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      11-11-2008, 02:52 PM   #1
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Exclamation 2009 BMW X5 xDrive35d BluePerformance pricing revealed

BMW of North America has just wrapped up the media launch of its new 2009 BMW Advanced Diesel with two BluePerformance vehicles in a live web press conference. First on the list is the 2009 BMW X5 xDrive35d BluePerformance. The diesel X5 will be available for sale later this month in all 50 states.

Power comes from a turbocharged 3.0 liter inline-six diesel engine that produces 265-hp with a maximum torque of 425 lb-ft. That allows the BMW X5 xDrive35d to go from 0 to 62 mph in just 7.2 seconds with an estimated average fuel economy of 19/25 mpg (city/highway).

Pricing for the 2009 BMW xDrive35d BluePerformance starts at $52,025 but keep in mind your eligible for a $1,550 rebate for purchasing a fuel-efficient vehicle.

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      11-11-2008, 03:47 PM   #2
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Glad to see there's finally news on the X5 diesel!

I can't wait to see the X5 in showrooms and book a test drive.

Really hoping to own one of these gems.
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Fuel economy sucks for an X5 diesel. Not much better than the gas engine.

It looks like they missed the boat again since gas is now under $2 per gallon.

Let me know when the thing is clearly over 30MPG or there really is no point.
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      11-11-2008, 05:28 PM   #5
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US Diesel X5 xDrive35d Pic's

From FastLaneDaily w/ a few of my pic's!!! Thought it was a timely post given todays Press Release. Thanks! PalBay http://www.fastlanedaily.com/episode/fld_20081030
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Fuel economy sucks for an X5 diesel. Not much better than the gas engine.

It looks like they missed the boat again since gas is now under $2 per gallon.

Let me know when the thing is clearly over 30MPG or there really is no point.
The X5 diesel gets 10.7 L/100km City and 7.5 L/100km Highway, the 3.0i gets 13.6L/100km city and 9.3L/ 100km highway. Seems pretty good to me!
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The X5 diesel gets 10.7 L/100km City and 7.5 L/100km Highway, the 3.0i gets 13.6L/100km city and 9.3L/ 100km highway. Seems pretty good to me!
Considering that the xDrive35d is more expensive than the gas-powered one and that the diesel fuel is also more expensive then you need a really huge difference in MPG to offset the additional cost of driving a diesel engine. It may actually take years to recover the additional cost depending on how much mileage you do per year. On the other hand, you'll be greener.
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Considering that the xDrive35d is more expensive than the gas-powered one and that the diesel fuel is also more expensive then you need a really huge difference in MPG to offset the additional cost of driving a diesel engine. It may actually take years to recover the additional cost depending on how much mileage you do per year. On the other hand, you'll be greener.
As more and more people start to use diesel, the fuel cost might drop (I think I read it somewhere.). And who knows how high the gas price will be in few years! So maybe it is always good to know that you have a car that might not easily effected by gas price change!
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As more and more people start to use diesel, the fuel cost might drop (I think I read it somewhere.). And who knows how high the gas price will be in few years! So maybe it is always good to know that you have a car that might not easily effected by gas price change!
I hope you are right.
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The diesel will be good for more than just fuel economy, with towing being a big one. If you've ever towed a trailer with a diesel you'll realize how much better they are than gas. They also tend to "scale" much better, getting nearly the same while loaded as when empty, which is not usually the case with gas. I just wish that BMW would raise the max tow limit on the X5 to 8000 lbs. or so...
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Considering that the xDrive35d is more expensive than the gas-powered one and that the diesel fuel is also more expensive then you need a really huge difference in MPG to offset the additional cost of driving a diesel engine. It may actually take years to recover the additional cost depending on how much mileage you do per year. On the other hand, you'll be greener.
Maybe we're looking at this the wrong way. I drove a 3.0si and found that the engine had to work too hard for the way I like to drive. It has a 0 - 60 time of 7.8 and is rated at 15.7/11.2 (city/hwy).

I also drove the 4.8. It was a great drive and had more than enough power, but I wouldn't consider it because of fuel consumption and cost premium over the 3.0si. It goes 0 - 60 in 6.4 and is rated at 16.8/12.4.

The 35d is supposed to go 0 - 60 in 7.2 seconds and is rated at 11.5/7.5. So from a performance perspective it is right in the middle of the 3.0 and 4.8. However; it is 40% more fuel efficient than the 4.8, while providing 435 lb. ft. of torque. I'm betting it will be a great drive in an urban setting, where most people spend their time.

While the 4.8 may be faster to 60, I'm betting the 35d wil be as quick or quicker to 30 or 40 as it has a clear torque advantage. I'm sure it will be an entertaining drive that will fill in where the 3.0si falls short and will have enough usable power for some to say they don't need the 40% higher fuel consumption of the 4.8 as well as the higher sticker price.

I guess we'll have to wait and see how it is priced in Canada and what options are included. Even if the diesel option costs $4,000 more than the 3.0si as it does in the USA, keep in mind that you aren't just paying for better fuel economy; you are paying for increased performance. This is no different than the BMW providing different prices for the 328 and 335 models. You pay for more performance, regardless of fuel consumption.

Just my $.02.
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      11-13-2008, 11:27 AM   #12
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The diesel will be good for more than just fuel economy, with towing being a big one. If you've ever towed a trailer with a diesel you'll realize how much better they are than gas. They also tend to "scale" much better, getting nearly the same while loaded as when empty, which is not usually the case with gas. I just wish that BMW would raise the max tow limit on the X5 to 8000 lbs. or so...
Skip,

I really think towing is an afterthough for this vehicle. It doesn't come standard with a factory hitch or as a factory option (even Toyota Highlanders and other SUV's have them) and you have to replace a bumper when you install this expensive option. A GL320 I looked at had a factory option (wired, etc.) for $750.00.

In any event, I don't think you'd want to tow 8,000 lbs behind this vehicle. I towed 6,500 lbs. behind my last truck (a 2004 Dodge 3/4 T Ram with a Cummins 5.9 diesel). It was a 2 horse gooseneck trailer with living quarters. In a crosswind, I was happy to have the weight and wheelbase to keep things tracking in a straight line.

I can't imagine hauling 8,000 lbs on a bumper hitch with a unibody frame.
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Skip,

I really think towing is an afterthough for this vehicle. It doesn't come standard with a factory hitch or as a factory option (even Toyota Highlanders and other SUV's have them) and you have to replace a bumper when you install this expensive option. A GL320 I looked at had a factory option (wired, etc.) for $750.00.

In any event, I don't think you'd want to tow 8,000 lbs behind this vehicle. I towed 6,500 lbs. behind my last truck (a 2004 Dodge 3/4 T Ram with a Cummins 5.9 diesel). It was a 2 horse gooseneck trailer with living quarters. In a crosswind, I was happy to have the weight and wheelbase to keep things tracking in a straight line.

I can't imagine hauling 8,000 lbs on a bumper hitch with a unibody frame.
+1 same engine as a 3/5 series and tranny most likely. No enhanced cooling or brakes either. Towing is one of the worst things you can do to a vehicle using components from cars weighing a lot less.

BMW does not offer a towing package like GM that covers the heavy duty aspect.

If you need to tow, rent a truck designed for towing. Don't use a luxury SUV.
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I have a GMC 2500HD long-bed crew-cab with the Duramax/Allison, so I've got a tow vehicle sorted. However, I don't tow that often, typically 3-6 times a year for SCCA club race weekends, so having the truck just sitting around the rest of the time seems silly. The only other times I use it are to haul things that won't fit in the e92, or when the snow is deep enough that the e92+snow tires doesn't do well. I was hoping to simplify things a bit by having the X5 as a good all-rounder. Too bad it sounds like it won't do the trick...

I guess now I'll wait to see what GM/Ford/Toyota/Dodge come up with in terms of a diesel for their SUVs. Word is that they all have 4.x liter V8 diesels in the works for the 1500-class trucks, including Tahoes, etc. I'm tired of the giant HD truck and would like something smaller, but still a diesel. I'd rather have a BMW, no doubt!
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I have a GMC 2500HD long-bed crew-cab with the Duramax/Allison, so I've got a tow vehicle sorted. However, I don't tow that often, typically 3-6 times a year for SCCA club race weekends, so having the truck just sitting around the rest of the time seems silly. The only other times I use it are to haul things that won't fit in the e92, or when the snow is deep enough that the e92+snow tires doesn't do well. I was hoping to simplify things a bit by having the X5 as a good all-rounder. Too bad it sounds like it won't do the trick...

I guess now I'll wait to see what GM/Ford/Toyota/Dodge come up with in terms of a diesel for their SUVs. Word is that they all have 4.x liter V8 diesels in the works for the 1500-class trucks, including Tahoes, etc. I'm tired of the giant HD truck and would like something smaller, but still a diesel. I'd rather have a BMW, no doubt!
Skip,

I know what you are saying. I needed a diesel pick up to haul my trailer, but didn't realy need the 3/4 ton to haul it; a 1/2 ton with more torque would have been fine, but none were available in 2004 when I leased the Dodge. The ride was a bit brutal for a dialy driver but what was worse was the lack of heat from the diesel during our cold winter months. I didn't want to own 2 vehicles, but I towed my trailer about 120 times a year (short haul) and needed the truck. If a 1500 diesel came along, I would definitely look at it.

In the mean time, even if my trailer was a bumper pull, I wouldn't use a SUV (SAV) to haul the weight. This time around, I'm get the X5 for daily use and a used diesel pick up (4 - 5 years old) for hauling (I only haul a few times a year, what with kids and all).

I think the X5 diesel will be a good all around vehicle, but I won't order one until I've driven a dealer demo in December from a cold start in the lot. If it doesn't warm up quickly and stay warm, I don't care how much torque or fuel efficient it is!
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