SA assures me that there will be no warranty issues

littleyellowm3 · 06-01-2009, 02:56 PM

Hey guys

I have an 07 coupe with 1.30 and a JB2. I dont have much warranty remaining, so it doesnt really matter to me, but I mentioned, when scheduling the apt, that I have the JB installed, and my SA assured me that unless it is directly causing whatever needs to be fixed, the warranty was a whole will stand. I mentioned that numerous other people had theirs unconditionally revoked, and he said I wont have to worry about that. Wishful thinking? Like I said before, the warranty is almost up and I am purchasing the car when the lease expires, and business is going surprisingly well this year so I am ready to pay to play if need be. I am just curious if what he said will happen will actually be the case.

((Update))

SA called me yesterday...

To tell me that my car is ready and waiting to be picked up! After reading what everyone was saying, I was expecting there to be an issue, even though I was assured, but the car is back in my hands, fully jb2r'd, bypassed, and fitted with a custom fabricated dual cone intake. He said there is no way he or the techs would raise any issues unless it was painfully obvious the tune had caused the issues.

Bubbles · 06-01-2009, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Philritter21

Hey guys

I have an 07 coupe with 1.30 and a JB2. I dont have much warranty remaining, so it doesnt really matter to me, but I mentioned, when scheduling the apt, that I have the JB installed, and my SA assured me that unless it is directly causing whatever needs to be fixed, the warranty was a whole will stand. I mentioned that numerous other people had theirs unconditionally revoked, and he said I wont have to worry about that. Wishful thinking? Like I said before, the warranty is almost up and I am purchasing the car when the lease expires, and business is going surprisingly well this year so I am ready to pay to play if need be. I am just curious if what he said will happen will actually be the case.

No, but if it makes you feel good---think yes

samps · 06-01-2009, 03:12 PM

WTF? Why are you disclosing that you have a PB? If something goes wrong while you have warranty, take that shit out before going in for service.

RambleJ · 06-01-2009, 03:19 PM

Take it out before service its only 4 wires and a solenoid bypass, it won't take you that long.. Now since your car is a lease, if the warranty gets voided, BMW most likely will not CPO the car which will decrease the resale value of the car which will most likely come out of your pocket in the end. But hey im just guessing, I could be wrong.. Ask the Dinan folks, since BMW knows their ECU has been flashed their cars can no longer be CPO'd in turn decreasing resale value of the car...

littleyellowm3 · 06-01-2009, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by samps

WTF? Why are you disclosing that you have a PB? If something goes wrong while you have warranty, take that shit out before going in for service.

Ehh, Im 90% through the warranty, really busy the next few days, and have to have it serviced before thursday when I leave on a 2000 mile trip. I wont have time to take it out.

littleyellowm3 · 06-01-2009, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by RambleJ

Take it out before service its only 4 wires and a solenoid bypass, it won't take you that long.. Now since your car is a lease, if the warranty gets voided, BMW most likely will not CPO the car which will decrease the resale value of the car which will most likely come out of your pocket in the end. But hey im just guessing, I could be wrong.. Ask the Dinan folks, since BMW knows their ECU has been flashed their cars can no longer be CPO'd in turn decreasing resale value of the car...

Im keeping this car for a loooong time.

samps · 06-01-2009, 03:28 PM

Then all I can say is good luck, and I hope nothing bad comes of leaving it in there (honestly). That said, if by any chance something does go wrong, please know that you have NO ONE but to blame but YOURSELF.

Edit: Given that you are 90% through warranty, there probably isn't much you'll be denied for if by chance you are.

RambleJ · 06-01-2009, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Philritter21

Im keeping this car for a loooong time.

Well at the end of the day its your car, your warranty and your dollar.. So do as you please. I was just throwing in my .02

littleyellowm3 · 06-01-2009, 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by samps

Then all I can say is good luck, and I hope nothing bad comes of leaving it in there (honestly). That said, if by any chance something does go wrong, please know that you have NO ONE but to blame but YOURSELF.

Edit: Given that you are 90% through warranty, there probably isn't much you'll be denied for if by chance you are.

Whoever said anything about blaming anyone? Im not going to be mad or upset or looking to blame anybody

If I lose the 3900 miles left

samps · 06-01-2009, 04:35 PM

No, I'm not insinuating anything. Just thinking that if they were to deny you, you would undoubtedly get mad (I sure as hell would). If you wouldn't get mad, I think you are one of the few. Just saying...that's all.

Mr. 5 · 06-01-2009, 04:44 PM

Here's the problem...
The SA can promise you the world, but the TECH is the guy that denies your warranty.

The tech is the guy that works on your car.
The tech is the guy that notices what caused the problem.
The tech is the guy that sees what bolts have been taken off and what has been messed around with.

If anyone from BMW engineering just happens to visit the dealer that day and see a tech doing warranty work on a car that has no cats and is an inch off the gound, who do you think will be in trouble? You guessed it--the tech.

Here's some advice...Find the tech and get the same statement from him/her.
If you don't know one, find one or take your mods off the car.

mmm def · 06-01-2009, 04:49 PM

how many miles are on your car? if it's 48k or so then fine. 38k??..quit being lazy and take it out, or else risk the usual dealer BS.

Driver72 · 06-01-2009, 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. 5

Here's the problem...
The SA can promise you the world, but the TECH is the guy that denies your warranty.

The tech is the guy that works on your car.
The tech is the guy that notices what caused the problem.
The tech is the guy that sees what bolts have been taken off and what has been messed around with.

Here's some advice...Find the tech and get the same statement from him/her.
If you don't know one, find one or take your mods off the car.

Ditto.

The tech can see the mods and if something is wrong, flatly refuse to work on the car at the "warrantied" rate he's paid.
Tech's are paid MORE for non-warranty work than they are for warrantied work. It's clearly an incentive from BMW and the dealers for techs to be watchful for modifications that caused (or can cause) issues.

If your warranty is about over anyway, don't worry about it.
But if you have several thousand miles left (and are about to go on a 2000 mile road trip with the car) I'd say take the 30 minutes and take it out.

It would kind of suck for you to get 900 miles into your trip and something go wrong and then have to pay thousands of dollars to fix it while you are a 2 day drive from home.

Good luck.

mchaskell · 06-01-2009, 05:57 PM

There is a story floating around here somewhere, I believe titled "Warranty Gone" where the SA told the OP that there was "no problem with mods". Later in a phone call the same SA tells the OP that his drive train warranty was voided because the tech found tamper codes and BMW NA said to stop the diagnostic work because there was no longer a warranty to worry about. The SA told the OP he was sorry but there was nothing he could do about the voiding of the warranty.

Moral of the story: if you want to keep your warranty remove your mods and clear any codes before service no matter what the SA tells you.

Tortfeasor 335xi · 06-01-2009, 07:11 PM

Get it in writing or its a worthless assurance. And even then, the only value of the written record is for negotiations/legal action later on when they don't honor your warranty.

JayKay335i · 06-01-2009, 08:04 PM

If you plan on keeping it for a long time, I'd take it out and also pick up an extended warranty. Shit happens, especially with these cars.

David 12 · 06-01-2009, 08:07 PM

You probably got your car a little earlier then when I leased mine (January 2007.) If so, that is when the lease rates were very favorable for the consumer. Just make sure the residual is not too high on your car or it may make sense to just walk away. That is unless BMW will negotiate a fair price.

Oh, and your SA may mean well but ...

wj4 · 06-01-2009, 08:21 PM

You know your SA is not the highest power in the totem poll.

Diggy Diggy · 06-01-2009, 08:22 PM

Take it off, don't say we didn't warn you.

Sniz · 06-01-2009, 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JayKay335i

If you plan on keeping it for a long time, I'd take it out and also pick up an extended warranty. Shit happens, especially with these cars.

that is actually some good advice.

Mr. 5 · 06-01-2009, 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JayKay335i

If you plan on keeping it for a long time, I'd take it out and also pick up an extended warranty. Shit happens, especially with these cars.

Yep, that's what I did.
I got the CPO and am covered until 100k.

jzchen · 06-01-2009, 10:06 PM

This is an honest person. Everyone else is committing some kind of fraud removing the piggy and then going to the dealer for issues that could be directly caused by it. It is just as bad as the dealer denying warranty for something unrelated to a piggy but because a dealer/BMW supposedly has big pockets people don't realize/think that is what they are doing...

Some have said you have to pay to play, but I think a lot of people are trying to avoid that saying...

06-01-2009, 02:56 PM	#1
littleyellowm3 Second Lieutenant 38 Rep 215 Posts Drives: MR E90 M3 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: NC iTrader: (0)	SA assures me that there will be no warranty issues ((Updated)) Hey guys I have an 07 coupe with 1.30 and a JB2. I dont have much warranty remaining, so it doesnt really matter to me, but I mentioned, when scheduling the apt, that I have the JB installed, and my SA assured me that unless it is directly causing whatever needs to be fixed, the warranty was a whole will stand. I mentioned that numerous other people had theirs unconditionally revoked, and he said I wont have to worry about that. Wishful thinking? Like I said before, the warranty is almost up and I am purchasing the car when the lease expires, and business is going surprisingly well this year so I am ready to pay to play if need be. I am just curious if what he said will happen will actually be the case. ((Update)) SA called me yesterday... To tell me that my car is ready and waiting to be picked up! After reading what everyone was saying, I was expecting there to be an issue, even though I was assured, but the car is back in my hands, fully jb2r'd, bypassed, and fitted with a custom fabricated dual cone intake. He said there is no way he or the techs would raise any issues unless it was painfully obvious the tune had caused the issues. __________________ Melbourne Red E90 M3 - E39 540i The original user of the animated Bert and Ernie avatar. Except no substitutes. Last edited by littleyellowm3; 06-05-2009 at 01:01 PM..
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samps Captain 26 Rep 671 Posts Drives: Transit Join Date: May 2008 Location: GVA iTrader: (2)	WTF? Why are you disclosing that you have a PB? If something goes wrong while you have warranty, take that shit out before going in for service.
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RambleJ Colonel 60 Rep 2,014 Posts Drives: F10 535i M-sport Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Back in teh so cal iTrader: (2)	Take it out before service its only 4 wires and a solenoid bypass, it won't take you that long.. Now since your car is a lease, if the warranty gets voided, BMW most likely will not CPO the car which will decrease the resale value of the car which will most likely come out of your pocket in the end. But hey im just guessing, I could be wrong.. Ask the Dinan folks, since BMW knows their ECU has been flashed their cars can no longer be CPO'd in turn decreasing resale value of the car...
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samps Captain 26 Rep 671 Posts Drives: Transit Join Date: May 2008 Location: GVA iTrader: (2)	Then all I can say is good luck, and I hope nothing bad comes of leaving it in there (honestly). That said, if by any chance something does go wrong, please know that you have NO ONE but to blame but YOURSELF. Edit: Given that you are 90% through warranty, there probably isn't much you'll be denied for if by chance you are.
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samps Captain 26 Rep 671 Posts Drives: Transit Join Date: May 2008 Location: GVA iTrader: (2)	No, I'm not insinuating anything. Just thinking that if they were to deny you, you would undoubtedly get mad (I sure as hell would). If you wouldn't get mad, I think you are one of the few. Just saying...that's all.
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Mr. 5 Modder Raider 753 Rep 8,633 Posts Drives: M3 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Surf City, HB iTrader: (31) Garage List 2007 e90 335i [8.00]	Here's the problem... The SA can promise you the world, but the TECH is the guy that denies your warranty. The tech is the guy that works on your car. The tech is the guy that notices what caused the problem. The tech is the guy that sees what bolts have been taken off and what has been messed around with. If anyone from BMW engineering just happens to visit the dealer that day and see a tech doing warranty work on a car that has no cats and is an inch off the gound, who do you think will be in trouble? You guessed it--the tech. Here's some advice...Find the tech and get the same statement from him/her. If you don't know one, find one or take your mods off the car. __________________ e36 M3 Coupe, e36 325i Sedan e90 335i--SOLD Best 60-130-------------9.15 Seconds------------------WWW.MR5RACING.COM
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mmm def Colonel 144 Rep 2,610 Posts Drives: 21 330, 19 ND2 RF, 11 RX350 Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: NJ iTrader: (0)	how many miles are on your car? if it's 48k or so then fine. 38k??..quit being lazy and take it out, or else risk the usual dealer BS.
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mchaskell Traveler 8 Rep 173 Posts Drives: 135i Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Never where I want to be. iTrader: (0)	There is a story floating around here somewhere, I believe titled "Warranty Gone" where the SA told the OP that there was "no problem with mods". Later in a phone call the same SA tells the OP that his drive train warranty was voided because the tech found tamper codes and BMW NA said to stop the diagnostic work because there was no longer a warranty to worry about. The SA told the OP he was sorry but there was nothing he could do about the voiding of the warranty. Moral of the story: if you want to keep your warranty remove your mods and clear any codes before service no matter what the SA tells you. __________________ 135i SGM, Grey w/Grey Poplar interior.
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Tortfeasor 335xi Corporate Hack 4 Rep 288 Posts Drives: '08 335xi Coupe Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Princeton, NJ / Philly, PA iTrader: (0)	Get it in writing or its a worthless assurance. And even then, the only value of the written record is for negotiations/legal action later on when they don't honor your warranty. __________________ New Car: 2008 335xi Coupe Earlier Car: 2004 STi (got stolen) Earlier Earlier Car: 1995 Mustang GT (416 whp and a blown engine) Really Much Earlier Car: 1988 Mazda 626 TURBO
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JayKay335i Banned 189 Rep 5,046 Posts Drives: ///M323 DCT Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: North Dakota; its best DUHHHHHH iTrader: (1)	If you plan on keeping it for a long time, I'd take it out and also pick up an extended warranty. Shit happens, especially with these cars.
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David 12 Major 127 Rep 1,048 Posts Drives: 2019 BMW X5 50i BSM, M Sport Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Omaha iTrader: (0)	You probably got your car a little earlier then when I leased mine (January 2007.) If so, that is when the lease rates were very favorable for the consumer. Just make sure the residual is not too high on your car or it may make sense to just walk away. That is unless BMW will negotiate a fair price. Oh, and your SA may mean well but ...
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jzchen Captain 12 Rep 656 Posts Drives: '08 335xi E90 Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Arcadia, CA iTrader: (0)	This is an honest person. Everyone else is committing some kind of fraud removing the piggy and then going to the dealer for issues that could be directly caused by it. It is just as bad as the dealer denying warranty for something unrelated to a piggy but because a dealer/BMW supposedly has big pockets people don't realize/think that is what they are doing... Some have said you have to pay to play, but I think a lot of people are trying to avoid that saying...
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