JB3 1.4 Beta First Dyno (Comparison with JB3 1.3)

Kelvin1000 · 09-22-2009, 09:06 PM

*2008 E92 Space Gray 6MT with 30K miles on original spark plugs
*JB3 1.4 Rev8.3 Beta with Bogfix (Red Line) versus JB3 1.3 (Blue Line)
*Riss Racing Downpipes, Helix FMIC, BMS DCIs
*93 Octane, Crappy Fan, Crappy 94.50 degrees
*Map 7 (both runs)

Well guys, I went to the Dyno again today to test out the latest version. When I left my house it was raining and about 78 degrees but sadly when I got there 45 minutes later it was 94.50 at the Dyno and surprise, their main fan had broken down… all they had was a crappy garage fan that was actually in the office. They actually considered spraying the intercooler with some NOS…LOL but I told them to just do the Dyno anyways with crappy fan and all.

Now, from my road testing experience, I was expecting the Dyno to show a smoother curve and more power towards redline and at the shift (thanks to the new Bogfix). I was not disappointed!

As you will see below, the Dyno confirms exactly what I felt as the car somehow managed to pick up 36WHP and 27WTQ after 6.5K! SIMPLY AMAZING!!!

The Torque curve is super flat as well and the car feels a lot smoother and under control on the road (something the Dyno shows only marginally). It’s incredible how it just keeps getting better and better with each version. This Beta version should be ready for mass production very soon and those of you who get it will be extremely happy.

I know that with 65 degree weather and some race gas, I can break into the 400whp club.

Thanks to Terry and Team (and all the Beta Testers) for all the great work!

Please note that the Dyno guy made a mistake. The RED is 1.4 and the BLUE is 1.3:

5soko · 09-22-2009, 09:20 PM

More power up top! AWESOME.

Kelvin1000 · 09-22-2009, 09:49 PM

More power but also stronger Lagfix, smoother partial throttle operation and Bogfix as well!

Craig@SupremePower · 09-22-2009, 11:18 PM

very nice...

yowhuddupb · 09-22-2009, 11:28 PM

great numbers man!! good stuff!

canrhea · 09-22-2009, 11:36 PM

nice # on a hot miami weather with only 93 oct..... your 400whp with 100 oct !

Sniz · 09-22-2009, 11:37 PM

excellent numbers for sure.

gt3fever · 09-23-2009, 12:25 AM

Kelvin, the dyno looks good on 93. with race gas, you will be in 400whp for sure !

8.3 is a huge improvement for us 6MT. can't wait to see how the 1.4 final does

Kelvin1000 · 09-23-2009, 05:11 AM

Thanks for the kind words guys. More than peak WHP, the biggest difference is actually that it never drops after 6.5K and during the shift into the next gear. I think this will make a difference in the 1/4 for sure.

Also, the car is very smooth during normal driving and shifting as well (something the Dyno can't tell you).

Mike@N54Tuning.com · 09-23-2009, 11:13 AM

Kelvin, very strong numbers! And I love that little 30rw push towards redline. If you're at 38x on 93 octane in 90 degree weather you may break 400rw on 93 in the winter!

Mike

Jred22 · 09-23-2009, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Craig@SupremePower

very nice...

Kelvin1000 · 09-23-2009, 11:56 AM

And lets not forget that there might as well have been no fan... I should have taken a picture of it... There is one more "Surprise" that Terry won't disclose just yet coming for this version as well...

Kelvin1000 · 09-23-2009, 09:27 PM

A video of me messing around with JB3 1.4...

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canrhea · 09-23-2009, 10:15 PM

thanks for the video, Im in north FL , we should have a big FL meet , maybe even a track day.. and break 12s lol

BlackMagic · 09-23-2009, 10:23 PM

Nice, I just got the 1.4 beta too, its a big difference over stock.

Kelvin1000 · 09-24-2009, 09:40 AM

It is a hell of a map! Can't say enough about the Top End!!!

jpsimon · 09-24-2009, 09:53 AM

nice numbers indeed! but why is the graph so skewed? the hp/tq should be criss-crossing at 5252rpm

do you have the run file?

A418t81 · 09-24-2009, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by jpsimon

nice numbers indeed! but why is the graph so skewed? the hp/tq should be criss-crossing at 5252rpm

do you have the run file?

Because hp and torque scaling isn't the same.

jpsimon · 09-24-2009, 10:39 AM

ah yeah, i see that now.. but why would they want the scaling to be different?

Kelvin1000 · 09-24-2009, 05:01 PM

Don't know... The guys set it up that way and I didn't notice it...

datbimmerdoe · 09-24-2009, 07:00 PM

Sick numbers! Huge improvement.

A418t81 · 09-24-2009, 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpsimon

ah yeah, i see that now.. but why would they want the scaling to be different?

There's no good reason not to set them equal, but sometime the DJ software does goofy things.

09-22-2009, 09:06 PM	#1
Kelvin1000 Major 253 Rep 1,297 Posts Drives: 2019 BMW M2 Competition MT Hoc Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Miami, FL iTrader: (4)	JB3 1.4 Beta First Dyno (Comparison with JB3 1.3) 2008 E92 Space Gray 6MT with 30K miles on original spark plugs JB3 1.4 Rev8.3 Beta with Bogfix (Red Line) versus JB3 1.3 (Blue Line) Riss Racing Downpipes, Helix FMIC, BMS DCIs 93 Octane, Crappy Fan, Crappy 94.50 degrees *Map 7 (both runs) Well guys, I went to the Dyno again today to test out the latest version. When I left my house it was raining and about 78 degrees but sadly when I got there 45 minutes later it was 94.50 at the Dyno and surprise, their main fan had broken down… all they had was a crappy garage fan that was actually in the office. They actually considered spraying the intercooler with some NOS…LOL but I told them to just do the Dyno anyways with crappy fan and all. Now, from my road testing experience, I was expecting the Dyno to show a smoother curve and more power towards redline and at the shift (thanks to the new Bogfix). I was not disappointed! As you will see below, the Dyno confirms exactly what I felt as the car somehow managed to pick up 36WHP and 27WTQ after 6.5K! SIMPLY AMAZING!!! The Torque curve is super flat as well and the car feels a lot smoother and under control on the road (something the Dyno shows only marginally). It’s incredible how it just keeps getting better and better with each version. This Beta version should be ready for mass production very soon and those of you who get it will be extremely happy. I know that with 65 degree weather and some race gas, I can break into the 400whp club. Thanks to Terry and Team (and all the Beta Testers) for all the great work! Please note that the Dyno guy made a mistake. The RED is 1.4 and the BLUE is 1.3:
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09-22-2009, 09:20 PM	#2
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09-22-2009, 11:36 PM	#6
canrhea Lieutenant 29 Rep 556 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: GA iTrader: (0)	nice # on a hot miami weather with only 93 oct..... your 400whp with 100 oct !
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09-23-2009, 12:25 AM	#8
gt3fever Major 77 Rep 1,232 Posts Drives: 992 GT3, G87 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Socal, Taiwan iTrader: (15)	Kelvin, the dyno looks good on 93. with race gas, you will be in 400whp for sure ! 8.3 is a huge improvement for us 6MT. can't wait to see how the 1.4 final does
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09-23-2009, 05:11 AM	#9
Kelvin1000 Major 253 Rep 1,297 Posts Drives: 2019 BMW M2 Competition MT Hoc Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Miami, FL iTrader: (4)	Thanks for the kind words guys. More than peak WHP, the biggest difference is actually that it never drops after 6.5K and during the shift into the next gear. I think this will make a difference in the 1/4 for sure. Also, the car is very smooth during normal driving and shifting as well (something the Dyno can't tell you).
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Mike@N54Tuning.com Joint Chiefs of Staff 4918 Rep 115,980 Posts Drives: 2007 335i, 2015 M3 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: N54tuning.com iTrader: (89)	Kelvin, very strong numbers! And I love that little 30rw push towards redline. If you're at 38x on 93 octane in 90 degree weather you may break 400rw on 93 in the winter! Mike
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Kelvin1000 Major 253 Rep 1,297 Posts Drives: 2019 BMW M2 Competition MT Hoc Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Miami, FL iTrader: (4)	And lets not forget that there might as well have been no fan... I should have taken a picture of it... There is one more "Surprise" that Terry won't disclose just yet coming for this version as well...
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09-23-2009, 09:27 PM	#13
Kelvin1000 Major 253 Rep 1,297 Posts Drives: 2019 BMW M2 Competition MT Hoc Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Miami, FL iTrader: (4)	A video of me messing around with JB3 1.4... [u2b][YOUTUBE]<object width="560" height="340"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/GpI1YWPThoE&hl=en&fs=1&"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/GpI1YWPThoE&hl=en&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="560" height="340"></embed></object>[/YOUTUBE][/u2b]
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canrhea Lieutenant 29 Rep 556 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: GA iTrader: (0)	thanks for the video, Im in north FL , we should have a big FL meet , maybe even a track day.. and break 12s lol
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Kelvin1000 Major 253 Rep 1,297 Posts Drives: 2019 BMW M2 Competition MT Hoc Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Miami, FL iTrader: (4)	It is a hell of a map! Can't say enough about the Top End!!!
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09-24-2009, 09:53 AM	#17
jpsimon Team Zissou 3065 Rep 10,197 Posts Drives: 2022 AWD M3 Comp - SMB Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: CT iTrader: (7)	nice numbers indeed! but why is the graph so skewed? the hp/tq should be criss-crossing at 5252rpm do you have the run file?
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jpsimon Team Zissou 3065 Rep 10,197 Posts Drives: 2022 AWD M3 Comp - SMB Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: CT iTrader: (7)	ah yeah, i see that now.. but why would they want the scaling to be different?
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Kelvin1000 Major 253 Rep 1,297 Posts Drives: 2019 BMW M2 Competition MT Hoc Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Miami, FL iTrader: (4)	Don't know... The guys set it up that way and I didn't notice it...
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datbimmerdoe Lieutenant General 1277 Rep 17,493 Posts Drives: like I'M BOUT THAT LIFE Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: PARADISE aka CANES COUNTRY iTrader: (0)	Sick numbers! Huge improvement. __________________ #datbimmerdoe #thatbimmertho FOLLOW @datbimmerdoe on INSTAGRAM
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