-- Accident Damage E90 Help --

Freedo · 08-06-2009, 03:34 PM

Hi all,

I've been reading up about the E90 thanks to this forum. Possibly one of the best I've been on. With all the detailed pictures, DIY topics, etc, etc.

Now I need a little help buying my first E90 (using it for commuting & towing). The one I'm currently looking at has had quite hard front inpact. I've bought a few accident damaged cars and fixed them up, etc but this one I feel will need a little more work. I'm fine with all 'bolt on' parts & welding.

I think it'll need a good jigging? I've contacted the salvage yard and they say there is no suspension damage.

Pictures; http://autos.blue-sock.com/clients/2...l&value=202312

Opinions please?

Freedo · 08-06-2009, 03:37 PM

The parts I know I'll need;

- Bonnet
- Bumper
- Front 1/4's
- All Rads
- Both head lights
- Kidney grills
- Bumper holder
- Inpact bar
- Slam Panal

And a jig.

I guess it's pretty hard whats damaged judging from the pictures.

02themax · 08-06-2009, 03:48 PM

Wow, that looks like alot of wasted time and money!

Scimitar335i · 08-06-2009, 03:51 PM

with the time and money you are going to put into it.. get a new car..

rkick08 · 08-06-2009, 03:55 PM

wouldnt that car be consider a total lost? that car will never ride the same again.

anyhow GL

Freedo · 08-06-2009, 04:29 PM

This E90 is less than half the price of others for sale though. I could strip the whole front end in around 4 hours, then take it to a jig. I just want to know if this kind of damage will 'jig out'? The parts second hand will cost sub £1000. I can do all the spraying, etc also.

Thanks for the input so far.

And yes, the car is a Cat D.

JayKay335i · 08-06-2009, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Freedo

This E90 is less than half the price of others for sale though. I could strip the whole front end in around 4 hours, then take it to a jig. I just want to know if this kind of damage will 'jig out'? The parts second hand will cost sub £1000. I can do all the spraying, etc also.

Thanks for the input so far.

And yes, the car is a Cat D.

I highly doubt it. And good luck finding those parts for under 1k.

Kiemyster · 08-06-2009, 05:57 PM

dont waste your time. really. get a used one.

jpsum · 08-06-2009, 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Freedo

Hi all,

I've been reading up about the E90 thanks to this forum. Possibly one of the best I've been on. With all the detailed pictures, DIY topics, etc, etc.

Now I need a little help buying my first E90 (using it for commuting & towing). The one I'm currently looking at has had quite hard front inpact. I've bought a few accident damaged cars and fixed them up, etc but this one I feel will need a little more work. I'm fine with all 'bolt on' parts & welding.

I think it'll need a good jigging? I've contacted the salvage yard and they say there is no suspension damage.

Pictures; http://autos.blue-sock.com/clients/2...l&value=202312

Opinions please?

Look at picture 4. The front left wheel is pointing inward (positive camber). No suspension damage?!?!

Borsig · 08-06-2009, 09:47 PM

no no no no no no no.

am_ver · 08-06-2009, 10:55 PM

My e90 had similar damage and the insurance company declared it as a 'total'.

veightkiller · 08-06-2009, 11:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scimitar335i

with the time and money you are going to put into it.. get a new car..

Freedo · 08-07-2009, 09:12 AM

So no one thinks it could be a good buy then?

I can have the whole front stripped in a matter of hours. Having a quick glance on eBay all the buy it now prices cost £900/£1200 max including any small extras.

The price is half the price of others for sale. I won't be able to afford a used one tbh, not this sort of spec any way.

What I really want to know is, will the chassis jig back to normal?

JoeyBananaz18 · 08-07-2009, 09:22 AM

i wish i was as handy and was brave enough to undertake a mission like this. unfortunately this would really get you no where. if you want a good deal, go CPO. if it was a small dent or something, id say no problem, pick it up. an E90 M Sport in Lemans is awesome. but this damage def goes alot deeper than a dent. Dont do it. save your money. Let us know what you do.

Desi · 08-07-2009, 09:22 AM

Be REALLY careful with this car. I've had salvage title cars before that were perfectly fine, I'd never consider a BMW with one though. My car is in the shop as it was rear ended by a friend of mine who was following me home, the damage looked so minor he was going to pay for it himself out of pocket... it looked like nothing. When they got the car up on a hoist, absolute carnage. As soon as the shop told us $10k+ CAD we opted to go through insurance, the damage is fast approaching $20k... The damage appeared so minor that had I been looking for an accident car to repair, I would have pounced on it...

JoeyBananaz18 · 08-07-2009, 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Desi

Be REALLY careful with this car. I've had salvage title cars before that were perfectly fine, I'd never consider a BMW with one though. My car is in the shop as it was rear ended by a friend of mine who was following me home, the damage looked so minor he was going to pay for it himself out of pocket... it looked like nothing. When they got the car up on a hoist, absolute carnage. As soon as the shop told us $10k+ CAD we opted to go through insurance, the damage is fast approaching $20k... The damage appeared so minor that had I been looking for an accident car to repair, I would have pounced on it...

ouch! how fast was he going that it caused almost 20k in damage? what needs to be replaced?

mike-y · 08-07-2009, 10:06 AM

first of all, you really can't see the extent of the damage from looking at pictures on the internet. you need to see the car in person, and get it up on a lift to check it out.

Second, we are not pro body shop people here, so there is no way a bunch of guys on an internet forum are going to be able to tell you everything that is involved and exactly how much it's going to cost in the end.

third, if you are asking these kinds of questions, more than likely, you aren't a pro body shop person either. I really doubt you will be able to just bolt on a bunch of new body parts and fix that car. You really need to get a professional to look at this car and inspect the chassis and subframes. Remember, there is a reason why this car is totaled and is selling for so "cheap".

it may be possible, yes, but it will probably cost a lot more than you think.

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Freedo Registered 1 Rep 4 Posts Drives: e90 coming soon! Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Kent, UK iTrader: (0)	-- Accident Damage E90 Help -- Hi all, I've been reading up about the E90 thanks to this forum. Possibly one of the best I've been on. With all the detailed pictures, DIY topics, etc, etc. Now I need a little help buying my first E90 (using it for commuting & towing). The one I'm currently looking at has had quite hard front inpact. I've bought a few accident damaged cars and fixed them up, etc but this one I feel will need a little more work. I'm fine with all 'bolt on' parts & welding. I think it'll need a good jigging? I've contacted the salvage yard and they say there is no suspension damage. Pictures; http://autos.blue-sock.com/clients/2...l&value=202312 Opinions please?
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Freedo Registered 1 Rep 4 Posts Drives: e90 coming soon! Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Kent, UK iTrader: (0)	The parts I know I'll need; - Bonnet - Bumper - Front 1/4's - All Rads - Both head lights - Kidney grills - Bumper holder - Inpact bar - Slam Panal And a jig. I guess it's pretty hard whats damaged judging from the pictures.
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Scimitar335i Major 201 Rep 1,313 Posts Drives: 2007 335i Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Bay Area iTrader: (12)	with the time and money you are going to put into it.. get a new car.. __________________ 2007 TiAg e90 335i sport. Yes, The e90 "Mustache" is cool!
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rkick08 Major 85 Rep 1,499 Posts Drives: 2017 M3 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Miami, FL iTrader: (1)	wouldnt that car be consider a total lost? that car will never ride the same again. anyhow GL
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08-06-2009, 04:29 PM	#6
Freedo Registered 1 Rep 4 Posts Drives: e90 coming soon! Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Kent, UK iTrader: (0)	This E90 is less than half the price of others for sale though. I could strip the whole front end in around 4 hours, then take it to a jig. I just want to know if this kind of damage will 'jig out'? The parts second hand will cost sub £1000. I can do all the spraying, etc also. Thanks for the input so far. And yes, the car is a Cat D.
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Kiemyster Bimmerpost Resident Marijuana Consultant 455 Rep 3,197 Posts Drives: 320i, 325xi, 335Xi, 335i, M3 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Queens/NYC iTrader: (4) Garage List 2010 BMW 335i [0.00] 2011 BMW X335i [0.00] 2006 BMW E90 325xi [0.00] 2011 BMW E90 335xi [4.00] 2011 BMW M3 E90 [7.00] 2006 E90 320i [0.00]	dont waste your time. really. get a used one. __________________ "AMG What! S-Line Who? If you ain't got that M I got no respect for you!" '06 Alpine Weiss E90 320i \| '06 The Green Machine E90 325xi \| '11 Alpine Weiss E90 M3 ZCP \| '10 Silverstone X5M \| '11 Alpine Weiss E90 335xi
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Borsig Captain 52 Rep 883 Posts Drives: '09 335i ///M-Sport Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: NC iTrader: (3)	no no no no no no no.
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am_ver Lieutenant 37 Rep 587 Posts Drives: Audi A6 Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: SF Bay Area (Woodside) iTrader: (2)	My e90 had similar damage and the insurance company declared it as a 'total'. __________________ 2006 A6 3.2 Quattro 2008 e93 335i, 6sp MT, Montego Blue, Saddle, Burl, ZSP, Bluetooth, iDrive, PDC, V1+CD 2007 e92 335i coupe, 6sp MT, Montego, Beige, ZPP, iDrive, PDC 2006 e90 325i, ZPP, iDrive, Arctic, Xenon
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Freedo Registered 1 Rep 4 Posts Drives: e90 coming soon! Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Kent, UK iTrader: (0)	So no one thinks it could be a good buy then? I can have the whole front stripped in a matter of hours. Having a quick glance on eBay all the buy it now prices cost £900/£1200 max including any small extras. The price is half the price of others for sale. I won't be able to afford a used one tbh, not this sort of spec any way. What I really want to know is, will the chassis jig back to normal?
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JoeyBananaz18 Brigadier General 398 Rep 4,084 Posts Drives: metrocard Join Date: May 2009 Location: Whitestone, NY iTrader: (3)	i wish i was as handy and was brave enough to undertake a mission like this. unfortunately this would really get you no where. if you want a good deal, go CPO. if it was a small dent or something, id say no problem, pick it up. an E90 M Sport in Lemans is awesome. but this damage def goes alot deeper than a dent. Dont do it. save your money. Let us know what you do. __________________ 7/18/09- I pick up my baby- 2009 E92 335i Xdrive, Space Gray over Coral Red. Premium Pkg, Cold Weather Pkg, M-Sport Pkg, 193Ms, Gloss Black grills, Custom Gloss Black Mirrors, Performance shift and E-brake boot, M3 spoiler, Euro fog switch, gloss black interior tim, Coco-Mats (red/black), H&R coilovers, 19'' Alufelgen SF-71s......
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Desi Lieutenant 16 Rep 441 Posts Drives: 2014 435i M-Sport X-Drive Join Date: May 2007 Location: Ottawa, Canada iTrader: (4)	Be REALLY careful with this car. I've had salvage title cars before that were perfectly fine, I'd never consider a BMW with one though. My car is in the shop as it was rear ended by a friend of mine who was following me home, the damage looked so minor he was going to pay for it himself out of pocket... it looked like nothing. When they got the car up on a hoist, absolute carnage. As soon as the shop told us $10k+ CAD we opted to go through insurance, the damage is fast approaching $20k... The damage appeared so minor that had I been looking for an accident car to repair, I would have pounced on it... __________________ 2014 BMW 435i XDrive M-Sport - Delivered May 2014 2007 BMW 323i - Delivered April 2007
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mike-y just another bmw douche bag 195 Rep 3,640 Posts Drives: 1.9L of fury Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Los Angeles, CA iTrader: (4)	first of all, you really can't see the extent of the damage from looking at pictures on the internet. you need to see the car in person, and get it up on a lift to check it out. Second, we are not pro body shop people here, so there is no way a bunch of guys on an internet forum are going to be able to tell you everything that is involved and exactly how much it's going to cost in the end. third, if you are asking these kinds of questions, more than likely, you aren't a pro body shop person either. I really doubt you will be able to just bolt on a bunch of new body parts and fix that car. You really need to get a professional to look at this car and inspect the chassis and subframes. Remember, there is a reason why this car is totaled and is selling for so "cheap". it may be possible, yes, but it will probably cost a lot more than you think.
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