What is the appeal of the 6-series over an e92?

ynotony · 10-22-2006, 04:26 AM

Today I was at the local dealer and saw a 6-series parked right up next to an e92. I noticed they are about the same size - close enough that it doesn't even matter. The main difference is 240lbs and a v8.... (does that ring any bells? it should)

Another difference (excluding exterior/interior style) was the interior space, which seemed to be much greater in the e92.

I don't want to believe that the 6-series is its own car just so owners don't have to say they drive a 3-series. Is it just model differentiation BMW is hoping for? Did bmw just make a more luxurious 3-series and double the price?

Honestly, if you put a v8 in the e92 you'd have a 6-series at its core. No wait, I take that back. You put a v8 in the e92 and you have an all around BETTER car than a 6-series. If there was a 350i I think no one would buy the 650i at all. Even if it was the same money. The absurdity of the 6-series would really come across. And what doesn't make sense is that in a year you WILL be able to buy an e92 with a v8 for less money than bmw's other v8 coupe. It will have more power too!

And if the 6-series is a 3-series but more "luxurious" and with a gentler ride, then the whole idea of an m6 is oxymoronic to me...

The way I see it, BMW makes a Coupe. After that it gets a little gray.

your thoughts?

335d coupe · 10-22-2006, 04:28 AM

"What is the appeal of the 6-series over an e92?"

NONE WHATSOEVER!!!!

Mike

ZuerstBMW · 10-22-2006, 04:29 AM

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Originally Posted by ynotony

Did bmw just make a more luxurious 3-series and double the price?

your thoughts?

3 + 3 is 6 afterall.

Mr.Marvelous · 10-22-2006, 04:49 AM

No no, I totally disagree...

6 series is a much more stylish car than the 3.

Kev · 10-22-2006, 06:28 AM

not with that camel hump on the trunk and the look of a widened and lengthened Porsche 911 Carrera

LEDZEP · 10-22-2006, 06:32 AM

same difference as a Victoria's Secret supermodel vs. ordinary girlfriend.

THE JEDI · 10-22-2006, 07:34 AM

man the e92 is nice....but no way it's even close to a 6 series....those are thoughts of a crazy person.....hahahahahaha

meruyailir · 10-22-2006, 07:40 AM

The 6 is much longer than the 3. It is much sexier, more aggressive looking, and more sporty. Inside it's not more luxurious than the 3 though. The way I see it, 3, 5, and 6 are similar/same in interior luxury. The 7 interior that has a class of its own.

nmulax · 10-22-2006, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by LEDZEP

same difference as a Victoria's Secret supermodel vs. ordinary girlfriend.

haha perfect analogy

tonee8519 · 10-22-2006, 09:16 AM

6 series makes a rich man feel better.

Zeroday · 10-22-2006, 09:27 AM

the only argument i hear for the 6 being better than the 3 is exterior looks...you guys would really pay 30k more for styling alone?

i think the problem is the 335 wasnt concieved when the 6 was designed. now it doesn't seem to fit. when the m3 comes out i would guess that 6 sales are going to go down the shitter.

btw i like the styling of the 6 much better than that of my 3. not 30k better though...

dmontic71 · 10-22-2006, 09:35 AM

Stop the madness! I understand that styling is subjective, but the whole price agrument doesen't hold. Dollars per HP, dollars per square foot of interior.. Don't ever forget that part of what BMW is selling is prestige... The price argument sounds very reminiscent of what you hear on Lexus or Acura forums...

Ninjaneer · 10-22-2006, 10:23 AM

I got to test drive a 6 series and I wasn't impressed. Yea maybe it has a better engine, but I honestly (personally) didn't feel like it was much faster than the 330i I had test drove a few days before it... yea call me crazy but I didn't feel a difference.

I HATED the interior space. When I sat in the passenger side, I could literally touch the dash w/o reaching for it and my arm was still bent (not extended). My seat was backed up too, and family in the back seat said they were ok for legroom but it was still stuffy (I sat in the back too).

Exterior looks nice, but inside is just too cramped for me. I like the styling, the back looks fresh and different, but I found myself asking " who in their right mind would spend so much on this car when they could almost jump into a 7-series?" And if you can jump into a 7-series, then you could probably jump into an M5. I'd take either over a 6-series.

Zeroday · 10-22-2006, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by dmontic71

Stop the madness! I understand that styling is subjective, but the whole price agrument doesen't hold. Dollars per HP, dollars per square foot of interior.. Don't ever forget that part of what BMW is selling is prestige... The price argument sounds very reminiscent of what you hear on Lexus or Acura forums...

so by that logic you're paying for the little numbers on the back of the car then..smart

this is a perfectly valid discussion. your comment didn't change that fact.

Nikki · 10-22-2006, 10:34 AM

I'm not a 6 series fan, it looks like a big ugly piece. lol

krazykanuck · 10-22-2006, 10:50 AM

6 is a more expensive car, not an entry level car like the 3. Carries more pretige for the people that desire it.

Its like asking the difference between an SL and SLK mercedes. Different livels and price points.

ward · 10-22-2006, 10:53 AM

people will know you spent more money on a 6, but I will know the person with the 6 could have had a 911....... (so he's a dope)

findtom · 10-22-2006, 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LEDZEP

same difference as a Victoria's Secret supermodel vs. ordinary girlfriend.

ksfrogman · 10-22-2006, 10:59 AM

That's interesting. I was just looking at the dimensions of the 6 vs the 3.

6-series
Length 190.2
Width 73.0
Height 54.1
Wheelbase 109.4
Weight 3814 lbs

E92 335i
Length 180.3
Width 70.2
Height 54.2
Wheelbase 108.7
Weight 3571 (6MT)

It's a little longer and wider, but closer to the ground. This gives it a squashed look, and perhaps the illusion that it's (the 6) much bigger than it actually is.

Drop a clay model of the 3-series onto the ground from a two-story building and you might end up with a 6-series?

Zeroday · 10-22-2006, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by krazykanuck

6 is a more expensive car, not an entry level car like the 3. Carries more pretige for the people that desire it.

Its like asking the difference between an SL and SLK mercedes. Different livels and price points.

so if BMW charges 70k for the 335i it would be a more impressive car?

findtom · 10-22-2006, 11:05 AM

I'm not really a big fan of the 6-series either, the price would make it pretty easy to choose the E92.

Juggs · 10-22-2006, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by LEDZEP

same difference as a Victoria's Secret supermodel vs. ordinary girlfriend.

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ynotony Private First Class 63 Rep 185 Posts Drives: Carrera S Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Los Angeles iTrader: (0)	What is the appeal of the 6-series over an e92? Today I was at the local dealer and saw a 6-series parked right up next to an e92. I noticed they are about the same size - close enough that it doesn't even matter. The main difference is 240lbs and a v8.... (does that ring any bells? it should) Another difference (excluding exterior/interior style) was the interior space, which seemed to be much greater in the e92. I don't want to believe that the 6-series is its own car just so owners don't have to say they drive a 3-series. Is it just model differentiation BMW is hoping for? Did bmw just make a more luxurious 3-series and double the price? Honestly, if you put a v8 in the e92 you'd have a 6-series at its core. No wait, I take that back. You put a v8 in the e92 and you have an all around BETTER car than a 6-series. If there was a 350i I think no one would buy the 650i at all. Even if it was the same money. The absurdity of the 6-series would really come across. And what doesn't make sense is that in a year you WILL be able to buy an e92 with a v8 for less money than bmw's other v8 coupe. It will have more power too! And if the 6-series is a 3-series but more "luxurious" and with a gentler ride, then the whole idea of an m6 is oxymoronic to me... The way I see it, BMW makes a Coupe. After that it gets a little gray. your thoughts?
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THE JEDI Major 123 Rep 1,461 Posts Drives: 2005 Z4 2.5i Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: JAPAN, Okinawa iTrader: (0)	man the e92 is nice....but no way it's even close to a 6 series....those are thoughts of a crazy person.....hahahahahaha
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meruyailir Lieutenant 40 Rep 470 Posts Drives: E90 325, E70 X5 3.0 Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Indonesia iTrader: (0)	The 6 is much longer than the 3. It is much sexier, more aggressive looking, and more sporty. Inside it's not more luxurious than the 3 though. The way I see it, 3, 5, and 6 are similar/same in interior luxury. The 7 interior that has a class of its own.
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Zeroday Colonel 46 Rep 2,350 Posts Drives: Plymouth Volare Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: your nerves iTrader: (0)	the only argument i hear for the 6 being better than the 3 is exterior looks...you guys would really pay 30k more for styling alone? i think the problem is the 335 wasnt concieved when the 6 was designed. now it doesn't seem to fit. when the m3 comes out i would guess that 6 sales are going to go down the shitter. btw i like the styling of the 6 much better than that of my 3. not 30k better though...
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