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      10-24-2019, 10:30 PM   #1
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winter tires, mounting each season

If I was buying I would just buy a set of wheels but since I am leasing for 3 years, I don't want to deal with trying to sell the winter wheels (always a pain). Any risk of re-mounting my summer/winters for 3 seasons (so each tire being mounted 3 times)? issues with tires or rims that is, if I have a professional shop do it.

I know it will cost me an extra $450-$500 over 3 years to keep doing it, but better than $2,000 for a set of winter wheels
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      10-24-2019, 10:51 PM   #2
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I've been doing this on my 340i for the past couple seasons and have had no real problems. There's just some leftover glue from the previous weights used balancing.

Of course you run the risk of having scratches introduced if it isn't done correctly every time.
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      10-24-2019, 11:40 PM   #3
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I've been doing this on my 340i for the past couple seasons and have had no real problems. There's just some leftover glue from the previous weights used balancing.

Of course you run the risk of having scratches introduced if it isn't done correctly every time.
same risk as every time you would get new tires, right?

hell my old C63 would chew thru tires every 8,000 miles, so I guess whats the difference between new tires every year and remounting these.

Is there any damage that can happen to the tires after remounting 3 times?
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      10-26-2019, 07:04 AM   #5
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The only thing I can think of is maybe extra wear on the tire sidewall from the repeated stretching to mount and remove.
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Do you known what winter tires for comp 21 wheels are available now on the market?
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      10-26-2019, 09:00 AM   #7
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Do you known what winter tires for comp 21 wheels are available now on the market?
I just ordered Pirelli Scorpion 255/40/21 & 265/40/21.

Seems to be the only one available for stock sizing
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Do you known what winter tires for comp 21 wheels are available now on the market?

Absolutely. The scorpion winters in oem size at tire rack. I'm running them on the factory rims already. One of the Michelens was damaged during transport, so we early mounted the winters to avoid delivery delays. Scorpion winters are very nice so far. I can't wait to try the Michelens in the spring!
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also mounted scorpion winters last week, really impressed
ride quality is vastly improved over the stock michelins
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I got nice, hub centric wheels for $550 Canadian for the set of 4. Check this thread for photos
https://g20.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...3#post25398033
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If I was buying I would just buy a set of wheels but since I am leasing for 3 years, I don't want to deal with trying to sell the winter wheels (always a pain). Any risk of re-mounting my summer/winters for 3 seasons (so each tire being mounted 3 times)? issues with tires or rims that is, if I have a professional shop do it.

I know it will cost me an extra $450-$500 over 3 years to keep doing it, but better than $2,000 for a set of winter wheels
Northwest Colorado here and been leasing,swapping tires seasonally for 10 yrs...
Works out fine! Did the last 3 yrs. with X5 swapping out between summer and winter with same rims....

Even with the 21"s on my new X4M will have Scorpion Winters put on Thursday.
Dealer swaps and stores tires for 180 a year.
When leasing we went with tire and wheel package as well as the lease protection package! With these there's no worry.
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      10-30-2019, 03:00 PM   #12
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Northwest Colorado here and been leasing,swapping tires seasonally for 10 yrs...
Works out fine! Did the last 3 yrs. with X5 swapping out between summer and winter with same rims....

Even with the 21"s on my new X4M will have Scorpion Winters put on Thursday.
Dealer swaps and stores tires for 180 a year.
When leasing we went with tire and wheel package as well as the lease protection package! With these there's no worry.
good to hear, I should have done the same, 1-3 inches of snow tomorrow in the forecast, guess I will see how bad the summers really are as I won't be able to get winters in time.

One factor is the cost of the tire swap, discount tire for example is $85 each time and I don't think that includes the tpms rebuild kit which most tire places insist you purchase each time. so thats $85x6 swaps = $510, vs $0 if I buy the tires from them as they will change the full sets for free every season.
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Northwest Colorado here and been leasing,swapping tires seasonally for 10 yrs...
Works out fine! Did the last 3 yrs. with X5 swapping out between summer and winter with same rims....

Even with the 21"s on my new X4M will have Scorpion Winters put on Thursday.
Dealer swaps and stores tires for 180 a year.
When leasing we went with tire and wheel package as well as the lease protection package! With these there's no worry.
good to hear, I should have done the same, 1-3 inches of snow tomorrow in the forecast, guess I will see how bad the summers really are as I won't be able to get winters in time.

One factor is the cost of the tire swap, discount tire for example is $85 each time and I don't think that includes the tpms rebuild kit which most tire places insist you purchase each time. so thats $85x6 swaps = $510, vs $0 if I buy the tires from them as they will change the full sets for free every season.
Did you drive it today ?

Local weather here today is rough
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      10-31-2019, 05:33 PM   #14
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Northwest Colorado here and been leasing,swapping tires seasonally for 10 yrs...
Works out fine! Did the last 3 yrs. with X5 swapping out between summer and winter with same rims....

Even with the 21"s on my new X4M will have Scorpion Winters put on Thursday.
Dealer swaps and stores tires for 180 a year.
When leasing we went with tire and wheel package as well as the lease protection package! With these there's no worry.
good to hear, I should have done the same, 1-3 inches of snow tomorrow in the forecast, guess I will see how bad the summers really are as I won't be able to get winters in time.

One factor is the cost of the tire swap, discount tire for example is $85 each time and I don't think that includes the tpms rebuild kit which most tire places insist you purchase each time. so thats $85x6 swaps = $510, vs $0 if I buy the tires from them as they will change the full sets for free every season.
Did you drive it today ?

Local weather here today is rough
One inch of snow is tough lmfaooooo
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Is there a specific reason BMW does not have an all season factory staggered option available for the X3MC or why they picked this staggered configuration with zero all season tire options? Bmw won't even let you downgrade to the 20's which have plenty of all season tires available in a staggered setup. The amg Gle 63, Porsche cayenne turbo/ cayenne S, and even the 2020 BMW Alpina B7 have all season factory tire options you can select or after market tires available. What the hell was bmw thinking this is an sav/suv not a summer only M3/M4 sports car.
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Is there a specific reason BMW does not have an all season factory staggered option available for the X3MC or why they picked this staggered configuration with zero all season tire options? Bmw won't even let you downgrade to the 20's which have plenty of all season tires available in a staggered setup. The amg Gle 63, Porsche cayenne turbo/ cayenne S, and even the 2020 BMW Alpina B7 have all season factory tire options you can select or after market tires available. What the hell was bmw thinking this is an sav/suv not a summer only M3/M4 sports car.
all ///M cars have performance tires. they're meant for ultimate performance so no all season tires. I chose to put wider, performance all season on my X3M so I don't have to swap out wheels/tires twice a year as I did with my previous rides. the only reason why I was able to do this is cuz of AWD. my previous rides were all RWD so dedicated winter tires were necessary here in Chicago.
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Anyway, All season suck big time during winter!
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Anyone know if there are issues running 255 width on the 21" rear wheels (10" width).

would save about $140.00 to go 255 all around vs 255/265, for $50 I wouldn't care but $140 for a tiny bit of extra width seems silly.

right now I am leaning to remounting each season.
$1128 at discount tire plus $80 each time to remount for 255/40/21

if I got a 20" wheel/tire set from tire rack its $2467 for a decent looking wheel
so even paying $480 over the next 3 years (lease) I would be saving $859. The wheels are $1385 new with the tpms, I doubt I could get over $800 for them used when lease is over, generic wheels not OEM...

only question is if I really like the car and get another one, then I will be pissed I didn't get wheels, LOL seriously doubt these will fit on the new M3 which is what I would most likely get when lease is over.
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Anyone know if there are issues running 255 width on the 21" rear wheels (10" width).

would save about $140.00 to go 255 all around vs 255/265, for $50 I wouldn't care but $140 for a tiny bit of extra width seems silly.

right now I am leaning to remounting each season.
$1128 at discount tire plus $80 each time to remount for 255/40/21

if I got a 20" wheel/tire set from tire rack its $2467 for a decent looking wheel
so even paying $480 over the next 3 years (lease) I would be saving $859. The wheels are $1385 new with the tpms, I doubt I could get over $800 for them used when lease is over, generic wheels not OEM...

only question is if I really like the car and get another one, then I will be pissed I didn't get wheels, LOL seriously doubt these will fit on the new M3 which is what I would most likely get when lease is over.
255/40/21 will fit on 8.5-10" wheels so you should be fine but I thought the rear rim width was 9.5" not 10"
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255/40/21 will fit on 8.5-10" wheels so you should be fine but I thought the rear rim width was 9.5" not 10"
9.5 front
10 back
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Call me crazy but I think there will be 19" aftermarket that will clear.

Is this 5x120 bolt pattern?
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255/40/21 will fit on 8.5-10" wheels so you should be fine but I thought the rear rim width was 9.5" not 10"
9.5 front
10 back
yup, ur right 10" rear. 255 will fit with a little stretch
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