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      04-14-2008, 10:13 PM   #1
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Thumbs up v3 Procede just announced! Now simply plug-n-play

not sure how many here are thinking of procede as a tuning option but I was just over on e90post and saw this

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=134243

Looks promising. No more wire extraction and PnP with proper connectors is definitely a big step in my book.
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      04-14-2008, 10:25 PM   #2
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very interesting... every time I think I know which way I am going something changes my mind....
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no proceed for me... too many problems with their tunes
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The Helix Tune with that new harness would be great
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      04-14-2008, 10:37 PM   #5
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no proceed for me... too many problems with their tunes

very untrue. 99% of the problems are due to user installation error and/or using unsupported bolt-ons. This new V3 looks to eliminate those two situations. I have had PROcede for over a year (15k+ miles) and not a single problem.

Anyone in the LA area considering this tune, I will do a free install on ONE 135i...
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very untrue. 99% of the problems are due to user installation error and/or using unsupported bolt-ons. This new V3 looks to eliminate those two situations. I have had PROcede for over a year (15k+ miles) and not a single problem.

Anyone in the LA area considering this tune, I will do a free install on ONE 135i...
How much are they and what kind of numbers do we get out of the new one (without me reading all of the thread that was posted...).

Thanks!
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      04-14-2008, 10:42 PM   #7
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Pretty sure I'm sticking with Helix regardless, but PnP is a nice upgrade. I'll be interested to see what else they add with this new version.

I've never been all that impressed with their customer service, however this seems like a pretty cool product.
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      04-14-2008, 10:58 PM   #8
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Pretty sure I'm sticking with Helix regardless, but PnP is a nice upgrade.
I'm genuinely curious, why are you staying with Helix, what are the pluses and minuses to either?

Thanks!
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      04-14-2008, 11:22 PM   #9
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I'm genuinely curious, why are you staying with Helix, what are the pluses and minuses to either?

Thanks!
Helix-

Pro:
45 Minutes away
Storage of multiple maps
Dyno tuning
Very fancy hardware
Price
Power

Cons:
Less established in N54 community
Awkward way of switching maps
No plug and play
With the hardware and processing power on board, it should be able to run rings around procede in terms of boost logic, response, etc, we'll have to see if it does with this new version


Procede

Pros:
Good power
Good adjustability
Race gas maps with new version
Plug and play
Possible fancyness
Generally pretty good curves

Cons:
Limited hardware compared to Attache
Bad customer service
Bad reputation for ditching customer bases
Price
We'll see what v3 actually has to offer, 6 months from now! :biggrin:
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      04-14-2008, 11:29 PM   #10
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I'm genuinely curious, why are you staying with Helix, what are the pluses and minuses to either?

Thanks!
I noticed your ordered car on your sig We get our alpine white car tomorrow!!! Seems like it has taken forever but it's only taken 45 days

What I am waiting to see is how BMW's new (March 1st and newer build dates) built in detection software will work with the tuning units that intercept DME's.

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      04-14-2008, 11:34 PM   #11
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very untrue. 99% of the problems are due to user installation error and/or using unsupported bolt-ons. This new V3 looks to eliminate those two situations. I have had PROcede for over a year (15k+ miles) and not a single problem.

Anyone in the LA area considering this tune, I will do a free install on ONE 135i...
LOL, I just pm'd you about the asus setup on e90post, didn't know you were here too.
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      04-14-2008, 11:44 PM   #12
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I don't know why they didn't do that in the first place. The plug n play cable was the first thing I suggested after I saw the installation video. Good job Vishnu for taking the right step to improve installation. This should make it easier to take your car in for service.

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I really wish they make a new socket for the existing cable to plug in and coming out of the tune box is another socket to plug back into the car. All this popping pins out and replacing it is a pain. Especially, when you have to take it in and out for service. Also, it's a method to reduce install error and increase overall product satisfication.
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I noticed your ordered car on your sig We get our alpine white car tomorrow!!! Seems like it has taken forever but it's only taken 45 days

What I am waiting to see is how BMW's new (March 1st and newer build dates) built in detection software will work with the tuning units that intercept DME's.

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Jeff, could you expand on this or just start a new thread. I haven't heard anything about this.
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Jeff, could you expand on this or just start a new thread. I haven't heard anything about this.
As soon as our car gets to the shop late tomorrow we will do some quick diagnostic sweeps with the new BMW software to check if the info we got at Autosport International in England was true. Once we know for sure I will post our data. What we were told by the boys from Stuttgart was that all new turbo cars with a March 1st build date have new software that will detect impedance changes on certain legs of the DME harness. Supposedly it can then log that data for future download by your SA.

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      04-15-2008, 12:16 AM   #15
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wow this changes my plans. The plug and play is great. Helix please do this !!!!
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Sneeky bastards!!!

Guess they're trying to blame all the burnt cylinder 5/6's and failed diverter valves on tunes. I hope they can't just do a software update on older cars to do this too.
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      04-15-2008, 01:21 AM   #17
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How much are they and what kind of numbers do we get out of the new one (without me reading all of the thread that was posted...).

Thanks!
V2 is $1,295 brand new. I doubt the V3 will be much more if anything. Gains should be in the 80-100whp/100-120wtq range depending on supporting mods.
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Helix-

Pro:
45 Minutes away
Storage of multiple maps
Dyno tuning
Very fancy hardware
Price
Power

Cons:
Less established in N54 community
Awkward way of switching maps
No plug and play
With the hardware and processing power on board, it should be able to run rings around procede in terms of boost logic, response, etc, we'll have to see if it does with this new version


Procede

Pros:
Good power
Good adjustability
Race gas maps with new version
Plug and play
Possible fancyness
Generally pretty good curves

Cons:
Limited hardware compared to Attache
Bad customer service
Bad reputation for ditching customer bases
Price
We'll see what v3 actually has to offer, 6 months from now! :biggrin:
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I noticed your ordered car on your sig We get our alpine white car tomorrow!!! Seems like it has taken forever but it's only taken 45 days

What I am waiting to see is how BMW's new (March 1st and newer build dates) built in detection software will work with the tuning units that intercept DME's.

Jeff
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'08 135 Alpine White/Red Boston, Turbo Tuner, Eurobahn Plasma Coils, Eurobahn panel filter.
It certainly is feeling like F-O-R-E-V-E-R... The dealership is speculating delivery sometime in early June.

Thanks again for the answers everyone.
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      04-15-2008, 07:18 AM   #19
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very untrue. 99% of the problems are due to user installation error and/or using unsupported bolt-ons. This new V3 looks to eliminate those two situations. I have had PROcede for over a year (15k+ miles) and not a single problem.

Anyone in the LA area considering this tune, I will do a free install on ONE 135i...
his tune is not for me... I heard too many issues not only with his BMW tunes but also Subarus... I don;t want to start a flame war so I will not make another comments, but I do suggest people fully research any tuner they plan to go with.
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i wonder if there is a stock setting on the program so we can bring it in the dealer.
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i wonder if there is a stock setting on the program so we can bring it in the dealer.
Yeah, but that won't matter if the ECU can now store data relating to altered signals from the DME harness; your SA will know you have, or have had, a piggy installed whether you have a switch that sets it to stock or completely uninstall it.

I got excited about this release, but with the news of the ECU update, I'm once again leaning towards Dinan.
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Woah...they may steal my business away from Helix because of the plug-n-play aspect. Hopefully the limp issues are no longer an issue. Guess I'll wait for the guinea pigs reviews before purchasing though.
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