03-01-2019, 12:12 AM | #1 |
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Will the new M3 with AWD - Move you from the M5?
Now that it has been confirmed that there will be an AWD version of the M3 and that they may/will have the same RWD button option as the M5...Will you look into down sizing?
At 474 HP for the standard car - 454 for a "pure" model that has manual only - and a host of potential 500+ HP CS, CSL and other versions - I am going to have to guess the balance of power to the ground (I am going to guess a mid 11 second 1/4 at low 120 MPH) and the reduced weight and size of the 3 series platform (and apparently 130 lbs lighter than the existing M3/M4) - plus the reduced price versus the M5 - could make it the ultimate goldilocks car for BMW. I am certainly keeping my eye on it. https://www.motorauthority.com/news/...w-m3-spy-shots |
03-01-2019, 12:13 AM | #2 |
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Another article from a couple of days ago...
https://www.hotcars.com/2020-bmw-m3-...option-454-hp/ |
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03-01-2019, 02:42 AM | #3 |
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I bought my M6 because of the V8TT + DCT + RWD + 4 seats combo. There is nothing else out there. The only other car I considered was an F82 6MT. The hope of a RWD 6MT G82 might have me go to the G82 but no way will I consider a ZF8.
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03-01-2019, 07:14 AM | #4 |
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BMW would have to upgrade the interior finish immensely to get my attention. I looked at them in detail at the dealership. Not close in finish to the X5M or M5. If BMW cloned the M5 finish and installed the s63tu , I would cancel my TTS. (Which is on the SIEM Cicero now).
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03-01-2019, 08:56 AM | #5 |
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Sure Ill consider - I like all different chassis sizes and love driving. While the M5 and M6 cars that I have had are faster, the E46, E92, F82 M3/M4 cars I also had were great cars the delivered great acceleration especially when modded, and while being less luxurious created an arguably more involved driver to chassis experience for me. I have had many times the smaller M and bigger car at the same time. I would miss both when I got out of the other. M5/M6 were/are great GT cars but my M3/M4's were just fun- something that is not always quantifiable or explained easily on a forum but they just were smaller aggressive rides that made me happy in sharp turns and quick bursts on open roads.
I am not a hp freak per se but have higher OEM hp cars. Porsche is a great example of how an excellent "lesser" hp car can deliver amazing performance and ultimately an excellent driver rewarding experience. Maybe this new M3/M4 chassis and AWD will create something similar? Who knows until we get behind the wheel but I hoping it will.
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That said - Onfire is correct - the interior in the 3 series seems overly bland and poopy. So that may be a game changer in the other direction for me. I continue to watch... |
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I remember my W210 E55 with the phone cradle--- I was in love.
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If its anything like what the F90 has brought vs the F10; Ill get one on principle alone.
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My plan is to move down to the new M3 once my lease is up. Love the M5 but I do miss the sport feel of the M3
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I would be shocked if it weren't at least as powerful / fast as this:
https://www.topgear.com/car-news/fir...ition-versions Might be worth a test-drive! |
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The dealers (aka stealerships) have begun questioning potential buyers here. Said first units are coming November/December.
There will be apparently 3 versions of the M3. A RWD, a AWD normal and a Competition with the M5's switchable AWD. They said it will have the same powertrain as the X3M (with the ZF8 as well). It will be a mini M5. I think BMW moved in the wrong direction with the M3, as it should be much more driver oriented than the M5 (given that the M5 is a car for wealthy business people, who want excitement in their commute or weekend, the M3 is for hard core keen drivers). |
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