[rsgg06]

Please let me know how one is doing the updates. Do we need to have vehicle wifi plan enabled for this to work all the time?

I had initial 3 month data plan for at&t at last upgrade. Before that, I thought it uploaded software directly.

Do you have renewed wifi plan on vehicle or how is it done?

Thanks.

[TurtleBoy]

The remote software upgrade does not use the vehicle's HotSpot internet connection. The software is downloaded to your phone and then you connected it the phone to the vehicle using bluetooth and WiFi (think CarPlay connection) and it is transferred to the vehicle.

[rsgg06]

Originally Posted by TurtleBoy

The remote software upgrade does not use the vehicle's HotSpot internet connection. The software is downloaded to your phone and then you connected it the phone to the vehicle using bluetooth and WiFi (think CarPlay connection) and it is transferred to the vehicle.

Thanks, I have android samsung note 10+. In the BMW app, it keeps showing establishing connection to car and keeps looping.

[TurtleBoy]

Originally Posted by rsgg06

Thanks, I have android samsung note 10+. In the BMW app, it keeps showing establishing connection to car and keeps looping.

It actually may be working fine. I know on mine I don't always, perhaps never, get a message that the connection has been established. Could take a few hours of driving (doesn't have to be continuous) for the transfer to complete.

Hopefully someone with Android will chime in.

[rsgg06]

Originally Posted by TurtleBoy

It actually may be working fine. I know on mine I don't always, perhaps never, get a message that the connection has been established. Could take a few hours of driving (doesn't have to be continuous) for the transfer to complete.

Hopefully someone with Android will chime in.

Sure, thanks. I haven't driven the car yet, so may be after driving it will be there.

Appreciate it.

[JimVR4]

Originally Posted by TurtleBoy

The remote software upgrade does not use the vehicle's HotSpot internet connection. The software is downloaded to your phone and then you connected it the phone to the vehicle using bluetooth and WiFi (think CarPlay connection) and it is transferred to the vehicle.

When I upgraded to 07/2021 I got the update on my phone and transferred it. On 11/2021 that just completed I never noticed anything on the phone. The car notified me an update was ready and I only had to agree to start the update. So I think this 11/2021 OTA update didn't go through my phone.

[TurtleBoy]

Originally Posted by JimVR4

When I upgraded to 07/2021 I got the update on my phone and transferred it. On 11/2021 that just completed I never noticed anything on the phone. The car notified me an update was ready and I only had to agree to start the update. So I think this 11/2021 OTA update didn't go through my phone.

It used to be that updates were transferred directly to the vehicle using the vehicle's cell connection, not the subscription HotSpot. That option was supposedly removed in 07/2021 so that the updates are first loaded on the phone and then transferred. Perhaps with 11/2021 they will go directly to the vehicle again.

[JimVR4]

Originally Posted by TurtleBoy

It used to be that updates were transferred directly to the vehicle using the vehicle's cell connection, not the subscription HotSpot. That option was supposedly removed in 07/2021 so that the updates are first loaded on the phone and then transferred. Perhaps with 11/2021 they will go directly to the vehicle again.

I can say it was a lot easier this time around as there was no messing with transferring anything from the phone.

[rsgg06]

Thanks all for the feedback.

I think I just carried by fact that I wanted to do it quick and didn't drive on last two updates versus initial ones. Last time, I got AT&T 3-month free plan to get around!!!

I acted too quick between update availability notice and car upload without driving. No need to have WIFI for this need. Yesterday, I went out with WIFE to get ChickFilA sandwich, in about 15-minute round trip, it uploaded update from phone to car. Actual vehicle update took less than 10 minutes.

[TurtleBoy]

Glad it worked out for you.

[IFlyX5]

TurtleBoy I just did the 11/2021.50 yesterday. It was still loaded to my phone first, then transferred to my X5 after connecting the phone via Bluetooth and WiFi.

[TurtleBoy]

Originally Posted by IFlyX5

TurtleBoy I just did the 11/2021.50 yesterday. It was still loaded to my phone first, then transferred to my X5 after connecting the phone via Bluetooth and WiFi.

Thanks for the info although that introduces another variable unless JimVR4 - could you have missed the download to your phone and it just transferred since you use CarPlay?

The version each of you were on prior to the update could be a factor also.

[IFlyX5]

Originally Posted by TurtleBoy

Thanks for the info although that introduces another variable unless JimVR4 - could you have missed the download to your phone and it just transferred since you use CarPlay?

The version each of you were on prior to the update could be a factor also.

Mine was on 07/2021. My wife's X5, which is on 11/2021.35 did not get any update notification.

[JimVR4]

Originally Posted by IFlyX5

Mine was on 07/2021. My wife's X5, which is on 11/2021.35 did not get any update notification.

Yes, I was also on 07/2021 prior to the update. I do use Android Auto but my experience on the prior update was the connection had to be changed to enable the transfer from the phone and the transfer had to be pushed by me. I wonder if the MyBMW app functionality has changed in this regard.

[TurtleBoy]

Originally Posted by JimVR4

Yes, I was also on 07/2021 prior to the update. I do use Android Auto but my experience on the prior update was the connection had to be changed to enable the transfer from the phone and the transfer had to be pushed by me. I wonder if the MyBMW app functionality has changed in this regard.

I'm not familiar with the AA connection. For CarPlay it is connected by Bluetooth and WiFi so there is nothing that needs to be done on order for the update to be transferred to the vehicle. Who knows, maybe that is the determiner, if a person is constantly using AA then the OTA goes directly to the vehicle. Or it is just luck of the draw. Hopefully as the OTAs roll out we have more folks chiming in with how they got the update and what they use (AA, CarPlay or neither).

[FarsBimmer]

When I just remote updated and now the Remote Start is not working, so guess I need to go to the service center to get it fixed. Seems like I always have issues with remote down loads.

[TurtleBoy]

Originally Posted by FarsBimmer

When I just remote updated and now the Remote Start is not working, so guess I need to go to the service center to get it fixed. Seems like I always have issues with remote down loads.

You need to enable it again. Updates clear out the checkbox. It is in the Climate menu.

[nZtiZia]

Originally Posted by FarsBimmer

When I just remote updated and now the Remote Start is not working, so guess I need to go to the service center to get it fixed. Seems like I always have issues with remote down loads.

it's a known 'issue' (among others) and addressed in the general notes for RSU and shouldn't require a service visit. after an update, i simply go through all my settings again. 'tis a minor inconvenience

[zhangyi17]

Originally Posted by TurtleBoy

I'm not familiar with the AA connection. For CarPlay it is connected by Bluetooth and WiFi so there is nothing that needs to be done on order for the update to be transferred to the vehicle. Who knows, maybe that is the determiner, if a person is constantly using AA then the OTA goes directly to the vehicle. Or it is just luck of the draw. Hopefully as the OTAs roll out we have more folks chiming in with how they got the update and what they use (AA, CarPlay or neither).

Same for Android phone. Wifi and Bluetooth are needed for AA connection. There's nothing special for OTA as well. Data transferred from phone to the head unit and upgrade starts by itself. Though it's always a bit nerve racking...

[TurtleBoy]

Originally Posted by zhangyi17

Same for Android phone. Wifi and Bluetooth are needed for AA connection. There's nothing special for OTA as well. Data transferred from phone to the head unit and upgrade starts by itself. Though it's always a bit nerve racking...

Thanks for the info.