M5POST
BMW Garage BMW Meets Register Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Go Back   M5POST - BMW M5 Forum > F10 M5 Forum > BMW M5 (F10) General Forum

Post Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      07-25-2008, 11:06 PM   #1
rzm3
Moderator
rzm3's Avatar
670
Rep
4,737
Posts

Drives: E92 M3
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: USA

iTrader: (18)

BMW M5 (2011) to Get TwinTurbo V8

From CarMagazine.co.uk

CAR has just bagged spy photos of the new BMW M5 out on test in Germany with its predecessor. The next-generation hot 5-series will not use the current 5.0-litre V10, which can only survive in production until 2011 because of ever-tightening emissions regs. In its place, the new M5 will use a twin-turbo V8 tuned to produce more power than today's hot-shot Five.

The new BMW M5: the lowdown

The new 5-series is due in 2009, pointing to an M-powered version the following year. And the new M5 won't mess with a winning formula; it will still mix executive comfort with supercar-slaying performance.

How so? Well, the new twin-turbo 4.4-litre V8 is said to send around 540bhp to the rear wheels. It's the same engine seen in the X6, but with attention lavished on it by the experts at M Power's experts in their HQ in Garching near Munich.

Farewell the characterful V10, then...

Expect a slightly different character from the high-revving, naturally aspirated 5.0-litre V10 in today's E60 M5. With twin-turbo punch, the new M5 will have razor-sharp responses irrespective of where the tacho needle is pointing. But will it have character and excitement galore too? Here's hoping...

How do you know this is the new BMW M5?

Our sources confirm this is the M-powered Five. Which makes sense – it's clearly out on test alongside the current E60 M5 at the (cliched, but tried-and-tested) Nurburgring and the prototype sports quad exhausts, which are an M-car giveaway. Plus the size of the rims, those huge brake discs and the low ride height all point to this being the new M5.

While the regular 5-series models will gain plenty of Efficient Dynamics goodies to trim consumption and emissions, it's unclear at this stage if the BMW M5 will gain such green know-how.

And what about the M5's gearbox?

Direct injection is likely, and the seven-speed twin-clutch box is the most likely transmission option. Today's E60 M5 does have a manual option, but only in North America. The way the market's going – with buyers flocking to paddle shifts in most territories – it seems that a semi-auto is more likely. We won't miss the jerky SMG automated manual one bit...



Appreciate 0
      07-25-2008, 11:19 PM   #2
ArmyBimmerDude
Major General
ArmyBimmerDude's Avatar
United_States
152
Rep
5,501
Posts

Drives: Lola
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Georgia

iTrader: (3)

Garage List
My god, look how big that is to the current M5. What does it weigh now, 4500lbs?
__________________
2007 E92 Montego Blue 335i
Appreciate 0
      07-25-2008, 11:22 PM   #3
AJerman
Major
AJerman's Avatar
United_States
29
Rep
1,381
Posts

Drives: '08 335i
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Wake Forest, NC

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by ArmyBimmerDude View Post
My god, look how big that is to the current M5. What does it weigh now, 4500lbs?
I think it's all perspective (in the first shot), and the camo plating on it. I don't think it's really going to be much, if any, bigger.

I'm actually a little disappointed in the 540 HP number considering we can get at least a good 350-400 out of our 3.0L I6 twin turbo, but I assume it's tuned down quite a bit as well. While the number does seem a little low for what it COULD do, it's still a LOT of horsepower for a production car of it's style.
__________________
2008 BMW 335i: Jet Black, Jade Gray, Gray Poplar, 6MT - Stock... for now.
Appreciate 0
      07-25-2008, 11:23 PM   #4
ArmyBimmerDude
Major General
ArmyBimmerDude's Avatar
United_States
152
Rep
5,501
Posts

Drives: Lola
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Georgia

iTrader: (3)

Garage List
Quote:
Originally Posted by AJerman View Post
I think it's all perspective (in the first shot), and the camo plating on it. I don't think it's really going to be much, if any, bigger.
Yeah, you're probably right. It wouldn't make any sense unless they wanted to fit everything in their inventory inside the M5.

You can see the bigger kidney grills through the "camo" though. If the pictures of the next gen 5 series are accurate, it'll make the E60 look real good IMHO.
__________________
2007 E92 Montego Blue 335i
Appreciate 0
      07-25-2008, 11:28 PM   #5
AJerman
Major
AJerman's Avatar
United_States
29
Rep
1,381
Posts

Drives: '08 335i
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Wake Forest, NC

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by ArmyBimmerDude View Post
Yeah, you're probably right. It wouldn't make any sense unless they wanted to fit everything in their inventory inside the M5.

You can see the bigger kidney grills through the "camo" though. If the pictures of the next gen 5 series are accurate, it'll make the E60 look real good IMHO.
Yeah, it looks a lot like the grills in the new 7s. I don't really like them, I think they look too big, but if it's a twin turbo V8, it probably needs all the air it can get.

The lights look quite a bit different too, but I don't put much faith in them being anywhere near a final design.
__________________
2008 BMW 335i: Jet Black, Jade Gray, Gray Poplar, 6MT - Stock... for now.
Appreciate 0
      07-25-2008, 11:32 PM   #6
ArmyBimmerDude
Major General
ArmyBimmerDude's Avatar
United_States
152
Rep
5,501
Posts

Drives: Lola
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Georgia

iTrader: (3)

Garage List
Quote:
Originally Posted by AJerman View Post
Yeah, it looks a lot like the grills in the new 7s. I don't really like them, I think they look too big, but if it's a twin turbo V8, it probably needs all the air it can get.

The lights look quite a bit different too, but I don't put much faith in them being anywhere near a final design.
You're right, I meant 7 series pics. This is the first BMW I bought, so I've never followed BMW's development of models. Will the final design be a lot different than this?

I agree with you. They're making the grills so big, eventually you'll be able to fit a kid through them.
__________________
2007 E92 Montego Blue 335i
Appreciate 0
      07-25-2008, 11:38 PM   #7
AJerman
Major
AJerman's Avatar
United_States
29
Rep
1,381
Posts

Drives: '08 335i
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Wake Forest, NC

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by ArmyBimmerDude View Post
You're right, I meant 7 series pics. This is the first BMW I bought, so I've never followed BMW's development of models. Will the final design be a lot different than this?

I agree with you. They're making the grills so big, eventually you'll be able to fit a kid through them.
Yeah, in the early development, the only thing they are really testing is the drivetrain. Then the shape will slowly come out, and finally little things like lights and mirrors and stuff will be changed. They do a pretty good job of hiding what exactly they are going to look like until they want you to see it.
__________________
2008 BMW 335i: Jet Black, Jade Gray, Gray Poplar, 6MT - Stock... for now.
Appreciate 0
      07-25-2008, 11:44 PM   #8
ArmyBimmerDude
Major General
ArmyBimmerDude's Avatar
United_States
152
Rep
5,501
Posts

Drives: Lola
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Georgia

iTrader: (3)

Garage List
Quote:
Originally Posted by AJerman View Post
Yeah, in the early development, the only thing they are really testing is the drivetrain. Then the shape will slowly come out, and finally little things like lights and mirrors and stuff will be changed. They do a pretty good job of hiding what exactly they are going to look like until they want you to see it.
Ah I see. Honestly, after this car I really want a GT-R provided it's not backordered for years, but I may go with a 6 series. If it looks like that 7 series picture, I'll look elsewhere.
__________________
2007 E92 Montego Blue 335i
Appreciate 0
      07-26-2008, 12:14 AM   #9
Epacy
Reincarnated
Epacy's Avatar
245
Rep
4,227
Posts

Drives: 02 Maxima SE
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: IL

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2008 M3  [0.00]
I think it does look much bigger. Seeing the E39 next to the E60 is quite a shock. Can't imagine the new 5 next to the E39. Way too big.
__________________
Appreciate 0
      07-26-2008, 12:59 AM   #10
krnshinsa
Captain
71
Rep
606
Posts

Drives: e92 335i
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: el ay

iTrader: (2)

so is this essentially the spy pics of the next gen 5 series? assuming the new m5 will have the new styling.....
Appreciate 0
      07-26-2008, 01:00 AM   #11
Krueger///M3
Major
Krueger///M3's Avatar
United_States
120
Rep
1,401
Posts

Drives: 2003 HPF 2.5, 2008 M3 (Sold)
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Pearl District, OR

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2002 BMW ///M3  [0.00]
2008 BMW ///M3  [0.00]
The E60 came out in '04, and BMW models last 7 years, why is the E60 only lasting 5 years? Unpopular? That means that the M5 will have only been out for 4 years, not 6.
Appreciate 0
      07-26-2008, 01:14 AM   #12
DougLikesBMW
Fapmin
DougLikesBMW's Avatar
399
Rep
2,660
Posts

Drives: '03 E46 330Ci
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Plano, Texas

iTrader: (0)

Good luck making the new 5 look better than the current gen. Unbeatable.
Appreciate 0
      07-26-2008, 03:23 AM   #13
Socale92
DCT Test Pilot
83
Rep
558
Posts

Drives: ????
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: los angeles

iTrader: (1)

when will the new m6 come out in relation to the new m5?
Appreciate 0
      07-26-2008, 03:57 AM   #14
Big Windy
Major General
Big Windy's Avatar
United_States
150
Rep
5,124
Posts

Drives: None
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Bay Area

iTrader: (0)

that thing looks like a fat cow.
Appreciate 0
      07-26-2008, 03:59 AM   #15
yazz
Lieutenant
yazz's Avatar
United_States
6
Rep
500
Posts

Drives: '06 330i
Join Date: May 2008
Location: LA

iTrader: (0)

i'm not feeling the new tail lights
Appreciate 0
      07-27-2008, 08:36 AM   #16
slipknot
Lieutenant
slipknot's Avatar
15
Rep
413
Posts

Drives: omega 2.5
Join Date: May 2008
Location: rotterdam

iTrader: (0)

it looks like 7series , if it 5er however its gonna be bigger....540hp just dont cut it , I still belive its gonna be V10twin turbo with more than RS6..around 500horses is how much u have in pencle sharpneners these days
Appreciate 0
      07-27-2008, 09:23 AM   #17
ksfrogman
Major General
ksfrogman's Avatar
United_States
570
Rep
6,750
Posts

Drives: E90 330i 6MT
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Torrance, CA

iTrader: (12)

Garage List
2006 330i  [0.00]
2006 330i  [0.00]
Here are a couple of WCF Photoshop renderings based on the CS concept:
Attached Images
  
__________________
Appreciate 0
      07-27-2008, 12:21 PM   #18
achenator
Lieutenant
26
Rep
549
Posts

Drives: 2017 LBB M2, 2017 R8+
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Louisiana

iTrader: (0)

Thats okay, the tuners will have a field day w/ a TT V8. 650+ at the wheels.
Appreciate 0
      07-27-2008, 09:58 PM   #19
gbelton
TheArchitect
gbelton's Avatar
United_States
23
Rep
252
Posts

Drives: The Ultimate Driving Machine
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Northeast

iTrader: (0)

that camouflaged vehicle looks like the 7 or the coming 8. :-)
__________________
Bleeds Blue!
Appreciate 0
      07-29-2008, 01:58 AM   #20
simp0man
Not looking 2 SPEED, just looking GOOD
simp0man's Avatar
Cambodia
45
Rep
2,516
Posts

Drives: 07 328i
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Stockton, Ca

iTrader: (1)

Garage List
2007 328i  [0.00]
I don't like the headlights look like IS250 but the taillights are nice.
__________________
Appreciate 0
      07-29-2008, 02:16 AM   #21
amazzzin
Guest
0
Rep
n/a
Posts

Drives:


I love the E60 M5.....sexonwheels
Appreciate 0
      07-29-2008, 11:28 AM   #22
dhan
Lieutenant
United_States
20
Rep
558
Posts

Drives: '11 TiAg E92 335i
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: SoCal

iTrader: (0)

i hope those orange things on the side mirrors aren't the actual colors of the turn signals
Appreciate 0
Post Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:11 AM.




m5post
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST