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      07-12-2019, 08:52 PM   #1
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Keep having Apple Pay triggered!

Another annoyance I'm having with my non-wireless charging car, is that my iPhone keeps triggering Apple Pay sitting on the NFC tray.

First, I'm not sure how that got by quality control, and secondly, I'm not sure how that is rectified by BMW.

I don't even bother putting my phone in there now because it turns the screen on, and it won't turn off because it thinks it is in the presence of a pay point.

Anyone else having this problem?
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      07-13-2019, 01:36 PM   #2
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Indeed. Very annoying. Hopefully they will fix it but I doubt. It’s across all the bmw with digital key
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      07-13-2019, 04:09 PM   #3
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Yeah. Seriously wonder how that got past quality control. It is asinine.
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      07-13-2019, 05:19 PM   #4
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This is actually nothing to do with BMW and everything to do with Apple.

ApplePay first rolled out as being the only NFC functionality of the iPhone. As such, whenever an iPhone detects an NFC tag/area, ApplePay automatically pops up on the screen.

If you want to prevent your iPhone from exhibiting this behavior, follow the below steps:

https://lifehacker.com/how-to-stop-a...ent-1787003061
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      07-13-2019, 07:36 PM   #5
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What’s strange is every test drive vehicle did the same but my M340 has never triggered it. Wonder if something was fixed.
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      07-13-2019, 08:15 PM   #6
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This is actually nothing to do with BMW and everything to do with Apple.

ApplePay first rolled out as being the only NFC functionality of the iPhone. As such, whenever an iPhone detects an NFC tag/area, ApplePay automatically pops up on the screen.

If you want to prevent your iPhone from exhibiting this behavior, follow the below steps:

https://lifehacker.com/how-to-stop-a...ent-1787003061
I'll try that -- but I'm not double-clicking the home/side button.. It will randomly trigger in the NFC field if it is just sitting there. I'll turn it off and see if that keeps it from waking up.
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      07-14-2019, 11:05 AM   #7
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What’s strange is every test drive vehicle did the same but my M340 has never triggered it. Wonder if something was fixed.
If you have hotspot + wireless charging, you don't have NFC + key card, so that may also be it?
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      07-14-2019, 06:52 PM   #8
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If you have hotspot + wireless charging, you don't have NFC + key card, so that may also be it?
But I do have wireless charging and the key card.
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      07-14-2019, 08:18 PM   #9
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But I do have wireless charging and the key card.
Interesting. There have been a few posts indicating you either have one or the other, as the wireless charger ends up being where the NFC area is.
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      07-14-2019, 10:28 PM   #10
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No, I can definitely still use NFC in the same tray with the wireless charger option.

However, I speculate that it's a different piece of hardware--NFC reader vs NFC reader integrated into wireless charger. And therefore may behave a little different.

Edit: I shouldn't speak for others.

Last edited by JimmXinu; 07-14-2019 at 10:32 PM.. Reason: Correct pronouns.
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      07-15-2019, 07:51 AM   #11
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Interesting. There have been a few posts indicating you either have one or the other, as the wireless charger ends up being where the NFC area is.
All I can say is that I absolutely have wireless charging AND the card but I honestly don't know if there are different versions of the charger and / card.
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      07-15-2019, 08:42 PM   #12
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I can confirm that I have this same issue with my iPhone, and I don't have wireless charging.

I'm guessing that if the wireless charger detects a phone and gets activated, then either the NFC capability inside the pad is shut-off or perhaps the magnetic wave of the charger overpowers the NFC wave.
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      07-16-2019, 11:35 AM   #13
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Does this trigger if you don't have Apple Pay setup at all?
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      07-18-2019, 10:12 AM   #14
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Does this trigger if you don't have Apple Pay setup at all?
Yes. It sends you to the "Set up Apple Pay" screen.

Same deal for me. Both in iOS12 and the latest iOS13 Beta on my XSMax. AFAIK, there is no way to disable NFC in iOS. I use ApplePay regularly, so even if there was an option to disable NFC, I probably wouldn't.

It's unfortunate that there isn't some option to just disable NFC on the iDrive side since I have zero need for it in my car. If there was a connector to unplug or a wire to snip, I would.

I've chosen to just ignore it. The screen times out and goes back to sleep after a minute or so. I have no idea how often it wakes up on a long drive, but I've not noticed any significant battery drain because of it.

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This could be depending on both BMW and Apple.
Apple allows 3rd party apps to integrate with direct NFC reading of certain types of NFC tags. And NFC writing as well in iOS 13.
If the tag that's used for Digital Key is accessible by 3rd party apps, then ConnectedDrive can be updated to integrate with it directly to avoid being recognized by iOS system level as Apple Pay.
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      07-19-2019, 04:56 PM   #16
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Yes. It sends you to the "Set up Apple Pay" screen.

Same deal for me. Both in iOS12 and the latest iOS13 Beta on my XSMax. AFAIK, there is no way to disable NFC in iOS. I use ApplePay regularly, so even if there was an option to disable NFC, I probably wouldn't.

It's unfortunate that there isn't some option to just disable NFC on the iDrive side since I have zero need for it in my car. If there was a connector to unplug or a wire to snip, I would.

I've chosen to just ignore it. The screen times out and goes back to sleep after a minute or so. I have no idea how often it wakes up on a long drive, but I've not noticed any significant battery drain because of it.
Thanks, that'd be freaking annoying!
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