cross competition

professor · 05-15-2008, 10:20 PM

anybody have any experience with cross competition coilovers? i'd appreciate to hear your views if you do.

Charles1 · 05-16-2008, 10:38 AM

I don't have experience with Cross. That said my recommendation is to stick with TCK or Koni.

My brother and I have spent big money on top of the line coilovers (repeatedly). Thinking the flashy products and features are going to make us faster. Only to lose to Koni setups by 2+ seconds on a local 40 seconds autocross. After switching to Konis we started wining.

FYI, we also race in www.westcoasthc.com

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professor · 05-17-2008, 01:20 AM

it seems that cross has a linear setup like yours, but they have two features that are interesting to think about. one, the "uncomfortable" aspects of a linear setup (which what drives people to kw's progressive springs setups) are reduced by using a "helper spring" and, two, it is possible to drop without effecting travel at all, which is unique.

Charles1 · 05-17-2008, 02:27 AM

Some useful info
Progressive springs can be unpredictable
Ride has more to do with shocks than springs
The only way to drop you car and maintain “travel” is to reduce you shock height. My car is 1.25” lower and the shocks are 1” lower than stock (travel is kept)
Helper springs are not required when you order the proper sized spring to start with. Many companies only order springs in one size for all applications (its cheaper).
Helper springs and close progressive springs are very noisy (caused by coils hitting)
IMO my car rides as nice as ever
Go with a trusted shock, leave marketing gimmicks in the magazines and on 16 yr old kids civics. No hate mail, we race Civics in www.westcoasthc.com

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Charles1 Second Lieutenant 18 Rep 243 Posts Drives: 135i Join Date: May 2008 Location: SoCal iTrader: (0)	I don't have experience with Cross. That said my recommendation is to stick with TCK or Koni. My brother and I have spent big money on top of the line coilovers (repeatedly). Thinking the flashy products and features are going to make us faster. Only to lose to Koni setups by 2+ seconds on a local 40 seconds autocross. After switching to Konis we started wining. FYI, we also race in www.westcoasthc.com Sent from an iPhone. Sorry for any mistakes
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professor Major 46 Rep 1,473 Posts Drives: Z4 M40i Join Date: Mar 2008 iTrader: (0)	it seems that cross has a linear setup like yours, but they have two features that are interesting to think about. one, the "uncomfortable" aspects of a linear setup (which what drives people to kw's progressive springs setups) are reduced by using a "helper spring" and, two, it is possible to drop without effecting travel at all, which is unique.
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Charles1 Second Lieutenant 18 Rep 243 Posts Drives: 135i Join Date: May 2008 Location: SoCal iTrader: (0)	Some useful info Progressive springs can be unpredictable Ride has more to do with shocks than springs The only way to drop you car and maintain “travel” is to reduce you shock height. My car is 1.25” lower and the shocks are 1” lower than stock (travel is kept) Helper springs are not required when you order the proper sized spring to start with. Many companies only order springs in one size for all applications (its cheaper). Helper springs and close progressive springs are very noisy (caused by coils hitting) IMO my car rides as nice as ever Go with a trusted shock, leave marketing gimmicks in the magazines and on 16 yr old kids civics. No hate mail, we race Civics in www.westcoasthc.com
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