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      11-02-2019, 09:55 AM   #1
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Shift Points MIA? (X3MC)

Morning. Could someone chime in & advise if the shift points are working in your vehicle, either in the instrument cluster (in the tach area) or via the HUD?

According to the manual, set-up is dead simple, but I've tried every possible combination and no bueno. The only thing I can think of is that the vehicle needs to be past the 2k kms/1.2 mile point to be active, but that wouldn't really make any sense.

If you wouldn't mind posting your prod date as well? Mine was mid-June.

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The demo X4MC I had for a bit was working. The rings on the dash tach lighting up from the inside and spreading out, it also worked on the HUD in M view. That car has about 3k on the clock and the break-in service was completed.

You could be onto something with needing break-in, which I think is odd because you should probably alert drivers that the revs are getting high while still under break-in LOL

Are you mashing the gas to floor and the car is in manual shift mode? The lights won't light up if you are gently revving it up.

I'm taking delivery of my X4MC this afternoon, I'll give it a boot and let you know if it shows up

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The demo X4MC I had for a bit was working. The rings on the dash tach lighting up from the inside and spreading out, it also worked on the HUD in M view. That car has about 3k on the clock and the break-in service was completed.

You could be onto something with needing break-in, which I think is odd because you should probably alert drivers that the revs are getting high while still under break-in LOL

Are you mashing the gas to floor and the car is in manual shift mode? The lights won't light up if you are gently revving it up.

I'm taking delivery of my X4MC this after ournoon, I'll give it a boot and let you know if it shows up
Thanks very much for the response. My thoughts exactly re: (possibly) licking this feature out until the break-in period is completed...you would think the shifts lights would be helpful lol...

In any case, good luck with your delivery! And if u u get a chance, let me about the shift lights.

Definitely not mashing it, but pushing up the revs for sure...
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You have to be pretty much giving full throttle and getting near top of rev range to activate the lights.
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You have to be pretty much giving full throttle and getting near top of rev range to activate the lights.
Ok thanks for that. In which case I'll probably wait until the break-in is done.
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Tried it last evening. No-go. Even in low 2nd gear, high rev, no shift lights. So either a software issue, or has something to do with 2kms break-in period. Beyond that, stumped.
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Tried it last evening. No-go. Even in low 2nd gear, high rev, no shift lights. So either a software issue, or has something to do with 2kms break-in period. Beyond that, stumped.
As someone else said, you need to be full throttle and very close to red line before the shift lights come on.
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Tried it last evening. No-go. Even in low 2nd gear, high rev, no shift lights. So either a software issue, or has something to do with 2kms break-in period. Beyond that, stumped.
As someone else said, you need to be full throttle and very close to red line before the shift lights come on.
Interesting. Curious why you would need to wind it up to (near) redline. Seems counter-intuitive to NOT reving the engine beyond ~4k rpm during break-in.

I had a performance wheel in my 235 and you definitely didn't need to wind it up to redline for the shift lights to kick in.

In any case, we'll see in 2kms...if near readline is the requirement to make this work, I won't be using it.
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I remember seeing somewhere that the shift lights on the dash won't be active if the M-Hud is active (as you can already see when to shift via that). Same as the F90 M5 I think?
Try turning the HUD off for a minute and take the revs up hard...
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I remember seeing somewhere that the shift lights on the dash won't be active if the M-Hud is active (as you can already see when to shift via that). Same as the F90 M5 I think?
Try turning the HUD off for a minute and take the revs up hard...
Thanks for the tip, but I've tried that as well. All sorts of combinations even through the manual says it's the dash or the HUD - not trying to get it to show up in both locations.

No worries, we'll see what happens at 2kms if anything. Failing that, dealer will take a look. I had stopped by the dealer yesterday and they're stumped as well.

In the end, didn't buy the vehicle for this feature so won't be losing any sleep lol

Thanks for replies guys
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Tried it last evening. No-go. Even in low 2nd gear, high rev, no shift lights. So either a software issue, or has something to do with 2kms break-in period. Beyond that, stumped.
As someone else said, you need to be full throttle and very close to red line before the shift lights come on.
Interesting. Curious why you would need to wind it up to (near) redline. Seems counter-intuitive to NOT reving the engine beyond ~4k rpm during break-in.

I had a performance wheel in my 235 and you definitely didn't need to wind it up to redline for the shift lights to kick in.

In any case, we'll see in 2kms...if near readline is the requirement to make this work, I won't be using it.
Well if you think about it, the whole purpose of the lights is to indicate the need to shift before red line. So it makes sense that they only activate when you are rapidly approaching that area.
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Morning. Could someone chime in & advise if the shift points are working in your vehicle, either in the instrument cluster (in the tach area) or via the HUD? According to the manual, set-up is dead simple, but I've tried every possible combination and no bueno. The only thing I can think of is that the vehicle needs to be past the 2k kms/1.2 mile point to be active, but that wouldn't really make any sense...
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Tried it last evening. No-go. Even in low 2nd gear, high rev, no shift lights. So either a software issue, or has something to do with 2kms break-in period. Beyond that, stumped.
Just to clarify, BMW's formal 'Breaking-in' period completes at 5,000 km (3,100 miles), not 2,000 km (1,200 miles). The 1,200 mile service is just performed during this period. Not sure if that has anything to do with your issue, but I share only because I was confused with the 1,200 mile Svc as being the 'let-loose' point, when clearly BMW suggests it is not (after I finally got around to reading their recs).
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Morning. Could someone chime in & advise if the shift points are working in your vehicle, either in the instrument cluster (in the tach area) or via the HUD? According to the manual, set-up is dead simple, but I've tried every possible combination and no bueno. The only thing I can think of is that the vehicle needs to be past the 2k kms/1.2 mile point to be active, but that wouldn't really make any sense...
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Tried it last evening. No-go. Even in low 2nd gear, high rev, no shift lights. So either a software issue, or has something to do with 2kms break-in period. Beyond that, stumped.
Just to clarify, BMW's formal 'Breaking-in' period completes at 5,000 km (3,100 miles), not 2,000 km (1,200 miles). The 1,200 mile service is just performed during this period. Not sure if that has anything to do with your issue, but I share only because I was confused with the 1,200 mile Svc as being the 'let-loose' point, when clearly BMW suggests it is not (after I finally got around to reading their recs).
Duly noted, thanks
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Tried it last evening. No-go. Even in low 2nd gear, high rev, no shift lights. So either a software issue, or has something to do with 2kms break-in period. Beyond that, stumped.
As someone else said, you need to be full throttle and very close to red line before the shift lights come on.
Interesting. Curious why you would need to wind it up to (near) redline. Seems counter-intuitive to NOT reving the engine beyond ~4k rpm during break-in.

I had a performance wheel in my 235 and you definitely didn't need to wind it up to redline for the shift lights to kick in.

In any case, we'll see in 2kms...if near readline is the requirement to make this work, I won't be using it.
Well if you think about it, the whole purpose of the lights is to indicate the need to shift before red line. So it makes sense that they only activate when you are rapidly approaching that area.
The images in the manual might suggest otherwise.
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I tried on my X3MC , while in manual mode shifting with paddles,it worked like a charm . I did NOT have the M-HUD displayed. really sneaks up on you fast ,engine revs so quickly especially in lower gears.
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I tried on my X3MC , while in manual mode shifting with paddles,it worked like a charm . I did NOT have the M-HUD displayed. really sneaks up on you fast ,engine revs so quickly especially in lower gears.
Thanks. How many miles on yours? And did you have the shift points before the break in period was up?

Also, did you need to (almost) redline it? Or say rev up only to ~5krpm in any gear and the shift light went from yellow to red?
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I tried on my X3MC , while in manual mode shifting with paddles,it worked like a charm . I did NOT have the M-HUD displayed. really sneaks up on you fast ,engine revs so quickly especially in lower gears.
Confirmed myself too today. Turned HUD off, and shift lights show up on dash when you approach redline in manual mode. Nothing to do with break in period.

OP - you will NOT see this work if you are only revving up to 5,000 RPM. That is too soon to be considering a warning for a shift on a high revving engine like the S58. Turn the HUD offf and take the revs to redline in manual mode.

Check out the latest Straight Pipes X4M video on YouTube where they actually reference using the shift-light feature as one of them doesn't like having the HUD on.
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I tried on my X3MC , while in manual mode shifting with paddles,it worked like a charm . I did NOT have the M-HUD displayed. really sneaks up on you fast ,engine revs so quickly especially in lower gears.
Confirmed myself too today. Turned HUD off, and shift lights show up on dash when you approach redline in manual mode. Nothing to do with break in period.

OP - you will NOT see this work if you are only revving up to 5,000 RPM. That is too soon to be considering a warning for a shift on a high revving engine like the S58. Turn the HUD offf and take the revs to redline in manual mode.

Check out the latest Straight Pipes X4M video on YouTube where they actually reference using the shift-light feature as one of them doesn't like having the HUD on.
Ok will do. Thanks for the replies everyone. I'll wait for the break in period (whether that's 2kms or 5kms lol).

Out of curiosity, both of you are suggesting no hud display, only instrument panel. Is there a reason? I thought it worked in both locations?

In any case, thanks again everyone.
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I tried on my X3MC , while in manual mode shifting with paddles,it worked like a charm . I did NOT have the M-HUD displayed. really sneaks up on you fast ,engine revs so quickly especially in lower gears.
Confirmed myself too today. Turned HUD off, and shift lights show up on dash when you approach redline in manual mode. Nothing to do with break in period.

OP - you will NOT see this work if you are only revving up to 5,000 RPM. That is too soon to be considering a warning for a shift on a high revving engine like the S58. Turn the HUD offf and take the revs to redline in manual mode.

Check out the latest Straight Pipes X4M video on YouTube where they actually reference using the shift-light feature as one of them doesn't like having the HUD on.
Ok will do. Thanks for the replies everyone. I'll wait for the break in period (whether that's 2kms or 5kms lol).

Out of curiosity, both of you are suggesting no hud display, only instrument panel. Is there a reason? I thought it worked in both locations?

In any case, thanks again everyone.
If you are in M hud mode with the tach in the hud then you will see the shift lights in the hud but not on the dash tach. If you are not in M hud mode then the shift lights in the dash tach are what you will see.

Dude at this point just go out and floor the gas pedal and don't let up so you can finally see the shift lights lol
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sorry for slow response, HUD can be on but not in M display mode. it will work in manual mode. probably better to use shift lights on HUD ,your eyes stay pretty much on the road
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I tried on my X3MC , while in manual mode shifting with paddles,it worked like a charm . I did NOT have the M-HUD displayed. really sneaks up on you fast ,engine revs so quickly especially in lower gears.
Confirmed myself too today. Turned HUD off, and shift lights show up on dash when you approach redline in manual mode. Nothing to do with break in period.

OP - you will NOT see this work if you are only revving up to 5,000 RPM. That is too soon to be considering a warning for a shift on a high revving engine like the S58. Turn the HUD offf and take the revs to redline in manual mode.

Check out the latest Straight Pipes X4M video on YouTube where they actually reference using the shift-light feature as one of them doesn't like having the HUD on.
Ok will do. Thanks for the replies everyone. I'll wait for the break in period (whether that's 2kms or 5kms lol).

Out of curiosity, both of you are suggesting no hud display, only instrument panel. Is there a reason? I thought it worked in both locations?

In any case, thanks again everyone.
If you are in M hud mode with the tach in the hud then you will see the shift lights in the hud but not on the dash tach. If you are not in M hud mode then the shift lights in the dash tach are what you will see.

Dude at this point just go out and floor the gas pedal and don't let up so you can finally see the shift lights lol
Lol yep. I can give a shot on the way to work in the morning
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sorry for slow response, HUD can be on but not in M display mode. it will work in manual mode. probably better to use shift lights on HUD ,your eyes stay pretty much on the road
Got it thanks guys
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