[demosthenes]

The June 2009 issue compares the 328i, A4 2.0T Quattro, TL SH-AWD, G37 Sport. The 328i won again! It won their last comparison test (Jan 2008).

It did 0-60 in 5.9 and 0.92 on the skidpad.

[Saintor]

The only thing that mystifies me is. If they praise the 328i so much in their text, why didn't they gave the top marks in 'gotta have it'? The G37s got it.

[demosthenes]

The 328 won because it's the best overall sports sedan. The G37 is a lot quicker and therefore more exciting, but the 328 is the better overall car and more fun to drive.

[Kilgore Trout]

I have no idea what C & D is doing when they drive their cars, but 5.9 is not a believe 0-60 time for the 328i.

[matts335]

Their 0-60 times are always generous. If I remember correctly, they put the 335 at 4.8 (something less than 5 seconds anyway).

[GregL]

Originally Posted by Kilgore Trout

I have no idea what C & D is doing when they drive their cars, but 5.9 is not a believe 0-60 time for the 328i.

They got 5.6 on the 330i so I guess that sounds reasonable.

[demosthenes]

Originally Posted by Kilgore Trout

I have no idea what C & D is doing when they drive their cars, but 5.9 is not a believe 0-60 time for the 328i.

C&D always seems to squeeze the best 0-60 times of the cars they test. I've been following their road tests for decades. 5.9 is believable but most of us couldn't match it.

[Craig@SupremePower]

+1...

Originally Posted by demosthenes

The 328 won because it's the best overall sports sedan. The G37 is a lot quicker and therefore more exciting, but the 328 is the better overall car and more fun to drive.

[jopa489]

Originally Posted by demosthenes

C&D always seems to squeeze the best 0-60 times of the cars they test. I've been following their road tests for decades. It's believable but most of us couldn't match it.

Exactly. A 328i 6MT with an experienced driver can rip off 6s 0-60 runs. C&D's 5.9s figure is certainly not unreasonable.

BMW claims 6.3s with the 6MT and their numbers are always conservative. AOL Autos, Edmunds, and other reviewers have recorded anywhere from 6.0-6.2s. Under ideal conditions another tenth is plenty possible.

Comparatively, BMW claims 6.9s with the Step.

[roozie2001]

Originally Posted by Kilgore Trout

I have no idea what C & D is doing when they drive their cars, but 5.9 is not a believe 0-60 time for the 328i.

theyre professional drivers. im sure theyre a lil better at it than you and i.

[darkphantom]

Originally Posted by roozie2001

theyre professional drivers. im sure theyre a lil better at it than you and i.

Yeah, even though other "professional drivers" in other magazines always somehow can't manage to shed off .2-.3 secs

[AndreyATC]

Is it possible that those times made with 1-foot-roll-off instead of from stop?

[TwinTurboXI]

Originally Posted by AndreyATC

Is it possible that those times made with 1-foot-roll-off instead of from stop?

+1 i heard c&d does something like that...

[demosthenes]

I've read countless 328 vs 335, 3 series vs G35/G37 and 3 series vs TL threads on this forum. I've also read countless comparison tests in the major car magazines. I've also driven most of the contenders. This seems to be how they compare from an enthusiast's perspective:

335 > 328 > G37 > (IS, TL, A4, C350)

[jayely1]

How is the G37 rated worse then the 328i?? Its faster, handles better, nicer interior...I figured the 335i was better then the g37 but controversial.

[MrHarris]

Originally Posted by jayely1

How is the G37 rated worse then the 328i?? Its faster, handles better, nicer interior...I figured the 335i was better then the g37 but controversial.

It's the BMW feel of precision, just compare them both. I find it pretty easy to tell the difference. On paper though the g37 is a very good contender with the 335.

[Kilgore Trout]

Originally Posted by roozie2001

theyre professional drivers. im sure theyre a lil better at it than you and i.

What I'm saying is that those numbers don't reflect real world preformance. I don't believe a typical driver, under ordinary driving circumstances, could come close to that number.

I believe BMW's numbers are about on par with reality

[5soko]

C n D adds 1 foot rolls to there 0-60mph which make them about .2 sec. quicker to 60 then some will assume or see. so a full stop 0-60 would come in around 6.1 here.

Edmunds/insideline gives both if you ever looked at there spec sheets.

But i cant agree more here, the 328i is def the more better car all around!! esp. in Mt

[John 070]

Originally Posted by Kilgore Trout

I have no idea what C & D is doing when they drive their cars, but 5.9 is not a believe 0-60 time for the 328i.

haha don't they say the 335i is 4.8? They stated that they have drank the BMW cool-aid. BMW cannot possibly make a car that they don't give #1 to in a comparison. Didn't they also rate the new M3 over the Carerra, which gets like 27 mpg on the highway while the M3 gets 19?

[gqmd]

Just my feeling...but CnD seems to be biased towards BMWs and Hondas...ot that i seem to mind.

[Michael Schott]

Originally Posted by jayely1

How is the G37 rated worse then the 328i?? Its faster, handles better, nicer interior...I figured the 335i was better then the g37 but controversial.

I wouldn't say the G37 handles better than the 328i. With the ZSP it's the same suspension as the 335 and the BMW suspension is more sophisticated than the Infiniti. Maybe the G37 pulls better skidpad numbers but that doesn't mean it handles better. I'd also argue about the interior. Especially the quality of the materials.

Thanks, Mike.

[demosthenes]

Originally Posted by jayely1

How is the G37 rated worse then the 328i?? Its faster, handles better, nicer interior...I figured the 335i was better then the g37 but controversial.

It's all about which car is the best overall sports sedan. It's not about which car is better in one or two categories. The 3 series has been considered the best overall sports sedan for a long time.