17" Don't Fit!

XeroKill · 12-02-2009, 09:48 AM

Hey guys. Just bought a 2010 335xi e92. I also got the M-Sport package with it and because it comes with performance summer tires, I wanted to put my old Hankook iPikes (17" snow tires) from my EVO on the bimmer. I bought a set of 17" rims for winter that were really inexpensive before I collected the car because I knew that the stock wheel size on a e92 is 17".

So, I collect the car and right away it looks like the brakes upfront look like the fill the entire wheel well of the 18" sport wheels. Go to try and put the 17"s on and it deffinitly won't fit. Total scrapeage. Is this normal or did the 17" wheel I bought have a smaller I.D. than other 17" wheels? Please help!

TigerDejan · 12-02-2009, 10:48 AM

were they 17x7 ? 17x7.5 ? 17x8 ? 17x8.5 ?
what offset ?

kyleb350 · 12-02-2009, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by TigerDejan

were they 17x7 ? 17x7.5 ? 17x8 ? 17x8.5 ?
what offset ?

I think he's saying they're scraping agains the rotors, which is odd. Must be some tiny 17's.

XeroKill · 12-02-2009, 11:52 AM

Sorry, I didn't explain myself well enough. They were scraping against the top-outside of the brake caliper. They were 17x7 with a +40 offset.

Darkcyd_Turbo · 12-02-2009, 11:59 AM

It's the offset of the wheel and the spoke design that is not allowing clearance of the caliper. You're either going to have to go get some spacers or the more expensive route of new wheels.

Mr. 5 · 12-02-2009, 12:06 PM

There are only a handful of 17" wheels that fit over the brakes.

remmib · 12-02-2009, 12:53 PM

OEM 17" will fit, you could look for some used ones.

Firefly6 · 12-02-2009, 04:31 PM

+1

Most aftermarket cheapies don't match the offsets.

lonestar22 · 12-02-2009, 06:25 PM

just get spacers and call it a day. you dont have to spend more money to clear brakes. my ultraleggeras wont clear the stock brakes on my girls B5 S4 but theyre decently expensive. just get your offsets right

catch · 12-02-2009, 06:38 PM

i had the same problem with my witner 17s
mine are staggered offsets on a 17x7.5 wheel, +40 and +20. The +20 wheels cleared the brakes front and back, but the +40 wheels didnt clear front nor back.
I am currently running the +20 wheel up front and the +40 wheel with a 25mm spacer (final offset of +15) out back.
No scraping issues at all now, and theyre almost flush.
Next winter I will be running the +15 on the front and a 12mm spacer with the +20 wheel out back to get them about a mm away from rubbing

Hope that helped a little

XeroKill · 12-03-2009, 07:32 AM

Hells yeah! Still doesn't make sense to me, but I have to try it out for myself to actually understand it.

Thanks for all the help guys. That's why I love this site.

XeroKill · 12-03-2009, 08:10 AM

Where did you guys buy your spacers from and whats the average you paid for them?

XeroKill · 12-03-2009, 01:02 PM

One more thing...I've been trying to find out what the stock offsets are on the e 92 335xi 17" wheels are, but i can't seem to find anything. Anyone know?

TigerDejan · 12-03-2009, 01:06 PM

i had some 5 spoke 17x7 ET40 on mine , didnt scarp or something.
but i switched anyway to 17x7.5 ET35 instead , feels better

ahaha

catch · 12-03-2009, 08:29 PM

i dont know the stock offsets, but you most likely will need a more agressive offset then the stock wheels have. Reason being is the stock wheels are made with the big brakes of the 335 in mind, these aftermarket wheels are not.
The spacing inside the wheel is most likely different. With my winter wheels I can actually see where the inside of the wheels gets big enough to clear the brakes

carve · 12-03-2009, 11:03 PM

Since the OP seems to have his response, I was wondering if you guys could help me with a similar question. Someone local to me has some cheapie "Sport Edition" brand D3 wheels with nice, new snow tires on 'em for cheap. She says they were mounted on an 08 328xi. They're 225 45R 17 tires on ET+38 offset 7" wide wheels. Sounds mighty close to what the OP was using, but they fit on another 3 series. Is there any way to tell if these wheels would fit on an 07 335i Sport Package? i.e., are the rotors way bigger?

remmib · 12-04-2009, 05:29 AM

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Originally Posted by XeroKill

One more thing...I've been trying to find out what the stock offsets are on the e 92 335xi 17" wheels are, but i can't seem to find anything. Anyone know?

OEM 17x8" wheels are ET34.

Quote:

Originally Posted by carve

Since the OP seems to have his response, I was wondering if you guys could help me with a similar question. Someone local to me has some cheapie "Sport Edition" brand D3 wheels with nice, new snow tires on 'em for cheap. She says they were mounted on an 08 328xi. They're 225 45R 17 tires on ET+38 offset 7" wide wheels. Sounds mighty close to what the OP was using, but they fit on another 3 series. Is there any way to tell if these wheels would fit on an 07 335i Sport Package? i.e., are the rotors way bigger?

Yes, the 335i brakes are much bigger than the 328i brakes. Guess you actually have to try them on to see if they fit.

carve · 12-04-2009, 08:03 AM

Now she told me these wheels also fit the 330i. Is it the bigger-engine cars that have the bigger brakes, or the sport package cars with the bigger brakes?

remmib · 12-04-2009, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by carve

Now she told me these wheels also fit the 330i. Is it the bigger-engine cars that have the bigger brakes, or the sport package cars with the bigger brakes?

It's the engine, not the sport package that decides the size of the brakes.

325i and 328i fits 16". 330i fits 17", has 330mm front brakes, and the 335i fits some 17" aftermarket wheels with it's 348mm front brakes.

Gary@TireRack · 12-04-2009, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. 5

There are only a handful of 17" wheels that fit over the brakes.

Correct.

Winter
http://www.tirerack.com/a.jsp?a=AH8&...nter/index.jsp

carve · 12-04-2009, 10:27 AM

Thanks Gary. On Tire Rack, when I click on the "D3" wheels without selecting a car first, all I get is a pic with no dimensions. When I select my car, the D3 is not one of the wheel options. Does that mean it definitely doesn't fit, or just that you haven't checked the fit on that particular combo?

Gary@TireRack · 12-07-2009, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by carve

Thanks Gary. On Tire Rack, when I click on the "D3" wheels without selecting a car first, all I get is a pic with no dimensions. When I select my car, the D3 is not one of the wheel options. Does that mean it definitely doesn't fit, or just that you haven't checked the fit on that particular combo?

It does not fit, sorry.

12-02-2009, 09:48 AM	#1
XeroKill Enlisted Member 4 Rep 39 Posts Drives: 2010 335xi Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Chicago iTrader: (0)	17" Don't Fit! Hey guys. Just bought a 2010 335xi e92. I also got the M-Sport package with it and because it comes with performance summer tires, I wanted to put my old Hankook iPikes (17" snow tires) from my EVO on the bimmer. I bought a set of 17" rims for winter that were really inexpensive before I collected the car because I knew that the stock wheel size on a e92 is 17". So, I collect the car and right away it looks like the brakes upfront look like the fill the entire wheel well of the 18" sport wheels. Go to try and put the 17"s on and it deffinitly won't fit. Total scrapeage. Is this normal or did the 17" wheel I bought have a smaller I.D. than other 17" wheels? Please help!
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TigerDejan Captain 61 Rep 919 Posts Drives: Bmw 335i Coupe Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Sweden iTrader: (2)	were they 17x7 ? 17x7.5 ? 17x8 ? 17x8.5 ? what offset ? __________________ Current:Bmw 325D E90 LCI Edition Sport \| BSM \| M-Tech \| Comfort-Pkg \| 6MT \| OEM 18" 193M \| Alcantara Seats \| ESS Tuning Custom Stage 2 \| OEM Performance Grill \| FK Street Coilovers \| CF Emblems \| Sold: Bmw 335i E92 - Fully Loaded - Stage 3+
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12-02-2009, 11:52 AM	#4
XeroKill Enlisted Member 4 Rep 39 Posts Drives: 2010 335xi Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Chicago iTrader: (0)	Sorry, I didn't explain myself well enough. They were scraping against the top-outside of the brake caliper. They were 17x7 with a +40 offset.
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Darkcyd_Turbo "Booty Hole Bandit" 32 Rep 1,597 Posts Drives: 2008 Montego E92 335xi Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Madison, WI iTrader: (14)	It's the offset of the wheel and the spoke design that is not allowing clearance of the caliper. You're either going to have to go get some spacers or the more expensive route of new wheels.
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Mr. 5 Modder Raider 756 Rep 8,633 Posts Drives: M3 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Surf City, HB iTrader: (31) Garage List 2007 e90 335i [8.00]	There are only a handful of 17" wheels that fit over the brakes. __________________ e36 M3 Coupe, e36 325i Sedan e90 335i--SOLD Best 60-130-------------9.15 Seconds------------------WWW.MR5RACING.COM
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remmib General 1569 Rep 29,202 Posts Drives: 2013 F10 520d M-Sport Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Norway iTrader: (0)	OEM 17" will fit, you could look for some used ones. __________________ F10 520d M-Sport Alpine White \| HRE P43SC 20x9+20x11 \| Michelin PSS 255/35+295/30 \| KW V3 Coilover \| M5 Front Sway Bar + M550d Rear Sway Bar \| 3DDesign Front Lip \| BMW M Performance CF Spoiler \| BMW M Performance Diffuser \| BMW M Performance Black Grills \| BMW M Performance Pedals \|
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12-02-2009, 04:31 PM	#8
Firefly6 Lieutenant 12 Rep 412 Posts Drives: 2018 330i Xdrive Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: New Jersey iTrader: (2)	+1 Most aftermarket cheapies don't match the offsets.
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12-02-2009, 06:25 PM	#9
lonestar22 Ground Clearance? 232 Rep 1,651 Posts Drives: 540i & X5 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: DFW iTrader: (-1)	just get spacers and call it a day. you dont have to spend more money to clear brakes. my ultraleggeras wont clear the stock brakes on my girls B5 S4 but theyre decently expensive. just get your offsets right __________________ E90 330i - E90 335i - E92 335i
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12-02-2009, 06:38 PM	#10
catch Major General 669 Rep 7,148 Posts Drives: F80 M3 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Thornhill iTrader: (27)	i had the same problem with my witner 17s mine are staggered offsets on a 17x7.5 wheel, +40 and +20. The +20 wheels cleared the brakes front and back, but the +40 wheels didnt clear front nor back. I am currently running the +20 wheel up front and the +40 wheel with a 25mm spacer (final offset of +15) out back. No scraping issues at all now, and theyre almost flush. Next winter I will be running the +15 on the front and a 12mm spacer with the +20 wheel out back to get them about a mm away from rubbing Hope that helped a little __________________ 2016 F80 M3 Mineral White/Sakhir Orange 2013 BMW S1000RR Flat Silver <stolen> 2007 BMW E92 335i Jet Black/Jade Grey <sold>
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12-03-2009, 07:32 AM	#11
XeroKill Enlisted Member 4 Rep 39 Posts Drives: 2010 335xi Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Chicago iTrader: (0)	Hells yeah! Still doesn't make sense to me, but I have to try it out for myself to actually understand it. Thanks for all the help guys. That's why I love this site.
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12-03-2009, 08:10 AM	#12
XeroKill Enlisted Member 4 Rep 39 Posts Drives: 2010 335xi Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Chicago iTrader: (0)	Where did you guys buy your spacers from and whats the average you paid for them?
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12-03-2009, 01:02 PM	#13
XeroKill Enlisted Member 4 Rep 39 Posts Drives: 2010 335xi Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Chicago iTrader: (0)	One more thing...I've been trying to find out what the stock offsets are on the e 92 335xi 17" wheels are, but i can't seem to find anything. Anyone know?
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12-03-2009, 01:06 PM	#14
TigerDejan Captain 61 Rep 919 Posts Drives: Bmw 335i Coupe Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Sweden iTrader: (2)	i had some 5 spoke 17x7 ET40 on mine , didnt scarp or something. but i switched anyway to 17x7.5 ET35 instead , feels better ahaha __________________ Current:Bmw 325D E90 LCI Edition Sport \| BSM \| M-Tech \| Comfort-Pkg \| 6MT \| OEM 18" 193M \| Alcantara Seats \| ESS Tuning Custom Stage 2 \| OEM Performance Grill \| FK Street Coilovers \| CF Emblems \| Sold: Bmw 335i E92 - Fully Loaded - Stage 3+
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12-03-2009, 08:29 PM	#15
catch Major General 669 Rep 7,148 Posts Drives: F80 M3 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Thornhill iTrader: (27)	i dont know the stock offsets, but you most likely will need a more agressive offset then the stock wheels have. Reason being is the stock wheels are made with the big brakes of the 335 in mind, these aftermarket wheels are not. The spacing inside the wheel is most likely different. With my winter wheels I can actually see where the inside of the wheels gets big enough to clear the brakes __________________ 2016 F80 M3 Mineral White/Sakhir Orange 2013 BMW S1000RR Flat Silver <stolen> 2007 BMW E92 335i Jet Black/Jade Grey <sold>
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12-03-2009, 11:03 PM	#16
carve Major 177 Rep 1,105 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: usa iTrader: (0)	Since the OP seems to have his response, I was wondering if you guys could help me with a similar question. Someone local to me has some cheapie "Sport Edition" brand D3 wheels with nice, new snow tires on 'em for cheap. She says they were mounted on an 08 328xi. They're 225 45R 17 tires on ET+38 offset 7" wide wheels. Sounds mighty close to what the OP was using, but they fit on another 3 series. Is there any way to tell if these wheels would fit on an 07 335i Sport Package? i.e., are the rotors way bigger?
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carve Major 177 Rep 1,105 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: usa iTrader: (0)	Now she told me these wheels also fit the 330i. Is it the bigger-engine cars that have the bigger brakes, or the sport package cars with the bigger brakes?
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12-04-2009, 10:27 AM	#21
carve Major 177 Rep 1,105 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: usa iTrader: (0)	Thanks Gary. On Tire Rack, when I click on the "D3" wheels without selecting a car first, all I get is a pic with no dimensions. When I select my car, the D3 is not one of the wheel options. Does that mean it definitely doesn't fit, or just that you haven't checked the fit on that particular combo?
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