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      11-15-2007, 01:07 PM   #1
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Now the wait for Cdn pricing...

So the US pricing has been released...but I'm still left with an unsatisfied feeling of "how will that translate to Canadian..."

I'm not trying to start a "well $X US converts to $X cdn, so that means BMW better make $X or I'll be pissed" thread...

but rather continuing to wait for "my" price...
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      11-15-2007, 01:26 PM   #2
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Yeah, my dealer emailed me with some pictures from the auto show yesterday, but he says BMW is still being tight lipped up here. I figure though, at the highest end, it won't be more than $44k CDN, which is a pretty astronomical number if you ask me, but its just taking into account that there is about a $8k-$9k difference between the CDN/US equivalent 3-series. And that price diff scales for the 3-series, ie; 328i CDN is $8k more than its US counterpart, and the 335i is $9k more than the American counterpart.

So I figure the MSRP will be about $7k more than the US #, so about $42k-$43k ish. And then I figure we may get a rebate on top of that similar to whats goin on with the 3 series.

Personally I'm *realistically hoping* (oxymoron) for about $42.5k less a rebate of say $1500, so $40k-ish? But I'm also preparing for something closer to $44k (at which point I may get a friend in San Fran to try and pick one up and bring it across or settle for something else altogether.... who am I kidding, I'll still get it actually). Hope for the best, prep for the worst.
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      11-15-2007, 01:29 PM   #3
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I'm not trying to turn this into another crazy CDN versus US pricing bitchfests either. Just calling it how it is.
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      11-15-2007, 01:40 PM   #4
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I bet we won't see CND pricing until mid Feb. http://www.autoshow.ca/2008/
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      11-15-2007, 01:47 PM   #5
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Well, the prices are what they are.
Fair? No, they are f'n ridiculous but what can we do? :iono:
For the brave one's there is always the option of cross border shopping.

I'm hoping 128 for about 32-33K, but I won't hold my breath.
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      11-15-2007, 01:50 PM   #6
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What's Canada?
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      11-15-2007, 01:53 PM   #7
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What's Canada?
It's the socialist republic north of US.
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      11-15-2007, 02:04 PM   #8
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I bet we won't see CND pricing until mid Feb. http://www.autoshow.ca/2008/
I don't know, I think thats a little pessimistic, from what I've heard Canada is looking at an April release date which is only a few weeks after the US release date. I can't imagine they'd release the pricing so far apart when the release dates are so close together. They can't keep us completely in the dark for the next 4 months. Even the dealers are lookin for info so if orders are generally placed 3 months before delivery (January), I'd think they'd be able to tell us a lot more by January at the latest.

I think we'll see something before the end of the year. Since BMWNA has already released US pricing, I don't think CDN is too far behind, the only thing that may slow it up is uncertainty around the currency, but even that can be solved by using rebates to establish pricing (which is what they're already doing) since rebates can be adjusted with relative ease as opposed to prices that will be relatively fixed for the model years.
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      11-15-2007, 02:52 PM   #9
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i'm not expecting CDN prices close to the U.S. prices so most likely i'll go to NY or MI to import one.

good news! 1992-2008 BMWs are admissible according to the RIV list.
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      11-15-2007, 02:56 PM   #10
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With a little excel, I estimate 44800 for 135i and 38300 for the 128i :iono:
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      11-15-2007, 03:05 PM   #11
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With a little excel, I estimate 44800 for 135i and 38300 for the 128i :iono:
I think your base # for the 135 includes destination which is more in Canada than US...

We should run a Monte Carlo simulation around this and get some probablistic numbers around potential Canadian pricing.
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      11-15-2007, 03:09 PM   #12
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I think your base # for the 135 includes destination which is more in Canada than US...

We should run a Monte Carlo simulation around this and get some probablistic numbers around potential Canadian pricing.
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Oh, good call. In any case, I wouldn't be surprised to see Canadian pricing in this ballpark (Minus Destination)
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      11-15-2007, 03:17 PM   #13
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My guess is 32,500 for the 128 and 39,500 for the 135.
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      11-15-2007, 03:37 PM   #14
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Oh, good call. In any case, I wouldn't be surprised to see Canadian pricing in this ballpark (Minus Destination)
I don't think you're too far off, I think $44.8k is a little on the high side, and I think factory rebates will be in there too.

Fingers crossed for $42k
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      11-15-2007, 04:30 PM   #15
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Still getting ripped off. I will wait and pick up slightly used one from the US.

Go to hell BMW Canada.
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Go to hell BMW Canada.
So much anger...
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      11-15-2007, 05:07 PM   #17
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Perfectly understandable when you're being raped....
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Wow...so far I'm reserving judgment until I get offical pricing for here in Canada...

From there I've already drawn my line in the sand of what I "justify" spending on a 1'er...if it's above that mark, then no Bimmer in my Garage...if it's below, WOO HOO:headbang:

After all, it's a car, and it fails to meet my criteria, i'll have to find something else, or wait another year or 2 until some used ones do...or if it flops(which I doubt) and dealers are dying to get them off the lots...
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      11-15-2007, 05:45 PM   #19
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With a little excel, I estimate 44800 for 135i and 38300 for the 128i :iono:
Not that I would want to question your creative and financial genius, but------
What is your logic in assuming that the MSRP for the Canadian 128i will be 30% more than the U.S. 128i when the Cdn 328i Coupe MSRP is only 23% more than the U.S. 328i Coupe???:iono:
Even the delta between the Cdn & U.S. 335i coupes is only 26%.
It seems somewhat counter-intuitive to me that the percentage difference between the Cdn & U.S. 1ers would actually INCREASE when our dollar has appreciated against the EURO (let alone the U.S. buckaroo)...
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Not that I would want to question your creative and financial genius, but------
What is your logic in assuming that the MSRP for the Canadian 128i will be 30% more than the U.S. 128i when the Cdn 328i Coupe MSRP is only 23% more than the U.S. 328i Coupe???:iono:
Even the delta between the Cdn & U.S. 335i coupes is only 26%.
It seems somewhat counter-intuitive to me that the percentage difference between the Cdn & U.S. 1ers would actually INCREASE when our dollar has appreciated against the EURO (let alone the U.S. buckaroo)...
I'll admit, my estimates are a bit on the high side.. Just playing around with extrapolating numbers on a graph, really. You're right though and something like 37000 for 128i will probably be more in line with current pricings...
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I'll admit, my estimates are a bit on the high side.. Just playing around with extrapolating numbers on a graph, really. You're right though and something like 37000 for 128i will probably be more in line with current pricings...
Even if the percentage increase of the Canadian 128i over the U.S. 128i is the same as the Cdn 328i over the U.S. 328i (which is 23%), then the MSRP of the Canadian 128i will be $28,600 X 1.23 = $35,178 Cdn.
So your $37K also makes no sense.
BMW Canada generally lowers the % diff between Canadian & U.S. for the lower priced models (e.g. the % delta increases in real and percentage terms the higher up the model ladder).
There is no reason to believe that they will reverse this practice just for the 128i - that would not make any business sense.
Based on BMW Canada's existing pricing algorithm, it would appear more likely that the % delta between the Cdn & U.S. 128i will be more in the 20% range putting the 128i Cdn MSRP approx $34,500.
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      11-15-2007, 06:22 PM   #22
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Makes sense. To be honest, I did not consider the changing delta from highend to lowend. Like I said, I was really just playing with numbers on a graph.

It's all speculation in the meantime and I would LOVE to have to eat my words when all is said and done. :wink:
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