F30POST
F30POST
2012-2015 BMW 3-Series and 4-Series Forum
BMW Garage BMW Meets Register Today's Posts
BMW 3-Series and 4-Series Forum (F30 / F32) | F30POST > Technical Forums > N20, N26, B46, B48 Turbo Engine / Drivetrain / Exhaust Modifications > N20 full FBO BM3 STAGE 2
Extreme Powerhouse
Post Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      12-24-2020, 11:50 AM   #1
Honeybadger23
Private First Class
37
Rep
146
Posts

Drives: 2012 f30 328i sportline
Join Date: Feb 2020
Location: Texas

iTrader: (0)

N20 full FBO BM3 STAGE 2

I have full bolt ons
On my n20 ewg

Thoughts on going stage 2?

Is it really safe?


Mods
Moshimoto performance intercooler
Moshimoto performance intake
FTP charge pipe and boost pipe
Gfb diverter valve
Catless downpipe
Appreciate 1
sspade2467.00
      12-24-2020, 02:37 PM   #2
j.f.leonard
Lieutenant
j.f.leonard's Avatar
United_States
218
Rep
576
Posts

Drives: 2012 328i f30
Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: north carolina

iTrader: (1)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Honeybadger23 View Post
I have full bolt ons
On my n20 ewg

Thoughts on going stage 2?

Is it really safe?


Mods
Moshimoto performance intercooler
Moshimoto performance intake
FTP charge pipe and boost pipe
Gfb diverter valve
Catless downpipe
As far as i know as long as your timing chain and guide is the updated version you should be good to go. I know multiple people that are or were FBO with BM3 stage 2.
Appreciate 0
      12-24-2020, 03:33 PM   #3
Honeybadger23
Private First Class
37
Rep
146
Posts

Drives: 2012 f30 328i sportline
Join Date: Feb 2020
Location: Texas

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by j.f.leonard View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by Honeybadger23 View Post
I have full bolt ons
On my n20 ewg

Thoughts on going stage 2?

Is it really safe?


Mods
Moshimoto performance intercooler
Moshimoto performance intake
FTP charge pipe and boost pipe
Gfb diverter valve
Catless downpipe
As far as i know as long as your timing chain and guide is the updated version you should be good to go. I know multiple people that are or were FBO with BM3 stage 2.
Gotcha.
Yes my n20 is the updated one
No oil consumption
Timing chain guides updated
Appreciate 1
rcaso26331.00
      12-24-2020, 05:17 PM   #4
sqwinny
Major
United_States
484
Rep
1,066
Posts

Drives: 2013 6MT 328i M Sport
Join Date: Mar 2019
Location: Miami

iTrader: (3)

You'll be fine. Have been running stage 2 100% fbo with no issues. Fuel pump if it's going out or weak will show with the increase in boost from the tune. That's the extent. It's addicting to say the least.

My mod list:
Active autowerk n55 rear muffler
Removed resonator
eBay downpipe
FTP turbo to intercooler pipe
FTP intercooler to throtttle body (charge pipe) pipe
FTP turbo inlet
ATM intercooler
Turner Motorsport turbo inlet to oem air box pipe
Afe grill ram air scoop
GFB diverter valve upgrade
Fuel It stage 2 fuel pump (dodge hellcat fuel pump [supports 600whp e85 or 675whp pump gas])
Precision raceworks coil pack upgrade
Bootmod3 OTS stage 2 e30 tune
__________________
MY13: TTE400 Stage 2 turbo.
e80 tune by Navardi Tuned. 380 whp/360 wheel torque stock block
Build Thread: https://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1742413
IG + YT: Sqwin_n20
Appreciate 0
      12-24-2020, 05:33 PM   #5
Honeybadger23
Private First Class
37
Rep
146
Posts

Drives: 2012 f30 328i sportline
Join Date: Feb 2020
Location: Texas

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by sqwinny View Post
You'll be fine. Have been running stage 2 100% fbo with no issues. Fuel pump if it's going out or weak will show with the increase in boost from the tune. That's the extent. It's addicting to say the least.

My mod list:
Active autowerk n55 rear muffler
Removed resonator
eBay downpipe
FTP turbo to intercooler pipe
FTP intercooler to throtttle body (charge pipe) pipe
FTP turbo inlet
ATM intercooler
Turner Motorsport turbo inlet to oem air box pipe
Afe grill ram air scoop
GFB diverter valve upgrade
Fuel It stage 2 fuel pump (dodge hellcat fuel pump [supports 600whp e85 or 675whp pump gas])
Precision raceworks coil pack upgrade
Bootmod3 OTS stage 2 e30 tune
Sweet thanks for the insight.

Since I've been on stage 2
My cel keeps coming on.
I checked to make I have cel options selected on my OTS map.

Don't know why it's still pulling a cat code still.

Any thoughts?
Appreciate 0
      12-24-2020, 05:45 PM   #6
sqwinny
Major
United_States
484
Rep
1,066
Posts

Drives: 2013 6MT 328i M Sport
Join Date: Mar 2019
Location: Miami

iTrader: (3)

Reflash your tune. At the bottom of the selection when you choose download and flash, there with be an option to Flash and diag. That should do the trick.
__________________
MY13: TTE400 Stage 2 turbo.
e80 tune by Navardi Tuned. 380 whp/360 wheel torque stock block
Build Thread: https://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1742413
IG + YT: Sqwin_n20
Appreciate 0
      12-24-2020, 05:52 PM   #7
Honeybadger23
Private First Class
37
Rep
146
Posts

Drives: 2012 f30 328i sportline
Join Date: Feb 2020
Location: Texas

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by sqwinny View Post
Reflash your tune. At the bottom of the selection when you choose download and flash, there with be an option to Flash and diag. That should do the trick.
Sweet thanks!!
I'll give it a try
Appreciate 0
      12-24-2020, 06:46 PM   #8
GreenF30N26
Lieutenant
GreenF30N26's Avatar
153
Rep
414
Posts

Drives: F30 328ix N26
Join Date: Mar 2019
Location: canada

iTrader: (0)

If you have a CEL with stage 2 it's not from your cat. BM3 automatically disables CEL checks from the cat on stage 2 regardless of your app settings since 95% of people using stage 2 go with a catless downpipe. If after flashing back to stock and back to stage 2 doesn't clear the CEL open a ticket with PTF and send them your logs.
Appreciate 0
      12-24-2020, 09:48 PM   #9
Honeybadger23
Private First Class
37
Rep
146
Posts

Drives: 2012 f30 328i sportline
Join Date: Feb 2020
Location: Texas

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenF30N26 View Post
If you have a CEL with stage 2 it's not from your cat. BM3 automatically disables CEL checks from the cat on stage 2 regardless of your app settings since 95% of people using stage 2 go with a catless downpipe. If after flashing back to stock and back to stage 2 doesn't clear the CEL open a ticket with PTF and send them your logs.
It worked.

Went to my stock tune. Then back to stage 2.
. No issues.

And my car is fast as hell!


Thanks!
Appreciate 0
      12-26-2020, 08:20 AM   #10
Honeybadger23
Private First Class
37
Rep
146
Posts

Drives: 2012 f30 328i sportline
Join Date: Feb 2020
Location: Texas

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Honeybadger23 View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenF30N26 View Post
If you have a CEL with stage 2 it's not from your cat. BM3 automatically disables CEL checks from the cat on stage 2 regardless of your app settings since 95% of people using stage 2 go with a catless downpipe. If after flashing back to stock and back to stage 2 doesn't clear the CEL open a ticket with PTF and send them your logs.
It worked.

Went to my stock tune. Then back to stage 2.
. No issues.

And my car is fast as hell!


Thanks!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Honeybadger23 View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenF30N26 View Post
If you have a CEL with stage 2 it's not from your cat. BM3 automatically disables CEL checks from the cat on stage 2 regardless of your app settings since 95% of people using stage 2 go with a catless downpipe. If after flashing back to stock and back to stage 2 doesn't clear the CEL open a ticket with PTF and send them your logs.
It worked.

Went to my stock tune. Then back to stage 2.
. No issues.

And my car is fast as hell!


Thanks!



Code came back again.
My o2 sensors are not in the catless downpipe.

Will that cause an issue?
Appreciate 0
      12-26-2020, 09:18 AM   #11
Fronttwelv
First Lieutenant
Fronttwelv's Avatar
United_States
150
Rep
361
Posts

Drives: 14 328i xdrive msport
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Columbus, OH

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Honeybadger23 View Post
I have full bolt ons
On my n20 ewg

Thoughts on going stage 2?

Is it really safe?


Mods
Moshimoto performance intercooler
Moshimoto performance intake
FTP charge pipe and boost pipe
Gfb diverter valve
Catless downpipe
Going stage two seems like a lot of risk for low reward. You're taking the N20 closer to its limit for like 10 more horsepowers. Ppl claim to feel a big difference but do they really? Stage one with a nice exhaust seems to be the sweet spot for this platform.
__________________
Present: 2014 f30 328xi MSport, 1992 VW GTi VR6 swapped
Past: 2010 335i 6 speed; 2008 VW GTi stage 2, 2004 Subie WRX FBO, 2003 20th Anny VW GTi FBO
Appreciate 0
      12-26-2020, 10:42 AM   #12
GreenF30N26
Lieutenant
GreenF30N26's Avatar
153
Rep
414
Posts

Drives: F30 328ix N26
Join Date: Mar 2019
Location: canada

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fronttwelv View Post
Going stage two seems like a lot of risk for low reward. You're taking the N20 closer to its limit for like 10 more horsepowers. Ppl claim to feel a big difference but do they really? Stage one with a nice exhaust seems to be the sweet spot for this platform.
Which N20 are you talking about? 20i or 28i?
Appreciate 0
      12-26-2020, 10:51 AM   #13
Fronttwelv
First Lieutenant
Fronttwelv's Avatar
United_States
150
Rep
361
Posts

Drives: 14 328i xdrive msport
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Columbus, OH

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenF30N26 View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fronttwelv View Post
Going stage two seems like a lot of risk for low reward. You're taking the N20 closer to its limit for like 10 more horsepowers. Ppl claim to feel a big difference but do they really? Stage one with a nice exhaust seems to be the sweet spot for this platform.
Which N20 are you talking about? 20i or 28i?
28
__________________
Present: 2014 f30 328xi MSport, 1992 VW GTi VR6 swapped
Past: 2010 335i 6 speed; 2008 VW GTi stage 2, 2004 Subie WRX FBO, 2003 20th Anny VW GTi FBO
Appreciate 0
      12-27-2020, 12:53 AM   #14
ScottSmith
Private First Class
30
Rep
105
Posts

Drives: BMW E46 N20
Join Date: Jul 2020
Location: California

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by sqwinny View Post
eBay downpipe
Have you checked the inner liner on your downpipe?
https://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1771209
Mine turned into a major restrictor.
Appreciate 0
      12-27-2020, 12:15 PM   #15
sqwinny
Major
United_States
484
Rep
1,066
Posts

Drives: 2013 6MT 328i M Sport
Join Date: Mar 2019
Location: Miami

iTrader: (3)

Quote:
Originally Posted by ScottSmith View Post
Have you checked the inner liner on your downpipe?
https://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1771209
Mine turned into a major restrictor.
once installed I haven't had an issue. i went with circuit werks, but if I was to do it again today, it would be cts turbo or the arm motorsports one to eliminate the flex part.
Appreciate 0
      12-28-2020, 09:48 AM   #16
mike@x-ph.com
BimmerPost Supporting Vendor
mike@x-ph.com's Avatar
United_States
24312
Rep
191,028
Posts


Drives: 07-335/12-328/18-M4/21-M4CP
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Las Vegas

iTrader: (23)

Use proven brands with the recommended map, don't use a map that's too aggressive and you'll be fine
__________________
Check out our current sale by clicking on this link!
https://x-ph.com/sale/

Phone number 702-494-9435
Appreciate 0
Post Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:34 AM.




f30post
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST