[Jonny550]

http://www.autoblog.com/2009/02/11/o...rd-taurus-sho/

iam not sure if anyone has been keeping up with this car but it sounds pretty bad ass a twin turbo-3.5 litre V6 making 350+ hp


Now this is what the new mustang should have been hiding under the hood.

[335fourdoor]

Originally Posted by Jon335iFL

http://www.autoblog.com/2009/02/11/o...rd-taurus-sho/

iam not sure if anyone has been keeping up with this car but it sounds pretty bad ass a twin turbo-3.5 litre V6 making 350+ hp


Now this is what the new mustang should have been hiding under the hood.

the bad part is that it weighs almost 4400 pounds. unacceptable.

[Donald-335i]

thats gonna have a lot of potenial..

[aus]

This will force BMW to boost the N55 a little more... which is good.

[maswastage]

$40000? Yikes. That's a lot. If it's American muscle you're after, you could get a g8 gxp for about that much, and it'll easily outperform this car.

Or if you want some more luxurious muscle you could shell out a bit more cash and get a 335i. Either way, you'll be getting a better car.

[packinDSS]

Originally Posted by 335fourdoor

the bad part is that it weighs almost 4400 pounds. unacceptable.

+1 it is not about HP! it is about power to wieght ratio! The new SHO IS A FAT PIG! Much like the new Camero 4000lbs, Challenger 4200lbs, etc...

But a ZO6 @ 505hp and 3050lbs is one fast car.

[thatsosm]

Gotta give credit where credit is due, that car will take on alot of cars on the road.

[Jonny550]

Originally Posted by alexosma

Gotta give credit where credit is due, that car will take on alot of cars on the road.

guys i wanna see a stock 335 go @ this thing it will get walked. and if not walked at least beat and iam more than sure you can get this thing tuned in the 440-480 area

[ChadR]

Nice in concept, and I am glad to Ford building something interesting rather than the historical boring stuff. However, all that being said the initial tests of this car have been mediocre at best. Performance is far less than would be expected, steering is numb, etc. Jalopnik had a review and in the end their conclusion was the SHO really didn't offer enough advantage for most people to justify the cost difference vs. the standard engine.

[maswastage]

Originally Posted by Jon335iFL

guys i wanna see a stock 335 go @ this thing it will get walked. and if not walked at least beat and iam more than sure you can get this thing tuned in the 440-480 area

Not according to the first batch of tests on this car. If anything, the 335i is more likely to walk the SHO.

Originally Posted by Thrice

Nice in concept, and I am glad to Ford building something interesting rather than the historical boring stuff. However, all that being said the initial tests of this car have been mediocre at best. Performance is far less than would be expected, steering is numb, etc. Jalopnik had a review and in the end their conclusion was the SHO really didn't offer enough advantage for most people to justify the cost difference vs. the standard engine.

Exactly. Edmunds tested the SHO against a G37 and found that the G37 was quicker. Granted the notes mention a 7-12mph headwind but that still can't excuse the margin by which it lost to the G37. They also noted the numb steering and sub par brakes. And at $45K, their test vehicle was well into 335i territory. That's a lot of dough to put down on Ford, especially one whose performance turns out not to be all that spectacular.

[335e92tx]

http://www.caranddriver.com/var/ezfl...08449a4be7.pdf

¼-MILE: 13.7 sec @ 103 mph
TOP SPEED: 133 mph (GOV LTD)
100 mph . . . . . . . . . . 12.8
110 mph . . . . . . . . . . 15.6
120 mph . . . . . . . . . . 19.8
130 mph . . . . . . . . . .24.8

Fuel-delivery system: direct injection
Turbochargers: Honeywell GT15
Maximum boost pressure: 12.0 psi
Valve gear: chain-driven double
overhead cams, 4 valves per cylinder,
variable intake-valve timing
Power (SAE net): 365 bhp @ 5500 rpm
Torque (SAE net): 350 lb-ft @ 3500 rpm

I personally am more interested in the retrofit of the GT15 turbos to the N54

[Zeph]

don't forget they claim 350 horsepower and might put down about 300 to the wheels. BMW claims 300 horsepower and my stock 6MT dyno put down 291 RWHP. E92 335i weighs about 500 lbs less and has a little more RWTQ at almost the same RWHP. I wouldn't be too scared of this pig. Besides, I6 engines are typically much better for higher boost than V6's and always make more torque. I would be willing to be we can way out-mod them in the end... and look WAY sexier doing it

[GreenPlease]

I keep saying it: it's about weight these days. 4000+ lbs is just unacceptable.

[Ilma]

It's FUGLY

[mwahlert]

Originally Posted by GreenPlease

I keep saying it: it's about weight these days. 4000+ lbs is just unacceptable.

yeah whats with that...

new s4 weighs 4000 too!!!

[Zeph]

Originally Posted by mwahlert

yeah whats with that...

new s4 weighs 4000 too!!!

and why the supercharged V6? talk about a gay engine :P

[blisstik]

It's funny how ya'll get defensive. American cars need a sale right about now.

[inthemiddle]

Originally Posted by darklocust

It's funny how ya'll get defensive. American cars need a sale right about now.

yea.. i see the defensive tone... but still... they are right....

Problem 1 is... america really does need to sell some f(&#(&% cars right now !!!

Problem 2 is... america can't build a car worth buying !!!!

4400 lbs... seriously ? that's just ridiculous (sure it hurts performace) but it's NOT NEEDED...

our 335s at about 3800 lbs are pretty damn heavy and they are solidly built... sad part is even newer american cars i've been in... ... they don't feel solid.. cheap, plastic, yet still tanks ?!?!?

the engine, props to them on that... at least it's something new.... creative, an attempt..etc... but overall american car mfg just don't get it...

props to the Z06, but there is nothing below that in the price chain that seems to exhibit any useful technology, or hell, even useful engineering for that matter.....

i would be thrilled if americans could produce a car that was somehow on par with a 335.... i have yet to see it though.... not defensive.. just sad....

[Jonny550]

Originally Posted by darklocust

It's funny how ya'll get defensive. American cars need a sale right about now.

they sure do ................I went to the ford dealer yesterday and went in the back to find about 100-200 cars with the big letter K on them (cash for clunkers) and i offered the guy their $2000 for a 2004 ford expedition and he said no the thing has to be destroyed

[MisterSkiMask]

Originally Posted by Jon335iFL

they sure do ................I went to the ford dealer yesterday and went in the back to find about 100-200 cars with the big letter K on them (cash for clunkers) and i offered the guy their $2000 for a 2004 ford expedition and he said no the thing has to be destroyed

It does or the federal govt would bust them, removing the vehicle from the road is the idea of the program.

[mixxer]

And a tune will yield about 100 to the tire

[A418t81]

There's SO much ignorance in this thread there's almost nowhere to begin

1. The Tarus is a big car now, almost the size OF A 7 SERIES.....which has always been over two tons.

2. It traps 103 mph in the 1/4 with AWD and an auto. It's underrated.

3. The interior is arguably better than ours.