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06-16-2009, 07:05 PM | #1 |
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Euro (Matte Black) Side Mirror Swap
I always liked the matte black side mirrors that came on the E93 M3 in the US and the E9* M3 lineup in Europe. I felt the gloss black housings that came on the American E92 M3 picked up water spots and scratches too easily, so I went ahead and ordered the left and right European housings from ecstuning.com: part numbers 51168041911 and 51168041912. They cost a little more than $600, but I sold my old gloss black housings to an E90Post member for $450, so I'm not losing too much. The following is a DIY to swap out your current mirrors for the Euro versions.
New matte black housing as it came from the factory: My door trim is already removed in this picture. You need to position a flat head screwdriver behind the outer end of the trim, gently ply up w/ the screwdriver, then pull the rest of the trim off with your hand. The white parts shown are anchors that hold the trim in place. It's a wise idea to put a towel or business card underneath the screwdriver so you don't damage your door panel. There are 4 hex head screws that help hold the door panel in place that you need to remove w/ a screwdriver. With a towel or business card behind your screwdriver, insert a flat head screwdriver between the door panel and the door itself. You should insert the screwdriver near the outer bottom part of the door as there are white door plugs there that need to pop out. Once you hear one plug pop out, put both your hands behind the door panel and pull the entire panel off the door. The door panel has wires connecting it to the door, so make sure you don't pull the door panel too far away from the door, because your wires will rip. In the next picture, the speaker column has already been removed by gently lifting it upward, NOT OUTWARD. If you pull it outward, it will snap the holding joints. Once its removed, unplug the wiring harness from the mirror housing, which is the black circle in the picture below. There are 3 hex head screws that need to be removed in order to take out the mirror housing. Be careful: when removing the last of the 3 screws, make sure you're holding the mirror housing on the outside, or it will fall and break. Remove the old mirror housing and replace it with the new one. Reverse the previous steps: 1. Screw in the mirror housing's 3 hex head screws 2. Secure the speaker column back into place 3. Put the door panel back in place by punching the white plugs back into their respective holes 4. Screw in the door panel's 4 hex head screws 5. Punch door trim back into anchors Now you need to remove the glass from your old mirror housings. Take a flat head screwdriver and put the head behind the glass, gently prying it off one side at a time. Be very careful or the glass may crack. Once its off, remove the two black wires attached to its backside, connect those wires to the new mirror housing, and then simply snap the glass onto the new mirror housings. Wallah! Enjoy your new Euro housings: |
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06-16-2009, 08:11 PM | #4 |
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Eric,
Did you get the euro split mirrors too or just the housing? If you got the euro split mirrors/heated/auto-dim, please take pics. I'm considering getting them, but would like to see them first. Thanks. Kevin
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Who made the carbon mirror covers on your car? Are they the ones from EAS?
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06-19-2009, 11:52 AM | #6 |
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Looks great. I am doing this immediately. I can't stand the gloss finish.
Thanks. P.S. I also sold by OEM mirrors in a single day to a regular 3 series guy. Got $450 just like you did. Based on how fast they seem to be selling it looks like $475-$500 for a used set might be the market price.
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BIG CAVEAT:
The part numbers supplied here are absolutely matte black and fit perfect. However, they are NOT motorized and are NOT auto dimming. I'm really surprised the OP failed to mention this. The connector inside the mirror from the body to the glass is not even compatible with the one from the glass. Perhaps the two black wires that are now loose can somehow be hooked up to the glass for auto dimming? I probably would not have bothered with this mod if I knew that before hand. So the big question is my opinion is the following: Are there matte black, auto dimming motorized housings available, what are the part numbers and who sells them? Anyway, if you are willing to live without motors and auto dimming this is a great write up, I would have screwed this up without it. Getting stuff apart in modern automobiles is often so darn tricky. My added comments/corrections:
Hope these things help.
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07-20-2009, 05:52 PM | #8 |
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OK here is the deal. As I mentioned the part numbers in the OP are matte, non power folding and non auto dimming. The matte, power folding and auto dimming part numbers are:
51168041921 51168041922 and the OEM (US E92, gloss, power folding, auto dimming) are: 51168044795 51168044796 Hope this prevents confusion for anyone else.
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When you said "two black wires," I only have one and it fits perfectly into the glass from the mirror housing. I don't have auto dimming so maybe that's the only thing that's missing? Otherwise the one black wire fits into the rear of the glass perfectly and provides motor movements. |
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The wires that are not used are the ones you can clearly see in your very first picture - the one with the blade/socket connection.
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07-28-2009, 11:59 PM | #11 |
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I didn't mention this in my OP because I do not have the power folding mirror option on my car, thus it wasn't apparent to me that the part numbers I listed didn't include the power folding option.
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Ahhh ha, I thought power folding was standard in the US! This explains everything. This option is part of ZPP, the Premium Package. Thanks.
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Hmmm, so are there Matte mirrors with "Power Folding"???
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Gotta see some better pics before I can tell if they look odd or not.
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Hmmm, can you read (or perhaps more friendly - did you read)? See my post #8 just above.
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Thanks for the nicer version swamp. I must be blind cause I missed it.
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Ive always loved that my E93 came with the matte black mirrors. the only thing that sucked was it also came with aluminum/chrome trim around the windows (unlike the E90 and E92). But I had that painted matte black to match the oem matte black mirrors.
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