Car is having a hard time starting up

e46charz · 12-31-2008, 01:32 PM

I recently purchased a 09 E92 Coupe, and recently everyone morning before work, the car cranks for a long time before it starts up. I thought this was due to the cold weather, but I know many vehicles do not have this problem. Anyone help me out? I have a 6mt if that makes a difference. Thanks!!

The_AMG_Hunter · 12-31-2008, 01:32 PM

Your Fuel Pump is failing

e46charz · 12-31-2008, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by e90_DriftStar

Your Fuel Pump is failing

Why is that?

e92phreak · 12-31-2008, 01:38 PM

previous years' models have had fuel pump failures. Looks like the 09's may still have a few bad batches.

Bimmeration · 12-31-2008, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by e46charz

I recently purchased a 09 E92 Coupe, and recently everyone morning before work, the car cranks for a long time before it starts up. I thought this was due to the cold weather, but I know many vehicles do not have this problem. Anyone help me out? I have a 6mt if that makes a difference. Thanks!!

fuel pump for sure.

e92phreak · 12-31-2008, 01:39 PM

Just do a search for fuel pump or HPFP. You'll see hundreds of occurrences.

akack79 · 12-31-2008, 01:41 PM

You have now become a victim of the infamous BMW HPFP, a quick one day replacement from the dealer.

e46charz · 12-31-2008, 01:57 PM

Ok Thanks guys, do you know if dealerships cover break in oil change?

kar335 · 12-31-2008, 02:04 PM

Nope, they will change it annually and at the service indicator times. all others are on your dime. There is a great DIY section that covers doing them yourself, which might be handy.

Ghost170 · 12-31-2008, 03:39 PM

Sounds like typical fuel pump problem. Just make sure you extend your warranty so you can keep replacing the fuel pump!

cn555ic · 12-31-2008, 03:50 PM

damn he is MY09 and its still happening

balance · 12-31-2008, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by e90_DriftStar

Your Fuel Pump is failing

+1 just took mine in to get it replaced yesterday!

hipnotic · 12-31-2008, 06:44 PM

yup fuel pump like what everyone else said. take it to dealer

BK · 12-31-2008, 07:15 PM

Before you get too paranoid, is it taking just a bit longer to start, or is it actually having a rough time starting? In the winter, it's normal to an extra second or so to start when the engine has been sitting. If your HPFP is going bad, it takes quite a bit longer to start up (read the older threads).

e46charz · 12-31-2008, 11:49 PM

It cranks for about 3-4x before it actually starts, so i would say she's having a rough time. however, this doesn't happen every time though. any inputs? i'm guessing its still a failing fuel pump

m2kev · 12-31-2008, 11:58 PM

I had that in the first two months of ownership. After that it stopped. I recently had my HPFP replaced for my first service at 8k miles (after 8 months of ownership)

wj4 · 01-01-2009, 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by e46charz

Ok Thanks guys, do you know if dealerships cover break in oil change?

Nope. You get a free oil change at 15k and every 15k miles after that. If you lease, that's fine. If you bought your car, I would do an oil change at a 5k interval.

e46charz · 01-01-2009, 02:17 PM

I only have 1000 miles on this car too!

shaddai · 01-01-2009, 02:35 PM

Insane... Take it to the dealer and see if it is throwing the 2FBF code (or any other, the 2FBF one seems to be the "it took a long time to start" code). It's likely they'll do a pressure test and also likely it will pass, yet the pump will fail later on.

Good luck! You are not alone. Mine went at 2500 miles.

BlkSapphire · 01-01-2009, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by e46charz

Why is that?

Because everyone's fuel pump fails. It's a known problem with the E9x's. Go to the dealer and tell them you have a long crank and you're worried about your High Pressure Fuel Pump. Then ask them if they've ever heard of anyone's High Pressure Fuel Pump failing. Be sure to allow at least 5 minutes for them to stop laughing.

Robert · 01-01-2009, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by e46charz

It cranks for about 3-4x before it actually starts, so i would say she's having a rough time. however, this doesn't happen every time though. any inputs? i'm guessing its still a failing fuel pump

Yes, my 135i was like that but once pump is changed it starts first crank every time.

awei130 · 01-01-2009, 06:50 PM

hope you get everything taken care of charz ... HPFP failure seems all to common on our cars. If your gonna take it to New Century look for Syndey he'll take care of ya.

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akack79 Brigadier General 142 Rep 3,161 Posts Drives: '18 F80 M3 ZCP Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: T E X A S iTrader: (18)	You have now become a victim of the infamous BMW HPFP, a quick one day replacement from the dealer. __________________ 2018 F80 M3 6MT ZCP
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e46charz - 28 Rep 173 Posts Drives: m-azing sedan Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: diamond bar, ca iTrader: (0)	Ok Thanks guys, do you know if dealerships cover break in oil change?
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kar335 Green means GO 1 Rep 141 Posts Drives: 2010 550i GT Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Suffolk, VA iTrader: (0)	Nope, they will change it annually and at the service indicator times. all others are on your dime. There is a great DIY section that covers doing them yourself, which might be handy.
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Ghost170 Brigadier General 89 Rep 3,355 Posts Drives: VIP Sport 335! Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: N CA iTrader: (8) Garage List 2007 BMW e92 335! [6.34]	Sounds like typical fuel pump problem. Just make sure you extend your warranty so you can keep replacing the fuel pump! __________________ *07 E92 335!* AA AE GP HR LC M3 KW BMS BMW LUX CYBA STRI WORK HELIX MTECH LSWEEE(Wavetrac)!
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cn555ic 441 Rep 18,331 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: US iTrader: (6)	damn he is MY09 and its still happening
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hipnotic Major General 149 Rep 6,604 Posts Drives: e92 335i Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: So. Cal iTrader: (7) Garage List 2008 335i coupe [7.00]	yup fuel pump like what everyone else said. take it to dealer
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BK Smiling politely 165 Rep 7,931 Posts Drives: 330i Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Washington DC iTrader: (0) Garage List 2006 330i [9.00]	Before you get too paranoid, is it taking just a bit longer to start, or is it actually having a rough time starting? In the winter, it's normal to an extra second or so to start when the engine has been sitting. If your HPFP is going bad, it takes quite a bit longer to start up (read the older threads). __________________ E90 330i Black Sapphire 6MT \| 991.1 C4 Platinum Silver 7MT
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e46charz - 28 Rep 173 Posts Drives: m-azing sedan Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: diamond bar, ca iTrader: (0)	It cranks for about 3-4x before it actually starts, so i would say she's having a rough time. however, this doesn't happen every time though. any inputs? i'm guessing its still a failing fuel pump
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m2kev Major 89 Rep 1,187 Posts Drives: G87 M2 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: San Clemente, CA iTrader: (14)	I had that in the first two months of ownership. After that it stopped. I recently had my HPFP replaced for my first service at 8k miles (after 8 months of ownership) __________________
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e46charz - 28 Rep 173 Posts Drives: m-azing sedan Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: diamond bar, ca iTrader: (0)	I only have 1000 miles on this car too!
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shaddai former N54 owner 11 Rep 607 Posts Drives: 2008 Audi S4 DTM Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Bay Area, CA iTrader: (0) Garage List 2008 335i [0.00]	Insane... Take it to the dealer and see if it is throwing the 2FBF code (or any other, the 2FBF one seems to be the "it took a long time to start" code). It's likely they'll do a pressure test and also likely it will pass, yet the pump will fail later on. Good luck! You are not alone. Mine went at 2500 miles. __________________ +lemon
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awei130 Banned 209 Rep 2,492 Posts Drives: E46, E92, 987 Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: SOCAL iTrader: (19)	hope you get everything taken care of charz ... HPFP failure seems all to common on our cars. If your gonna take it to New Century look for Syndey he'll take care of ya.
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