335i; Manual or Auto Paddle Shifters?

bimmer4me · 07-06-2006, 12:36 PM

If you are getting a 335i or would like one, which would you prefer, the manual tranny or the new super-de-duper auto tranny with the paddle shifters?

Asiann · 07-06-2006, 12:37 PM

Manual

HRC · 07-06-2006, 12:39 PM

Damn, I saw the results and thought everyone wanted the paddle shift! lol, I was the first voter.

Danny

StewtheBassman · 07-06-2006, 12:41 PM

paddle. the technology is getting MUCH better.

Gitta · 07-06-2006, 12:47 PM

I just test drove two M3's this past weekend (one manual and one SMG). As a manual driver, it is no contest for me, manual is the way to go. The paddles worked well on the SMG, but I just couldn't get used to not clutching. If you don't know how to drive manual, that would be the only reason to get it as far as I can see. The full auto SMG mode was horrible, IMO.

mkoesel · 07-06-2006, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by bimmer4me

If you are getting a 335i or would like one, which would you prefer, the manual tranny or the new super-de-duper auto tranny with the paddle shifters?

That super-de-duper tranny still can't rev match a downshift. Don't care if a shifts in .000001 sec, no rev match = shitty driving experience.

Asiann · 07-06-2006, 12:59 PM

You might as well have a Step if you want paddles. No clutch!

ALPINE6SPD · 07-06-2006, 12:59 PM

6 speed if you like to drive

thekewl1 · 07-06-2006, 01:00 PM

manual...i enjoy driving too much to get an auto, paddle shifter or not.

Squawks · 07-06-2006, 01:12 PM

They should just make an automated manual with hydraulics with a functional clutch pedal - one that moves on its own through hydraulics when in auto mode while also maintaing a manual mode for manual use. Get the best of both worlds.

335I talian Stallion NJ · 07-06-2006, 01:37 PM

Auto for me, I can't wait to experience this new tranny.... and paddle shifters!

Insider · 07-06-2006, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by mkoesel

That super-de-duper tranny still can't rev match a downshift. Don't care if a shifts in .000001 sec, no rev match = shitty driving experience.

The 2007 auto is new. It does rev match on downshifts. Just read the reviews about the 2007 Jaguar coupe, it uses the same new 6 speed auto from ZF that the BMW will be using.

mkoesel · 07-06-2006, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Insider

The 2007 auto is new. It does rev match on downshifts. Just read the reviews about the 2007 Jaguar coupe, it uses the same new 6 speed auto from ZF that the BMW will be using.

I read about Infiniti's new one coming out, but had not heard anyone else with this. I am anxious to try it out. If this is the case, then great. I'd still probably go with a manual, but this removes the largest drawback of auto tranny, IMHO

Now, next problem: will it let you bounce the motor at rev limit and hold the gear, or will it shift for you?

sbkim · 07-06-2006, 02:10 PM

I am getting an auto but without paddle. What advantages does the paddle offer other than offering shifting using fingers?

txusa03 · 07-06-2006, 02:11 PM

got to stick with manual, those paddles on the smg cost too much

HRC · 07-06-2006, 02:12 PM

Automatic is not the same as paddleshift manual. Paddleshift is a manual without a clutch. Auto has a torque converter.

Danny

Quote:

Originally Posted by sbkim

I am getting an auto but without paddle. What advantages does the paddle offer other than offering shifting using fingers?

HRC · 07-06-2006, 02:14 PM

Paddleshift is not an automatic transmission.

Danny

Quote:

Originally Posted by 335I talian Stallion NJ

Auto for me, I can't wait to experience this new tranny.... and paddle shifters!

whippersnapper · 07-06-2006, 02:18 PM

Buttons on the wheel are just a gimmick, it is still an auto isn't it?

335I talian Stallion NJ · 07-06-2006, 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HRC

Paddleshift is not an automatic transmission.

Danny

I didn't say it was..... I said the new auto tranny and meant playing around with the paddle shifters...... not a paddleshift tranny

vladinecko · 07-06-2006, 02:20 PM

if stick is available in any of my future cars, that's what i'll get.

Squawks · 07-06-2006, 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HRC

Automatic is not the same as paddleshift manual. Paddleshift is a manual without a clutch. Auto has a torque converter.

Danny

Danny, there are many autos with torque converters with paddler shifters. For example, the new Lexus IS. They have paddles - but they are based off of torque converting auto trannies. They are not dual-clutch based. Or the new Acura RDX.

The paddles work the exact same way as the steptronic except that the paddles are more conveniently located on the wheels for easier/faster access.

HRC · 07-06-2006, 02:38 PM

True, However I was referring to BMW's SMG not being an automatic! Sorry, I mixed up paddleshift with SMG.

Danny

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Originally Posted by Squawks

Danny, there are many autos with torque converters with paddler shifters. For example, the new Lexus IS. They have paddles - but they are based off of torque converting auto trannies. They are not dual-clutch based. Or the new Acura RDX.

The paddles work the exact same way as the steptronic except that the paddles are more conveniently located on the wheels for easier/faster access.

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