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      04-27-2009, 09:53 AM   #1
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E92 Irritants...just venting!

Yes, the E92 is an outstanding car in all respects that matter most. But when my lease is up in Fall, I definitely will not be getting another one. Instead, I'll get an E90, an E46 coupe, or something else entirely, because of ergonomic irritants I have with my '07 coupe...
Rear access door sliders -- are reluctant to work. They must be pushed from the bottom cushion and don't automatically return to the previous position. My service manager acknowledges that this is a design problem... one I never had with my E46 coupe.

Seat belt "butler" -- only works half of the time. when it doesn't work it gets in the way of getting the belt. And they've tried to fix it.

Steering wheel blocks view of speedo and turn signals. The turn signals are especially problematic because of the soft detents on the stalk... it's not always clear "where you're at" if you can't see the blinker, and the clicker isn't very loud. (BMW could at least solve the speedo problem by making digital speed one of the display choices in the dashboard.)

Can't see radio dial with polarized sunglasses. This has been reported in more than one review since the E90 came out, but continues to be reported... apparently, BMW hasn't addressed it. Why not? My E46 didn't have this problem.

Two-step starting process. This is really dumb. Wouldn't a key have worked better? Yes, you can solve the problem with the $500 "comfort access" option, and if a get an E90 I will definitely get it. But should you really be required to pay that at these prices??? Even a lowly Nissan Altima makes it standard.

I loved my E46 coupe and regret not buying it at the end of my lease. I don't love the E92, even though it is a terrific driver. It's just not a "comfortable companion"...it's more like an "irritating showoff" to me.
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      04-27-2009, 09:55 AM   #2
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Still waiting for the next gen 335i coupe.
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      04-27-2009, 10:01 AM   #3
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I can't say I share any of your complaints
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      04-27-2009, 10:04 AM   #4
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Sounds a bit petty.

Cant have the perfect car....sorry
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      04-27-2009, 10:05 AM   #5
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steering wheel tilts and telescopes; adjust it so you can see the speedo. How hard is that?

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Steering wheel blocks view of speedo and turn signals. The turn signals are especially problematic because of the soft detents on the stalk... it's not always clear "where you're at" if you can't see the blinker, and the clicker isn't very loud. (BMW could at least solve the speedo problem by making digital speed one of the display choices in the dashboard.)
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the butler gtg its annoying as hell and the seatbelt chime blows!!
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In my 09 Coupe, the driver's seat will go back to the previous position, only if you press the memory button, or use the key fob. I agree with you on the seatbelt valet. Although, the Idrive screen works great with polarized lenses. My big gripe with the turn signals is the proximity of the cruise control stalk. I've often gotten them confused, turning off the cruise rather than turning on the turn signal...
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steering wheel tilts and telescopes; adjust it so you can see the speedo. How hard is that?
It's pretty hard for some people.
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In my 09 Coupe, the driver's seat will go back to the previous position, only if you press the memory button, or use the key fob. I agree with you on the seatbelt valet. Although, the Idrive screen works great with polarized lenses. My big gripe with the turn signals is the proximity of the cruise control stalk. I've often gotten them confused, turning off the cruise rather than turning on the turn signal...
I actually flashed my brights a few times on my last roadtrip, as I'm not used to using the CC stalk yet.... That was kind of awkward.
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Complete agreement on the steering wheel blocking view, and that they should have at least made the clicker more audible.

I move the tilt/telescope to get into comfortable position, and it just works out that having a tall torso doesn't give me much options. None of the info I want to see is visible, just all of the useful info.

I bet the polarized display allows the display to be more visible in sunlight. In that respect it is awesome compared to others I've seen.
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      04-27-2009, 12:29 PM   #11
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steering wheel tilts and telescopes; adjust it so you can see the speedo. How hard is that?
No kidding!! WTF?

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Sounds a bit petty.
My thoughts exactly. For all it does exceptionally well, those are such little issues. And IMO, the turn signal clicker has got to be the most audible of any vehicle I've ever driven (besides my Grandma's Grand Marque...).
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I actually flashed my brights a few times on my last roadtrip, as I'm not used to using the CC stalk yet.... That was kind of awkward.
+1
I've done that a few times myself, but would you dislike the car because of it?
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I actually flashed my brights a few times on my last roadtrip, as I'm not used to using the CC stalk yet.... That was kind of awkward.
i got a couple cars really mad at me cuz i accidentally flashed my brights at them lol
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All cars have quirks. Try my 05 C6 Vette if you want an annoyance. It also has comfort access (keyless entry), and it's standard. Great! BUT, you have to have put the car in reverse to turn it off. If you don't put it in reverse, the engine stops, but the electrical accessories remain energized. Forever.

So, if you forget to put it in reverse, the battery drains within 48 hours. THAT'S a genuine annoyance, and to really make things fun, the doors are operated only by electrical relays, no mechanical handle. So, if you don't have your single key to open the trunk when the battery dies, you're really up the creek. Apparently a DOT rule about reverse and keyless entry for 05 models....

Oh, and I find I put the E90 in reverse when I shut the engine down, out of pure habit now...
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I've done that a few times myself, but would you dislike the car because of it?
No not at all. In fact, I kind of facepalmed and blamed it on myself for being an artard. You can't blame the car for you not being able to operate it properly.
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      04-27-2009, 01:23 PM   #16
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The steering wheel issue is a concern. The rest of your compaints are not true.
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the butler gtg its annoying as hell and the seatbelt chime blows!!
The butler, for me atleast, is probably the most useful part of this entire car.. I can't imagine what my tucked in shirts would look like around the waste if I had to reach all the way back and grab the belt on my own.. And I think the butler thing has only missed the belt twice since I've owned the car (20k miles).

I do however agree with the op that the polarized radio issue is terrible.. I cannot believe that was not tested prior to producing these cars, pretty amazing.
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I actually flashed my brights a few times on my last roadtrip, as I'm not used to using the CC stalk yet.... That was kind of awkward.
haha same here.. i was embarrassed.
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what does he mean by rear access door sliders?
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Seat belt "butler" -- only works half of the time. when it doesn't work it gets in the way of getting the belt. And they've tried to fix it.
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what does he mean by rear access door sliders?
I scratched my head on that one too...
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I scratched my head on that one too...

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I think those are all pretty petty too. Some people are harder to please than others IMO.
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