Hey All!! Comming over from a Mercedes

alchang32 · 02-10-2009, 10:38 PM

Hey all im new to the BMW side, i am currently in the market to get a pre-owned 335i coupe. i had my eyes on one of the 335i blk/blk with navi. It has 17,xxx and it is asking $30,995. Here's the thing it has a lemon title in california, and BMW buy back, and the dealer in chicago is offering for sale.

What should i do? I really want a Blk ext coupe with I-drive, is it really worth the money?

What do you guys think? I have no previous experience with BMW's but i always keep close attention to it.

Im looking foward to join you guys soon with my new car, but hopefully you guys can help me find the right one with the right price!

BTW, i currently have a C32 hehe.

Thank you all!

Alan

TheAcAvenger · 02-10-2009, 10:42 PM

I wouldn't buy a lemoned 335i honestly.

Keep looking though. You should be able to find an 07 under 25k miles under $35k, I think.

mekeni · 02-10-2009, 10:45 PM

don't ever buy a lemon... give yourself time, there's plenty of them out there.

Prodipper · 02-10-2009, 10:48 PM

+1^

stressdoc · 02-10-2009, 10:49 PM

Probably just a HPFP issue that is now resolved -- but I would want to know what the problem was.

If you can do without some luxury options you can get a new one via Euro delivery for close to 40k.

alchang32 · 02-10-2009, 10:55 PM

Dealer told me that it was some electronic glitch, but he also mentioned that check engine light, but nothing too serious. So im not sure. The price is really tempting, but would i get screwed in the long run?

BTW is I-DRIVE worth it?

Craig@SupremePower · 02-10-2009, 11:01 PM

no lemons....

-=Hot|Ice=- · 02-10-2009, 11:02 PM

I wouldn't go for it. I-Drive is worth it to some. It does include the auto vent feature that is pretty nifty.

dkhm3 · 02-10-2009, 11:46 PM

NO. dont.

Yoshii · 02-10-2009, 11:52 PM

screw that...i wouldn't spend that much money to get some car that has a lemon to its title...just get a new one or keep looking for a better deal...

shaddai · 02-11-2009, 11:02 AM

They don't call it a lemon for nothing. Pass. Especially on the 335's...

guydude · 02-11-2009, 11:24 AM

keep looking....I drive is AMAZING ....I would hate my 335 it it didnt have it. I wouldn't go with a lemon car though....In my 335i , my motor blew at 1400 miles!!! LAME!! But they shipped a new motor from germany(or so they said) and did an engine swap. Car runs great, and clean title....But that goes to show, CHECK SERVICE RECORDS BEFORE PURCHASING.

GL....welcome to a 'real' ballers car

Bimmeration · 02-11-2009, 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alchang32

Dealer told me that it was some electronic glitch, but he also mentioned that check engine light, but nothing too serious. So im not sure. The price is really tempting, but would i get screwed in the long run?

BTW is I-DRIVE worth it?

get over it.
not worth the trouble.
i-drive is ok.

E86S54 · 02-11-2009, 11:28 AM

not worth it...wait for another car

Xiaofeng · 02-11-2009, 12:05 PM

Welcome to E90post, alchang32. We hope you enjoy your stay, and look forward to seeing your BMW when you decide on one. In the meantime, pics of the C32 would be nice too.

In response to your question, the only way I would buy a lemon is if that happened to be the color of the leather inside. (A little E90 humor for you. Look here for some pictures, if you're curious.) But in all seriousness, buying a car with a lemon title seems to me as inviting trouble and inconvenience. The car was obviously lemoned for a reason, and thus already has a history of problems. If you can find out exactly what has been done on the car, and if you decide that the risk is worth it, then you can pick it up, but I would opt to pass on that particular car.

In regards to iDrive, that would depend on how comfortable you are with technology and electronics in general. Some people hate it, some feel that it's somewhat of an acquired taste, but I personally really like it. One of the unique features of iDrive is that everything is accessible through a single user interface, which vastly unclutters the dash. Instead of having 50 different buttons strewn throughout your dash, you have a single "mouse-like" knob that does everything. Also, unlike many other systems that lock you out of most of the system's features, everything on iDrive is accessible at all times. Virtually everything that I want to do on iDrive, I can do without even looking at the screen anymore, which helps keep my eyes on the road rather than looking away and scanning for the correct button to press. However, the best advice I can give you is to simply find a car with iDrive and play with it for a while. Find a 2008 or older version to play with, if you're looking for a CPO or used vehicle. The 2009 iDrive versions have been significantly upgraded (and are phenomenal, by the way), but typically require a new car.

All in all, just remember to go slowly and not let your emotions overrule your better judgment. There are lots of cars out there to choose from, and when you find that perfect one, you'll be much happier. Good luck on your search!

Oh, and apologies for the lengthy post!

methodtim · 02-11-2009, 12:09 PM

^ Yeah, what the dude with the funny hair said.

Let me extend you a welcome as well. This is probably the nicest we're going to be to you, so enjoy it while you can.

T3X4S · 02-11-2009, 01:21 PM

Avoid. The lemon may not make a great lemonade.

jlstyle · 02-11-2009, 01:32 PM

I've personally had a lemon z4 that BMW bought back.
It had electrical glitch and constant CEL triggering.
They even offered me big chunk of cash if I were to keep the car but I denied it.
Don't buy a lemoned car, it only give you a nightmares.

And as far as i-drive goes....editors in edmund.com calls it so stupid and just so damn stupid that it just never gets better. But personally I kinda like it even though it doesn't give you much.

vadim · 02-11-2009, 02:48 PM

I prefer not having the iDrive - just hate the horrible hump in the middle. It does offer some extra functionality, though (besides navigation). For example, the iDrive does show which bulb is out as opposed to just a generic bulb-out indication w/o iDrive - you then have to walk around and find out which one it is. A nuisance - my C230k w/o COMAND showed the exact location of a burnt bulb.

The nav portion of the iDrive, though, is nothing to sing about. My PDA phone with TomTom does a better job and is more flexible as you can carry it around in you pocket when needed.

As for buying a refurbished lemon - find out exactly what it was. If it is related to the engine or the drivetrain - avoid it by all means.

cliverman · 02-11-2009, 06:09 PM

Coming over from a C32...I had a C32. Nice ride. Super quick car. I loved the straight ahead speed but I didn't enjoy the drive. You'll love the drive of the 335 so much better. A few mods and you'll be set. Don't buy a lemon. In the r $30K range you'll be able to find a few 335i's out there but I'd suggest buying a new one. With the current financing you should be able to get a deal.

Here's a pic of my old C32 (EVOSPORT STAGE 2) 1/4 Mile ET: 12.891 1/4 Mile MPH: 110.260

bsamoul · 02-11-2009, 06:14 PM

Never buy a lemon. Much less one that is from California that somehow made its way to Illinois.

Ramos · 02-11-2009, 06:16 PM

So many reasons it could have been a lemon.. Just to name a few possibilities:
Fuel Pump
Tailights / electrical problems on the E92's
Waste gate rattle
What am I forgetting you guys?

You could probably live with some of these known issues although why should you?
The deal you are getting on this car is not worth it.. For $25K or less, maybe

02-10-2009, 10:38 PM	#1
alchang32 Private First Class 12 Rep 128 Posts Drives: W203 C32 AMG/ E92 335 Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Glendale iTrader: (3)	Hey All!! Comming over from a Mercedes Hey all im new to the BMW side, i am currently in the market to get a pre-owned 335i coupe. i had my eyes on one of the 335i blk/blk with navi. It has 17,xxx and it is asking $30,995. Here's the thing it has a lemon title in california, and BMW buy back, and the dealer in chicago is offering for sale. What should i do? I really want a Blk ext coupe with I-drive, is it really worth the money? What do you guys think? I have no previous experience with BMW's but i always keep close attention to it. Im looking foward to join you guys soon with my new car, but hopefully you guys can help me find the right one with the right price! BTW, i currently have a C32 hehe. Thank you all! Alan
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TheAcAvenger Brigadier General 134 Rep 3,132 Posts Drives: 2018 R35 GTR / 2007 E92 335i Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: 757 > Nova > Denver iTrader: (1)	I wouldn't buy a lemoned 335i honestly. Keep looking though. You should be able to find an 07 under 25k miles under $35k, I think. __________________ 2018 R35 GT-R Cicio800 \| 2007 E92 335i - RB Turbos, TC Kline DA Coils, HPA M3 Suspension, Quaife LSD, Stoptech BBK, JB4, FuelIT, AR Downpipes, RDSport Quads, Stett OC, Helix IC, Volk TE-37, Vorsteiner V-35, OSS Headlights \| Retired - 2015 F82 M4
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mekeni Second Lieutenant 6 Rep 242 Posts Drives: LCI E90 Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: cowtown iTrader: (4)	don't ever buy a lemon... give yourself time, there's plenty of them out there.
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alchang32 Private First Class 12 Rep 128 Posts Drives: W203 C32 AMG/ E92 335 Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Glendale iTrader: (3)	Dealer told me that it was some electronic glitch, but he also mentioned that check engine light, but nothing too serious. So im not sure. The price is really tempting, but would i get screwed in the long run? BTW is I-DRIVE worth it?
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02-10-2009, 11:01 PM	#7
Craig@SupremePower G.O.A.T.! 1001 Rep 74,998 Posts Drives: '18 GMC Yukon XL Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: New Jersey iTrader: (14)	no lemons....
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dkhm3 Brigadier General 1882 Rep 3,341 Posts Drives: 991.2 GT3 2020 X3MC Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Orange County iTrader: (0)	NO. dont. __________________ Currently: 2018 GT3 2020 X3MC Previously: 1999 M3 2002 M3 2005 S4 2008 C63 2015 M3 2016 X5M 2019 911S
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02-10-2009, 11:52 PM	#10
Yoshii Major General 140 Rep 8,650 Posts Drives: 2008 Titanium Silver 335i Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Corona, Ca iTrader: (2)	screw that...i wouldn't spend that much money to get some car that has a lemon to its title...just get a new one or keep looking for a better deal... __________________ SOLD-2008 E90 TiAg 335i SOLD-2011 Mitsubishi Evo X 2013 F10 535i Msport, KW V3's with more Mods to come!!!
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02-11-2009, 11:02 AM	#11
shaddai former N54 owner 11 Rep 607 Posts Drives: 2008 Audi S4 DTM Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Bay Area, CA iTrader: (0) Garage List 2008 335i [0.00]	They don't call it a lemon for nothing. Pass. Especially on the 335's... __________________ +lemon
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02-11-2009, 11:24 AM	#12
guydude Second Lieutenant 17 Rep 299 Posts Drives: M2 ordered Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: So-Cal iTrader: (0) Garage List 2016 BMW M2 [0.00]	keep looking....I drive is AMAZING ....I would hate my 335 it it didnt have it. I wouldn't go with a lemon car though....In my 335i , my motor blew at 1400 miles!!! LAME!! But they shipped a new motor from germany(or so they said) and did an engine swap. Car runs great, and clean title....But that goes to show, CHECK SERVICE RECORDS BEFORE PURCHASING. GL....welcome to a 'real' ballers car
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02-11-2009, 11:28 AM	#14
E86S54 Major 16 Rep 1,045 Posts Drives: Moupe Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: SoCal iTrader: (0)	not worth it...wait for another car __________________ This is how I roll
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02-11-2009, 12:05 PM	#15
Xiaofeng Captain 35 Rep 712 Posts Drives: 2007.5 E90 335xi Montego/Lemon Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Colorado iTrader: (1) Garage List 2007 E90 335xi [0.00] 1991 325iX [0.00]	Welcome to E90post, alchang32. We hope you enjoy your stay, and look forward to seeing your BMW when you decide on one. In the meantime, pics of the C32 would be nice too. In response to your question, the only way I would buy a lemon is if that happened to be the color of the leather inside. (A little E90 humor for you. Look here for some pictures, if you're curious.) But in all seriousness, buying a car with a lemon title seems to me as inviting trouble and inconvenience. The car was obviously lemoned for a reason, and thus already has a history of problems. If you can find out exactly what has been done on the car, and if you decide that the risk is worth it, then you can pick it up, but I would opt to pass on that particular car. In regards to iDrive, that would depend on how comfortable you are with technology and electronics in general. Some people hate it, some feel that it's somewhat of an acquired taste, but I personally really like it. One of the unique features of iDrive is that everything is accessible through a single user interface, which vastly unclutters the dash. Instead of having 50 different buttons strewn throughout your dash, you have a single "mouse-like" knob that does everything. Also, unlike many other systems that lock you out of most of the system's features, everything on iDrive is accessible at all times. Virtually everything that I want to do on iDrive, I can do without even looking at the screen anymore, which helps keep my eyes on the road rather than looking away and scanning for the correct button to press. However, the best advice I can give you is to simply find a car with iDrive and play with it for a while. Find a 2008 or older version to play with, if you're looking for a CPO or used vehicle. The 2009 iDrive versions have been significantly upgraded (and are phenomenal, by the way), but typically require a new car. All in all, just remember to go slowly and not let your emotions overrule your better judgment. There are lots of cars out there to choose from, and when you find that perfect one, you'll be much happier. Good luck on your search! Oh, and apologies for the lengthy post! __________________
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methodtim Brigadier General 374 Rep 3,883 Posts Drives: Audi RS Q8 Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Darkness there, and nothing more iTrader: (0) Garage List 2021 Audi RS Q8 [0.00] 2021 BMW X3 M40i [0.00] 2017 Toyota Tacoma [0.00]	^ Yeah, what the dude with the funny hair said. Let me extend you a welcome as well. This is probably the nicest we're going to be to you, so enjoy it while you can. __________________
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T3X4S Second Lieutenant 7 Rep 248 Posts Drives: 2013 E92 MW M3 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: DFW iTrader: (0) Garage List 2018 991.2 Targa 4S [0.00] 2013 BMW E92 M3 [0.00]	Avoid. The lemon may not make a great lemonade.
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jlstyle Lieutenant Colonel 357 Rep 1,762 Posts Drives: Porsche Panamera Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: USA iTrader: (0) Garage List 2014 Audi S7 [0.00] 2015 BMW X5 [0.00]	I've personally had a lemon z4 that BMW bought back. It had electrical glitch and constant CEL triggering. They even offered me big chunk of cash if I were to keep the car but I denied it. Don't buy a lemoned car, it only give you a nightmares. And as far as i-drive goes....editors in edmund.com calls it so stupid and just so damn stupid that it just never gets better. But personally I kinda like it even though it doesn't give you much.
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vadim Lieutenant 15 Rep 445 Posts Drives: Tesla Model Y Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Virginia iTrader: (0)	I prefer not having the iDrive - just hate the horrible hump in the middle. It does offer some extra functionality, though (besides navigation). For example, the iDrive does show which bulb is out as opposed to just a generic bulb-out indication w/o iDrive - you then have to walk around and find out which one it is. A nuisance - my C230k w/o COMAND showed the exact location of a burnt bulb. The nav portion of the iDrive, though, is nothing to sing about. My PDA phone with TomTom does a better job and is more flexible as you can carry it around in you pocket when needed. As for buying a refurbished lemon - find out exactly what it was. If it is related to the engine or the drivetrain - avoid it by all means.
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cliverman Captain 956 Rep 940 Posts Drives: 2022 X3M Join Date: May 2005 Location: Durham,NC iTrader: (4) Garage List 2011 BMW M3 [10.00]	Coming over from a C32...I had a C32. Nice ride. Super quick car. I loved the straight ahead speed but I didn't enjoy the drive. You'll love the drive of the 335 so much better. A few mods and you'll be set. Don't buy a lemon. In the r $30K range you'll be able to find a few 335i's out there but I'd suggest buying a new one. With the current financing you should be able to get a deal. Here's a pic of my old C32 (EVOSPORT STAGE 2) 1/4 Mile ET: 12.891 1/4 Mile MPH: 110.260 Attached Images __________________ 2022 X3M 2017 Cayman (Ret) 2019 X3 M40i (Ret.) 2015 F82 ///M4 (Ret.) 2011 E92 ///M3 (Ret.)
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02-11-2009, 06:14 PM	#21
bsamoul Major General 167 Rep 7,433 Posts Drives: E90 325i Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Walnut Creek, California iTrader: (2)	Never buy a lemon. Much less one that is from California that somehow made its way to Illinois. __________________ -Brian 2X 2006 BMW 325i [Electric Red & Mystic Blue] \| ZPP \| V1 \| Rear Fogs \| M3 Lip Spoiler \| EAS RemoteKey \| BMS Powerbox \| Projector90 Headlights w/ LED AE \| LED plate lights \| OEM Blacklines http://www.tech-shine.com
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02-11-2009, 06:16 PM	#22
Ramos Colonel 863 Rep 2,897 Posts Drives: G20 2020 M340 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: So-Cal iTrader: (6)	So many reasons it could have been a lemon.. Just to name a few possibilities: Fuel Pump Tailights / electrical problems on the E92's Waste gate rattle What am I forgetting you guys? You could probably live with some of these known issues although why should you? The deal you are getting on this car is not worth it.. For $25K or less, maybe
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