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      08-17-2005, 04:49 PM   #1
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E90 vs. S2K (Honda S2000)

Just a question....maybe someone out there has an S2k and could clear this up. My brother owns a Honda S2000....and yes, its a nice little sports car, and is fast.....but we joke around back and forth saying whos car is faster....I can truthfully say Im 90% sure his S2K could beat my 2006 325 with SP.....but could it out do the 330 with SP? Just wondering what people think (that actually know what an S2K is and CAN do...)
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      08-17-2005, 04:51 PM   #2
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If he knows how to drive, he would probably beat a 330
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Just a question....maybe someone out there has an S2k and could clear this up. My brother owns a Honda S2000....and yes, its a nice little sports car, and is fast.....but we joke around back and forth saying whos car is faster....I can truthfully say Im 90% sure his S2K could beat my 2006 325 with SP.....but could it out do the 330 with SP? Just wondering what people think (that actually know what an S2K is and CAN do...)
Yup, the S2000 can run circles around any E90 (so far).

I have been looking at them recently as they are leasing them for $299/ month!!!

They are great little cars and the next best roadsters that compete with them are in the $50k range.

I am still leaning towards an E90 myself, as I think the S2000 would be too demanding as a daily driver.

It would, however, make a great 2nd car.

BTW the latest S2000 (the 2.2 liter) is s'posed to do 0-60 in ~5.5 sec.
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I agrea with noflash, it will run ring around an E90 both in a straight line and especially on a track
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jwocky can probably answer this question the best since he owned one, but I think the 330 vs s2000 would be a toss up... its hard to call. S2000 is fast son-of-a when you have it at the right spot in the rev-band tho. Id lean on saying its a draw with the 6cylinder getting the edge at speeds above 100... J ?
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Yup, the S2000 can run circles around any E90 (so far).

I have been looking at them recently as they are leasing them for $299/ month!!!

They are great little cars and the next best roadsters that compete with them are in the $50k range.

I am still leaning towards an E90 myself, as I think the S2000 would be too demanding as a daily driver.

It would, however, make a great 2nd car.

BTW the latest S2000 (the 2.2 liter) is s'posed to do 0-60 in ~5.5 sec.


I think im gonna have to disagree with u... there is a video of a stock G35 coupe vs. a S2000 tuned with exhaust and intake and its pretty much even, but then the S2000 has like 1 car length on the G35... i think that a stock S2000 will be even if not a bit behind a 330 SP with manual... plus, i feel the S2000 is built for 0-60 and that on a highway run the BMW would be ahead...
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      08-17-2005, 05:49 PM   #7
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0-60 isn't everything folks.
You got that right! Which one would you want to be in if there was an accident? I guess I am one of the few on this forum that see increased weight as a positive thing.
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      08-17-2005, 05:56 PM   #8
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Because virtually all of us e90 owners spend just about all of our time in our e90s travelling on public roads, lets add in the creature comfort comparisons into the equation and see what comes out the other end.
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the S2000 can be quite a dog if caught at the wrong end of the RPM range

take a look at the magazines top gear 50-70 or whatever speed range they use

it's fast, but has very little power down low
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Just a question....maybe someone out there has an S2k and could clear this up. My brother owns a Honda S2000....and yes, its a nice little sports car, and is fast.....but we joke around back and forth saying whos car is faster....I can truthfully say Im 90% sure his S2K could beat my 2006 325 with SP.....but could it out do the 330 with SP? Just wondering what people think (that actually know what an S2K is and CAN do...)
I sold a 2002 S2000 to buy my new 330i. Let me tell you, these are both amazing cars. I loved, really really really loved my S2000.

I picked up my 330i in Munich and broke it in on the Autobahn. I really really really love my 330i.

These cars are like kids in a family. Totally different and both wonderful.

The S2000 is a pure no-compromise sports car, a demonstration of Honda's F1 experience. The pre-2003 models with the original F20C engine are especially impressive. They are the pinnacle of light-weight, high-tech Japanese sports cars. But it's not a good daily driver

The 330i is fundamentally a compromise when viewed against the S2000. The 330i is designed to deliver superior driving manners and excellent overall usability.

I didn't drive the S2000 every day; the 330i will be a daily driver. You gotta match the need to car.
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people people its not the car that makes the driver its the driver that makes the car.
with this said sure you can have the fastest car in the world but if you dont know how to use it then its useless. iam not saying that a pinto being driven by the stig(i think thats how to spell it) can beat the lotis elis being driven by my grandma.
so if the driver of the s2k knows how to drive and an equly skilled driver in the e90 then that would be a good race.
they should put that in top gear and name s2k vs. e90!!! but then i guess thell have to have 2 stigs
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yet again these are two different kind of cars i mean you compare a three series with a nissan 350z then with an honda s2000 the next comparison well get will be the three series against a ferrari enzo i mean come on lets compare cars that are in the same class and like for like in other brand names
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A 330i 6sp manual is DEFINITELY faster in a straight line than the S2000(tested it agains a friend of mine) , in a corner it's a different story, but he didn't want to go around some bends so it was 2-0 for me
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      08-18-2005, 06:36 AM   #15
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Robin Hood, I believe the S2K will beat the 330 off the mark....but the S2K is not going to keep up its power in the higher Mph range....the 330 I think will take it in the end, but the S2K just has the ability to jump off the start better.....but then again, I've seen remote control cars bigger than the S...hah
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yet again these are two different kind of cars i mean you compare a three series with a nissan 350z then with an honda s2000 the next comparison well get will be the three series against a ferrari enzo i mean come on lets compare cars that are in the same class and like for like in other brand names

Speaking of crazy comparisons..The one comparison I see time and time again is the G35 coupe vs the 3 series coupe. Unlike the 3-series, the G35 coupe has more in common with the 350Z than the G35 sedan.
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Robin Hood, I believe the S2K will beat the 330 off the mark....but the S2K is not going to keep up its power in the higher Mph range....the 330 I think will take it in the end, but the S2K just has the ability to jump off the start better.....but then again, I've seen remote control cars bigger than the S...hah
Well, 0-100kmh(62mph) times:
S2000: 6.2s
330i E90; 6.1s
0-100mph:
S2000:15.4s
330i:14.9s

IRL: Ciao S2000
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Im sorry, but those numbers are incorrect RobinHood....the S2K does 0-60 in 5.5mph...its a fact....not exactly sure where you've gotten your numbers from, but check any reliable report on the car and itll show you. My brother can get 0-60 in 5.8s, but he's just an amateur......so as much as I love my E90...the S2K will likely beat it from the start, but the E90 will eventually win that race
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Im sorry, but those numbers are incorrect RobinHood....the S2K does 0-60 in 5.5mph...its a fact....not exactly sure where you've gotten your numbers from, but check any reliable report on the car and itll show you. My brother can get 0-60 in 5.8s, but he's just an amateur......so as much as I love my E90...the S2K will likely beat it from the start, but the E90 will eventually win that race
I live in Europe my friend. I ve got them from a GERMAN car mag

And they are always right U know that

0-60 isn't exactly 62mph(100kmh)

So I understand your American point of view, but these are the EXACT figures again

0-62(100kmh): 6.1 vs 6.2
0-100(160.9kmh): 14.9 vs 15.4

Sorry but these are for real
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Different cars, different conditions, different car-testers.
Bear in mind: The S2000 doesn't have any low end grunt.
Yesterday a 200BHP Golf GTI (turbo 2.0 litre) (0-62 in 6.7) almost ate me for breakfast from 20-60 mph: Torquey engine!
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      08-18-2005, 10:13 AM   #21
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^^^ LOL its like that VW commercial where the sales guy tells the lady about all the low end torque, and he is like try it out and she flys by a cop!
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I'm not here to start a flame war, but I drove the hell out of the 330i when I went with my brother to the BMW E90 unveiling. They had a autocross track set up so you could feel how the car handle and drives.

I was VERY impressed with the E90 as far as performance goes. Though, not a fan of the new look, I tore the autocross track up in it. I drove it harder than I have ever driven my S2000. Anyways, I just wanted to say that I agree with pretty much everything you guys say here.

I do however feel that the S2K would pull harder on a 0-60 (62) and I certainly think it would move around the track much faster than the E90. But in all honestly, we are comparing Apples and Oranges and my brother and I just nag at each other in good fun. I really enjoyed driving the 330 that day but I would never give up my S2000. It puts a smile on my face everyday and thats all that matters. Right?!
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