[Phatcat]

Enjoy.

[Flashstar]

She is heavy. Four-wheel drive and other. But even for such a weight, this is an excellent result at the ring. But the fact that times are better than Nissan GTR I honestly did not expect.

[Phatcat]

Originally Posted by Flashstar

She is heavy. Four-wheel drive and other. But even for such a weight, this is an excellent result at the ring. But the fact that times are better than Nissan GTR I honestly did not expect.

It also meant chassis engineering and tires matters and manufacturers are definitely not standing still.

Time for a new GTR.

[Wolfman64]

This article was a great read. Thanks!

For one, this is from Sport Auto which has become the authority on getting the best real-life performance out of cars on the Nurburgring. Pretty unbiased, trustworthy numbers and excellent feedback on the cars themselves. Especially Christian Gebhardt; I take his numbers over any factory driver...

Things that stand out is that the M8c isn't just the fastest BMW ever tested but also the most neutral and stable BMW at the limit to date, bypassing all other M cars including the recent M4 GTS.

The transmission also uses a different shift logic than the M5. They had to manually shift the M5c on the Nurburgring due to high latency in automatic while this time they used auto for upshifts and downshifted manually.

To my surprise, this also wasn't a particularly underrated engine, the Dyno was within 2HP of stock.

Btw, they Nurburgring settings were: DSC off, 4WD, engine, suspension, steering and braking in Sport mode.
He considered Sport mode better on the track than Sport Plus
He seemed to be very pleased with the brake by wire system in the M8

Overall, reading the comments I feel the M8 did better than just run a great time.

Would love to see the car loose some weight, but I wonder how it would do with just an ECU tune, some lightweight forged rims and Cup 2 tires.

[Flashstar]

Originally Posted by Phatcat

It also meant chassis engineering and tires matters and manufacturers are definitely not standing still.

Time for a new GTR.

It's true.

[Ehloo]

That color is amazing on the m8

[Neptune7]

Originally Posted by Wolfman64

This article was a great read. Thanks!

For one, this is from Sport Auto which has become the authority on getting the best real-life performance out of cars on the Nurburgring. Pretty unbiased, trustworthy numbers and excellent feedback on the cars themselves. Especially Christian Gebhardt; I take his numbers over any factory driver...

Things that stand out is that the M8c isn't just the fastest BMW ever tested but also the most neutral and stable BMW at the limit to date, bypassing all other M cars including the recent M4 GTS.

The transmission also uses a different shift logic than the M5. They had to manually shift the M5c on the Nurburgring due to high latency in automatic while this time they used auto for upshifts and downshifted manually.

To my surprise, this also wasn't a particularly underrated engine, the Dyno was within 2HP of stock.

Btw, they Nurburgring settings were: DSC off, 4WD, engine, suspension, steering and braking in Sport mode.
He considered Sport mode better on the track than Sport Plus
He seemed to be very pleased with the brake by wire system in the M8

Overall, reading the comments I feel the M8 did better than just run a great time.

Would love to see the car loose some weight, but I wonder how it would do with just an ECU tune, some lightweight forged rims and Cup 2 tires.

You basically described the future M8 CS, likely out in the next year or two

[Hampi]

Tuners like AC Schnitzer etc. will sure do a great job in making the M8 even faster in the very near future. This is going to be interesting

[RJC-1]

Glad you guys can read it, is there a link so I can use google to translate?

[RJC-1]

Originally Posted by Hampi

Tuners like AC Schnitzer etc. will sure do a great job in making the M8 even faster in the very near future. This is going to be interesting

See you're in Switzerland...our favorite country simply (beyond beautiful) and culture (no nonsense and well reserved) also luv St Moritz, can't get enough of it!

[Wolfman64]

Originally Posted by RJC-1

Glad you guys can read it, is there a link so I can use google to translate?

I think Phatcat uses the digital subscription of AMS or Sport Auto. I am too cheap to buy the subscription or articles...

There is a translate service for images that should work with these but haven't tried that.

[RJC-1]

Originally Posted by Wolfman64

I think Phatcat uses the digital subscription of AMS or Sport Auto. I am too cheap to buy the subscription or articles...

There is a translate service for images that should work with these but haven't tried that.

Thanks, saw your comments, you read German well. Also interesting about the dyno #'s not being underrated like the M850's, but if it wasn't conducted on the same type of dyno (Mustang in the M850's case) therein may lie the rub...

[Wolfman64]

Originally Posted by RJC-1

Thanks, saw your comments, you read German well. Also interesting about the dyno #'s not being underrated like the M850's, but if it wasn't conducted on the same type of dyno (Mustang in the M850's case) therein may lie the rub...

They used the MAHA dyno for this and other tests. Highly regarded dynos from what I read.
I was surprised how close the car is to stock... Do we have anyone here that actually put their M8c on a dyno?

[Slayerkillhate]

I run on mustang dyno 677hp on M8c

[RJC-1]

Originally Posted by Slayerkillhate

I run on mustang dyno 677hp on M8c

any mods?

[Phatcat]

Originally Posted by Wolfman64

I think Phatcat uses the digital subscription of AMS or Sport Auto. I am too cheap to buy the subscription or articles...

There is a translate service for images that should work with these but haven't tried that.

Yep I have digital subscription. They used to include plain text which you can just copy and paste into google translate but unfortunately it seems like not enough foreign subscribers so they stop doing it since two years ago.

[Slayerkillhate]

Originally Posted by RJC-1

any mods?

Full stock

[Flashstar]

Originally Posted by Slayerkillhate

Full stock

Yes and no. I think they did a little work with the suspension. This is purely my personal opinion. Electronics can also be changed before race, and then returned to stock.

[RJC-1]

Originally Posted by Slayerkillhate

Full stock

Thanks, this means the % gains over stock are far greater for the M850, truly a performance bargain