Engine shivers in neutral

lcs · 07-27-2009, 08:25 AM

Guys, I have a 328i steptronic. I usually change gear into neutral and pull the handbrakes at long stop lights. My car has only 4000kms and I feel that the car shivers randomly when in neutral but I don't see a change in rpms much. Does anyone know whats wrong with it? Thanks!

CirrusSR22 · 07-27-2009, 09:47 AM

Is the A/C on when it quivers?

Why do you put it in neutral and apply the handbrake? Why not just put it in park? Or better yet, leave it in drive with your foot on the brake. It's not going to hurt it either way you choose, but it seems pointless.

pooskay · 07-27-2009, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by lcs

I usually change gear into neutral and pull the handbrakes at long stop lights.

no need for that lol....it's not a stick.

lcs · 07-27-2009, 10:41 AM

AC is off that that time. I put it in neutral just so I can rest my foot at long traffic lights lol.

persian54 · 07-27-2009, 10:46 AM

is the car cold?

lcs · 07-27-2009, 10:47 AM

The car isn't cold, I drive it for an hour and its still like that.

chazzz · 07-27-2009, 10:49 AM

I do the same thing - at long traffic stop or drive thrus, I put the gear in neutral and either use the foot brake or hand brake.

Nothing wrong with that and I have auto...

pooskay · 07-27-2009, 11:24 AM

ok i misread...i thought you were putting it in N on the regular.

ManyMoonsAgo · 07-27-2009, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by lcs

AC is off that that time. I put it in neutral just so I can rest my foot at long traffic lights lol.

I have the same symptom with my 6-speed manual 335i coupe. From day one the car shuttered when stopped at a light or in traffic and the AC was off. When the AC is off, my RPMs are ~600 then the shudder would cause the RPMs to jump to ~750 (which is normal when the AC is on).

The dealer checked and the car had not thrown any codes so they declared it to be 'normal'. Some on the forums have suggested it is the beginning of a fuel pump failure, but I have never had long cranks, so I don't know what to make of it.

MorpheIS · 07-28-2009, 07:14 AM

I believe this is normal. I have an '08 335i 6mt with 28,000 miles (no problems, no HPFP issues to report.) My have always felt a subtle engine shudder every so often during idling since day 1 with the car. My friend's '07 335i experiences the same. The 335i I test drove had the same as well.

It's quite subtle and most of my passengers never notice it.

ren · 07-28-2009, 08:41 AM

Same story here. Only happens when AC is off in neutral, no codes or anything since i bought the car.

mds82 · 07-28-2009, 11:56 AM

mine did this the last few days. i think i have a bad tank of gas though.... i'm gonna try to use an octane booster. its never did this in the 50k+ miles i've had the car

jopa489 · 07-28-2009, 11:57 AM

To be honest, I've never noticed this in mine.

teebo2345 · 07-28-2009, 12:49 PM

I have noticed this in my 09 335i with 8k miles. It does it in N after a few seconds of idle.

Bimmerdriver17 · 07-29-2009, 07:10 AM

I haven't noticed this in my 335i

D.B.S · 07-29-2009, 07:50 AM

I've never noticed any shivers, but now that you mention it, I think i will go sit in the car and test it out... probably after work today...

djsolution · 07-29-2009, 08:42 AM

My 06 330i does this when idling, both in park and in gear. I don't think it's a big deal though. I always thought is was just the motor mounts transferring some vibration.

samej · 07-29-2009, 09:53 AM

radiator fan tripping on and off?

ren · 07-29-2009, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by samej

radiator fan tripping on and off?

it's more like a rough idle, but not something everybody would notice or care about. It's easier to feel if you touch the shift knob in neutral.

persian54 · 07-29-2009, 10:45 AM

I'll try it today on the way to work....

squakin1200 · 07-29-2009, 04:47 PM

My 06 330i does it too, with or without A/C I guess its just the nature of the beast.

07-27-2009, 08:25 AM	#1
lcs Lieutenant 30 Rep 522 Posts Drives: 328i LCI Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: GTA iTrader: (2)	Engine shivers in neutral Guys, I have a 328i steptronic. I usually change gear into neutral and pull the handbrakes at long stop lights. My car has only 4000kms and I feel that the car shivers randomly when in neutral but I don't see a change in rpms much. Does anyone know whats wrong with it? Thanks!
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CirrusSR22 Major 342 Rep 1,325 Posts Drives: BMW Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Minnesota iTrader: (0)	Is the A/C on when it quivers? Why do you put it in neutral and apply the handbrake? Why not just put it in park? Or better yet, leave it in drive with your foot on the brake. It's not going to hurt it either way you choose, but it seems pointless.
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07-27-2009, 10:41 AM	#4
lcs Lieutenant 30 Rep 522 Posts Drives: 328i LCI Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: GTA iTrader: (2)	AC is off that that time. I put it in neutral just so I can rest my foot at long traffic lights lol.
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persian54 Lieutenant General 923 Rep 15,818 Posts Drives: M760/G83M4 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: The Valley, SoCal iTrader: (298)	is the car cold?
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07-27-2009, 10:47 AM	#6
lcs Lieutenant 30 Rep 522 Posts Drives: 328i LCI Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: GTA iTrader: (2)	The car isn't cold, I drive it for an hour and its still like that.
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07-27-2009, 10:49 AM	#7
chazzz Captain 116 Rep 712 Posts Drives: 2018 Chrysler 300S Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Southern California iTrader: (4)	I do the same thing - at long traffic stop or drive thrus, I put the gear in neutral and either use the foot brake or hand brake. Nothing wrong with that and I have auto... __________________ SOLD - 2007 BMW 335i Sedan, Montego Blue with Lemon seats, AluFelgen CS7 rims & Continental DW tires CURRENT - 2018 Chrysler 300S, Crystal Granite Metallic.
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07-27-2009, 11:24 AM	#8
pooskay Private First Class 6 Rep 100 Posts Drives: e90 330i Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: VA/DC iTrader: (0)	ok i misread...i thought you were putting it in N on the regular.
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07-28-2009, 07:14 AM	#10
MorpheIS Second Lieutenant 5 Rep 250 Posts Drives: 335i 6MT, Sport, Prem Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: New York, NY iTrader: (0)	I believe this is normal. I have an '08 335i 6mt with 28,000 miles (no problems, no HPFP issues to report.) My have always felt a subtle engine shudder every so often during idling since day 1 with the car. My friend's '07 335i experiences the same. The 335i I test drove had the same as well. It's quite subtle and most of my passengers never notice it. __________________ 2008 335i Coupe, 6MT, Monaco Blue, Saddle, Sport, Premium, Comf Access, Nav, iPod, CDV Swap
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07-28-2009, 08:41 AM	#11
ren Captain 62 Rep 839 Posts Drives: 2024 X7 M60i Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: U.S. iTrader: (8)	Same story here. Only happens when AC is off in neutral, no codes or anything since i bought the car.
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07-28-2009, 11:56 AM	#12
mds82 Major General 364 Rep 5,842 Posts Drives: 2006 325xi Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: South Central Connecticut iTrader: (40) Garage List 2006 325xi Snow Pics [0.00] 2006 BMW 325xi [0.00]	mine did this the last few days. i think i have a bad tank of gas though.... i'm gonna try to use an octane booster. its never did this in the 50k+ miles i've had the car
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07-28-2009, 11:57 AM	#13
jopa489 Major General 122 Rep 6,594 Posts Drives: Anything with Wheels Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: USA iTrader: (9)	To be honest, I've never noticed this in mine. __________________ X7 LCI // Incoming C7 ZR1 ZTK // Sebring + TRX // Hydro + Raptor Gen1 Roush // Tuxedo
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teebo2345 Private 11 Rep 50 Posts Drives: E92 M3 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Atlanta, GA iTrader: (0)	I have noticed this in my 09 335i with 8k miles. It does it in N after a few seconds of idle.
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07-29-2009, 07:10 AM	#15
Bimmerdriver17 Major 36 Rep 1,361 Posts Drives: F10 535i xDrive Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: NY iTrader: (4)	I haven't noticed this in my 335i __________________ 2016 F10 535 xDrive Msport Alpine White -Current 2014 F10 535 xDrive SOLD 2009 E90 335i SOLD 2007 E92 6MT SOLD
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D.B.S Lieutenant Colonel 30 Rep 1,748 Posts Drives: '11 X5 35i / '13 S5 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Deployed to Kuwait iTrader: (2)	I've never noticed any shivers, but now that you mention it, I think i will go sit in the car and test it out... probably after work today... __________________ BMW X5 35i: Boopie Exhaust & Intercooler, K&N Drop in Filter, JB3 (3+ psi) 2013 Dodge Challenger R/T: CAI, Catch Can, Custom Exhaust, Headers, 87MM Throttle Body, Diablo Custom 93 OCT Tune
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07-29-2009, 08:42 AM	#17
djsolution Private 3 Rep 95 Posts Drives: 2006 E90 330i Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Alexandria, VA iTrader: (0)	My 06 330i does this when idling, both in park and in gear. I don't think it's a big deal though. I always thought is was just the motor mounts transferring some vibration. __________________ E90 AW 330i Sport/Premium/Terra
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samej First Lieutenant 24 Rep 345 Posts Drives: 2017 F22 M240i xDrive MG Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Ottawa iTrader: (0)	radiator fan tripping on and off?
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persian54 Lieutenant General 923 Rep 15,818 Posts Drives: M760/G83M4 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: The Valley, SoCal iTrader: (298)	I'll try it today on the way to work....
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07-29-2009, 04:47 PM	#21
squakin1200 New Member 0 Rep 5 Posts Drives: 2006 330I White Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Rancho Santa Margarita iTrader: (0)	My 06 330i does it too, with or without A/C I guess its just the nature of the beast.
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