culture of getting it right the first time.

I know that the G05 is a new model and we should expect a few glitches. But BMW shouldn't settle for using that as an excuse. I can only image the conversation in the meeting room when they were disccussing the readiness of the 3D image:

First guy says, "Yes, I think this thing is ready to launch. The image quality looks great and this will really help our customer see the environment around his car."

Second guy says, "wait, the car next to the G05 is way too large. Its like 5 times bigger than it should be. We should find out why and fix it now."

First guy says, "I hear what you are saying but we have a deadline to meet. We can fix it in a future release. Its not a safefy issue or anything. I need to check this off and meet my deadline."

rant over. Sorry!

lumpydog · 12-24-2018, 05:41 AM

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Originally Posted by mbarrett635

At least yours is working. I can't activate it, because the option to do so is missing from the menu in mine.

Same here. You can still use 3D view inside the vehicle, on the control screen. Hit the camera button to the left of the shifter and then move the iDrive controller to the left and it will allow you to change to the 3D view.

It would be great to get Connected Drive App actually connected... my guess is, once you do that, the option to enable 3D view in the App will appear in the iDrive menu...

mynewx5 · 12-24-2018, 07:58 AM

Hopefully the rendering/stitching can be improved. Tip, you can see the raw image from each of the four cameras by tapping on the address bar above the rendering. It gives you the option to view left, right, back and front images.

X5_CC · 12-24-2018, 10:35 AM

One thing to think of is the physical limitations of the cameras capturing the images. The side cameras are on the mirrors pointed downward, so there is only so much that they can capture up high close to the vehicle. Even though this causes distortion for another vehicle parked close to the side, I still think the rendering of the image real-time in the 3D views is pretty amazing.

techc · 12-24-2018, 01:43 PM

If you go into gallery in the app, and tap "View Details", you will see that a total of 4 images (front, back, left, right) are captured each time a 3D view is rendered. Apparently the images are captured with ultra wide-angle fisheye lenses, and a side-effect of being able to capture such wide angles is visible distortion of the image.

What 3D view in the app does is that it "flattens" and stitches the 4 images together. From an image processing standpoint, converting these images to the correct apparent dimension is really quite difficult, not to mention that the view angle (from the user's perspective) can change arbitrarily. Judging from the final product (the 360 degree view), I would argue that BMW actually did a pretty admirable job there.

cygnusecks · 12-24-2018, 02:26 PM

Weirdo...

TucErDoc · 12-24-2018, 02:54 PM

3D view is stalling today. Not taking a picture at all. Anyone else having this issue?

Doc5513 · 12-24-2018, 02:57 PM

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3D view is stalling today. Not taking a picture at all. Anyone else having this issue?

Klaus is pulling bandwidth. Try again tomorrow.

cygnusecks · 12-24-2018, 03:00 PM

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3D view is stalling today. Not taking a picture at all. Anyone else having this issue?

Mine works several times today including my creeper pic... maybe your car is in a cellular dead zone?

TucErDoc · 12-24-2018, 03:10 PM

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3D view is stalling today. Not taking a picture at all. Anyone else having this issue?

Mine works several times today including my creeper pic... maybe your car is in a cellular dead zone?

Perhaps, although I tried it at various locations around town. It's getting stuck at this first step

cygnusecks · 12-24-2018, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by TucErDoc

3D view is stalling today. Not taking a picture at all. Anyone else having this issue?

Mine works several times today including my creeper pic... maybe your car is in a cellular dead zone?

Perhaps, although I tried it at various locations around town. It's getting stuck at this first step

Weird... just tried mine and it went through in about 30 seconds.. maybe different regions use different servers? I'm in FL

sygazelle · 12-24-2018, 04:15 PM

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Weirdo...

That guy looks familiar.

12-23-2018, 04:16 PM	#1
cygnusecks Second Lieutenant 101 Rep 205 Posts Drives: X5 (G05) Join Date: Dec 2018 Location: Orlando, FL iTrader: (0)	...it needs some work. Cars parked next to mine appear comically large. Does everyone else see this? Attached Images
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MystroX5 Major General 6290 Rep 5,324 Posts Drives: 2020 X7 M50i/ 911 Join Date: Dec 2018 Location: Central Pa. iTrader: (0)	I took a remote pic of myself and my 9yr old daughter at different spots. My daughter should play for the WNBA.
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12-24-2018, 12:36 AM	#5
mbarrett635 Private First Class 162 Rep 157 Posts Drives: 2019 X5 40i Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Harrisburg, PA, USA iTrader: (0)	At least yours is working. I can't activate it, because the option to do so is missing from the menu in mine.
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12-24-2018, 01:12 AM	#6
sygazelle Brigadier General 11414 Rep 3,406 Posts Drives: 2014 328i M-Sport, 2019 X5 40i Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: San Francisco iTrader: (0)	Warning: Rant coming.... This is really sad. I wonder what the 3D development team was thinking when they signed off on this mess. Putting out garbage to meet a deadline with the notion that they can fix it in a future release is so shortsighted. Any level of testing would have caught this mess and should have caused somebody to say, this isn't good enough, fix it. We shouldn't have to be BMW's quality control department. I get that they are pressed for deadlines and they have many features and functions to build, test, and launch. But the kinds of nickel and dime issues being reported by new G05 owners should be embarassing to BMW leadership. I think this ready-fire-aim mentality actually takes more time and costs BMW more money than if they took a breath and developed a culture of getting it right the first time. I know that the G05 is a new model and we should expect a few glitches. But BMW shouldn't settle for using that as an excuse. I can only image the conversation in the meeting room when they were disccussing the readiness of the 3D image: First guy says, "Yes, I think this thing is ready to launch. The image quality looks great and this will really help our customer see the environment around his car." Second guy says, "wait, the car next to the G05 is way too large. Its like 5 times bigger than it should be. We should find out why and fix it now." First guy says, "I hear what you are saying but we have a deadline to meet. We can fix it in a future release. Its not a safefy issue or anything. I need to check this off and meet my deadline." rant over. Sorry!
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12-24-2018, 07:58 AM	#8
mynewx5 Private First Class 74 Rep 165 Posts Drives: X5 Join Date: Nov 2018 Location: FL iTrader: (0)	Hopefully the rendering/stitching can be improved. Tip, you can see the raw image from each of the four cameras by tapping on the address bar above the rendering. It gives you the option to view left, right, back and front images.
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X5_CC Captain 289 Rep 668 Posts Drives: X5 40i Join Date: Nov 2018 Location: Texas iTrader: (0)	One thing to think of is the physical limitations of the cameras capturing the images. The side cameras are on the mirrors pointed downward, so there is only so much that they can capture up high close to the vehicle. Even though this causes distortion for another vehicle parked close to the side, I still think the rendering of the image real-time in the 3D views is pretty amazing.
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techc New Member 9 Rep 7 Posts Drives: 2019 G05 X5 Join Date: Nov 2018 Location: NC iTrader: (0)	If you go into gallery in the app, and tap "View Details", you will see that a total of 4 images (front, back, left, right) are captured each time a 3D view is rendered. Apparently the images are captured with ultra wide-angle fisheye lenses, and a side-effect of being able to capture such wide angles is visible distortion of the image. What 3D view in the app does is that it "flattens" and stitches the 4 images together. From an image processing standpoint, converting these images to the correct apparent dimension is really quite difficult, not to mention that the view angle (from the user's perspective) can change arbitrarily. Judging from the final product (the 360 degree view), I would argue that BMW actually did a pretty admirable job there.
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TucErDoc Second Lieutenant 74 Rep 287 Posts Drives: x5 ans m2 Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Tucson, AZ iTrader: (0)	3D view is stalling today. Not taking a picture at all. Anyone else having this issue?
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