I bought a 2008 Lexus ES350 and now I can't stop thinking about the BMW 335xi

harrington · 08-05-2008, 05:37 AM

Don't get me wrong the Lexus ES350 is an awesome automobile but driving it is very boring to say the least. Just for the heck of it I took a ride in a 335xi and boy is this a fun car. I think my Lexus has far superior materials then BMW but The 335xi 6MT was a blast to drive. I know I have to wait a few years because I will take a major hit on my Lexus. My question is when will The 3 series get a complete makeover? I have heard it will be the 2012 model. Also I love reading this forum.

Bimmer007 · 08-05-2008, 07:52 AM

what do u expect, u bought a womans car

Stronie · 08-05-2008, 08:00 AM

J.P. · 08-05-2008, 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Bimmer007

what do u expect, u bought a womans car

+1

PLAYON · 08-05-2008, 08:07 AM

you slipped up, you should of sprung for the 335xi. . .life lesson #1.

mbmbm&w · 08-05-2008, 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Bimmer007

what do u expect, u bought a womans car

Which, for some of us, is an equally boring ride.

(This has always been a complaint with the Japan built lux autos. They rave about everything and then end with "but they have no personallity". Live and learn.)

BK · 08-05-2008, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Bimmer007

what do u expect, u bought a womans car

+2 I like most Lexuses, but I can't stand the ES or RX, at least for driving. They are real estate agent and soccer mom cars.

ianbiz · 08-05-2008, 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by harrington

Don't get me wrong the Lexus ES350 is an awesome automobile but driving it is very boring to say the least. Just for the heck of it I took a ride in a 335xi and boy is this a fun car. I think my Lexus has far superior materials then BMW but The 335xi 6MT was a blast to drive. I know I have to wait a few years because I will take a major hit on my Lexus. My question is when will The 3 series get a complete makeover? I have heard it will be the 2012 model. Also I love reading this forum.

Dont try to fool yourself.

Seminole · 08-05-2008, 08:42 AM

Just chalk this up as a lesson learned.

But to answer your question, yes. I've heard the 2012 model year as well, which means it will debut sometime in 2011. The 2009 model year is going to be a facelifted version of this generation. The only advice I can give is either to wait till 2012, your ES will last you till then and provide a reliable daily transport, or try to trade the ES on a year or two old 335xi for an even wash. GL to you with whatever you do.

TiAg335i · 08-05-2008, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by ianbiz

Dont try to fool yourself.

I also have the 2008 Lexus ES350 and I will definetly agree with the statement that the Lexus has far superior materials to BMW.

The whole car feels like a bank vault. Quiet, solid, smooth.

Drives like a boat but for just relaxing in luxury it is a very good car indeed.

Strongmad · 08-05-2008, 08:55 AM

I wouldn't regret your decision, Lexus makes some good cars. You are just going to get a bunch of response's here from 'enthusiasts' that will digg on Lexus to reaffirm their decision or to stroke their e-peen, or both.

I have had my 6 month old 335 in the shop 5 times, 3 times for a HPFP failure, I am on my fourth so far; some gasket on the turbo's, and my exhaust being installed improperly so the thing rattled. That was the nice thing about my 2001 IS300, I had it nearly 8 years and I only changed the oil, tires, and brakes. It was solid as a rock.

Strongmad · 08-05-2008, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by ianbiz

Dont try to fool yourself.

Tell this to the guys whose cars have turned into rattle traps, it doesn't happen on a Lexus.

GreenThree · 08-05-2008, 09:14 AM

Would have gotten the 335xi. No questions asked.

darkphantom · 08-05-2008, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by ianbiz

Dont try to fool yourself.

fan boy alert....

c'mon we've been over this.....

Germans build the car around the engine,

Japanese build the car around comfort/luxury...then look at the engine...

My 2002 ES 300 has a better navi than my 2007 335i...

the A/C works MUCH better...the controls are more intuitive....but in the end, it's a boat, and will never be as fun of a car as the E93...

StoneCold · 08-05-2008, 10:16 AM

Luxury and reliability in Lexus vs. Style and performance in Bimmer. You got to choose of which one to pick and stick with it. Just a thought.

i2iSTUDIOS · 08-05-2008, 10:20 AM

Nice Camry

wakeboarder109 · 08-05-2008, 10:25 AM

While I don't think you could compare the ES 350 and the 335 xi by any means, the ES has come a long way over the past few years. I worked at a Lexus Dealership last summer and was impressed at where the line is going. They're can hold their own on the highway at 100+ too.

STi2Three35i · 08-05-2008, 10:43 AM

Im not a big fan of lexus, but u can easily make that car look and sound good. Throw some tint on that bitch and dual Borla exhaust. Sounds sooo good.

Lexus def. drives like a boat though. I dont find that to be something thats appealing unless you like getting car sick and throwing up all over your interior.

victor328 · 08-05-2008, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by i2iSTUDIOS

Nice Camry

That's what I was going to say !! Isn't the ES just a Camry "dipped in gold" ?

Tondtar · 08-05-2008, 11:12 AM

I am saving my Lexus days until I am on Prozac one day. You can't beat the combo

Joonsup · 08-05-2008, 11:15 AM

The ES is basically a modded Camry in my opinion. The lines and styling look similar.

Tondtar · 08-05-2008, 11:16 AM

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That's what I was going to say !! Isn't the ES just a Camry "dipped in gold" ?

Correct ...ES350 is a glorified Camry with better chassis, interiors and different body style. Give BMW some credit - one the very few big car companies who does not do this "cross platform" production crap. Most European car companies were the same before GM and Ford bought many of them in the 90's and imported their evil corporate mentality into their design department. See what happened to Saab under GM's ownership and direction!

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Seminole Colonel 448 Rep 2,032 Posts Drives: Red Flyer Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: 38.8977° N, 77.0366° W iTrader: (2) Garage List 2008 E90 328i [7.00]	Just chalk this up as a lesson learned. But to answer your question, yes. I've heard the 2012 model year as well, which means it will debut sometime in 2011. The 2009 model year is going to be a facelifted version of this generation. The only advice I can give is either to wait till 2012, your ES will last you till then and provide a reliable daily transport, or try to trade the ES on a year or two old 335xi for an even wash. GL to you with whatever you do. __________________
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Strongmad Private First Class 13 Rep 139 Posts Drives: 335 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: nonja iTrader: (0)	I wouldn't regret your decision, Lexus makes some good cars. You are just going to get a bunch of response's here from 'enthusiasts' that will digg on Lexus to reaffirm their decision or to stroke their e-peen, or both. I have had my 6 month old 335 in the shop 5 times, 3 times for a HPFP failure, I am on my fourth so far; some gasket on the turbo's, and my exhaust being installed improperly so the thing rattled. That was the nice thing about my 2001 IS300, I had it nearly 8 years and I only changed the oil, tires, and brakes. It was solid as a rock.
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GreenThree Colonel 210 Rep 2,110 Posts Drives: 2011 e90 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Boston, MA iTrader: (0)	Would have gotten the 335xi. No questions asked. __________________ 2015 335xi \| Mineral Grey Metallic \| Black Dakota Leather \| NAV \| SportLine \| ZPP \| ZDA \| ZCW \| Munich Build Retired: 2008, 2011, 2013 328xi
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StoneCold Captain 13 Rep 623 Posts Drives: BMW 2008 328i Coupe, Pro 02/08 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Vancouver, WA iTrader: (1)	Luxury and reliability in Lexus vs. Style and performance in Bimmer. You got to choose of which one to pick and stick with it. Just a thought.
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wakeboarder109 Lieutenant Colonel 167 Rep 1,734 Posts Drives: in High Country Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: RVA iTrader: (3)	While I don't think you could compare the ES 350 and the 335 xi by any means, the ES has come a long way over the past few years. I worked at a Lexus Dealership last summer and was impressed at where the line is going. They're can hold their own on the highway at 100+ too.
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STi2Three35i Second Lieutenant 53 Rep 264 Posts Drives: 2008 335i Coupe-J.Black/C.Red Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Philly Burbs - Main Line iTrader: (0)	Im not a big fan of lexus, but u can easily make that car look and sound good. Throw some tint on that bitch and dual Borla exhaust. Sounds sooo good. Lexus def. drives like a boat though. I dont find that to be something thats appealing unless you like getting car sick and throwing up all over your interior.
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