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      08-19-2005, 02:29 PM   #1
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Talking Best price you've gotten...

This is the configuration...

Model: 330i
Transmission: Automatic
Ext: Alpine White
Int: Black Dakota Leather w/ Alum trim
Pkg: Premium + Sport
Options: Nav + PDC + Rear fold down seats + comfort access
Accessories: Ipod adapter + spoiler

So it's pretty close to fully loaded except no cold weather pkg and the likes of active steering. The best quote I have received so far is $900 over invoice. Wonder if any of you folks found anything better out there.

On the other hand, due to the need of PDC (sorry, don't yell at me, it's my girlfriend's car), it is most likely that it will need to be ordered. Is the deposit refundable in case she changes her mind while the car is being built? I asked the dealer, and he seems very vague about this.

FYI, I'm in Norcal, if that matters at all. Thanks everyone!!
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      08-19-2005, 02:35 PM   #2
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$900 over invoice....better sign now before i do!
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      08-19-2005, 02:37 PM   #3
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sounds like a pretty good deal.
i noticed that nor. cal dealers tend to give pretty good deals..better than so. cal
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      08-19-2005, 02:53 PM   #4
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I will try a few more dealers and let you guys know...

To be frank, all the negotiations I have done are either over the phone or email. Dealers would usually love your visit, then use all kinds of pressure possible to get you into bad deals. Thus, I am quite surprised that I am already hearing "$??? over invoice" kind of price from a few phone calls.

Of course, there are still crazy dealers over here that simply don't want to take a penny off while you told them you have close to invoice price quotes from other dealers.

There are only 2-3 more dealers I would like to try, and that should be enough. I wonder if the arrival of the Lexus IS350 has anything to do with the dealers' aggressive pricing on the 330i. (Ok, I'll put my flamesuit on) Or just a total supply/demand question, as I see 9 out of 10 e90 in norcal are 325i. Not enough customers interested in 330i?
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      08-19-2005, 02:54 PM   #5
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In the Dealer Review section there are a bunch of deal breakdowns from various dealerships in each region/city. Here in Los Angeles I paid $500 over invoice for my 325i with SG/Black Leather, Auto, all 3 packages, Xenons and Nav - Pacific BMW in Glendale.

Take a look through the dealer section if you get a chance, there are a few folks from the Bay area who've posted their details.

Good luck!
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      08-19-2005, 02:55 PM   #6
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Thanks a lot!!

Sorry, total newbie to this forum...didn't even have the time to explore. I'll definitely go there and check it out.
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      08-19-2005, 02:57 PM   #7
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wow 500 over invoice from pacific bmw? i am dealing with them now i am getting 1400 above invoice including floormats so i feel like i am getting ripped off. how much negotiation did u need before getting 500 above invoice?
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      08-19-2005, 03:03 PM   #8
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None. I called John Jack, who used to be fleet sales at Nick Alexander, and has sold a ton of cars to family and friends. His son Chris works with him and quoted me $500 over on the first shot. Maybe it was a loyalty thing, I'm not sure. I am very happy with the deal though.
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      08-19-2005, 03:21 PM   #9
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wow u certainly got a deal then. all the dealers i've talked to have all quoted me somewhere between 1200-1700 above invoice. i'm guessing it might have to do with the options too seeing that i'm only getting a 330 with 2 options. i guess i shouldn't think about it too much. there's always gonna be someone who got a better deal.
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      08-19-2005, 03:34 PM   #10
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Exactly, Bill. I was so worried about not getting screwed on my last car that it messed up the whole buying experience. Pacific is a great dealership, its my second car from there, and in the end you didnt get gouged and you'll be driving and amazing new BMW. Life is great!
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      08-19-2005, 03:58 PM   #11
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Beckham23,

I am currently trying to contact dealers outside of my state (only one dealer in the state, not budging of MSRP). Never tried to negotiate a car purchase over the phone/email, just wondering what worked best for you

Have you found that emails or calls are more beneficial? And when contacting dealers are you asking them for a specific price or are they quoting you those prices.

Did you catch Mr. Beckham @ the Home Depot Center last month?

Thanks.
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      08-19-2005, 05:34 PM   #12
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Yesterday

Went to a dealer yesterday, didn't even ask about pricing and he said there's lots available and at a good price. Is it the car or economy or both.
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      08-19-2005, 06:49 PM   #13
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Talking Pei Mei...

Hey,

I didn't call any dealer initially. I just shopped through edmunds to learn the invoice price, and checked a few local dealers for price quote. They either call or email me in a few days. At the beginning, before I'm even aware of this site, I didn't expect to hear any "$???? over invoice" prices, thus, I didn't even tell them how much I am expecting to pay. Once I received the $1200 over invoice price from one particular dealer, I started using that as a guideline to shop around. I started becoming very straightforward and being frank that I am a serious shopper. If you can give me a deal, you have my business. If not, bye. That really saves the time from locking in a dealership for 5 hours over $200, you know what I mean.

I bought my e46 M3 from this other dealer, and went there for test driving. And guess what, didn't even bother to take a penny off as they said the e90s just came out and can't do anything about the price. What I am saying is that my experience is been better through email/call than being physically present at a dealership, but that's just me.

AND YES, I was at the homedepot center. But Beckham's performance in that game was rather disappointing. Fortunately, Zidane was crazily great as always, and the chance to see Figo one last time in a Real shirt is nice. :rocks:

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Beckham23,

I am currently trying to contact dealers outside of my state (only one dealer in the state, not budging of MSRP). Never tried to negotiate a car purchase over the phone/email, just wondering what worked best for you

Have you found that emails or calls are more beneficial? And when contacting dealers are you asking them for a specific price or are they quoting you those prices.

Did you catch Mr. Beckham @ the Home Depot Center last month?

Thanks.
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      08-19-2005, 11:05 PM   #14
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This is the configuration...

The best quote I have received so far is $900 over invoice. Wonder if any of you folks found anything better out there.

On the other hand, due to the need of PDC (sorry, don't yell at me, it's my girlfriend's car), it is most likely that it will need to be ordered. Is the deposit refundable in case she changes her mind while the car is being built? I asked the dealer, and he seems very vague about this.

FYI, I'm in Norcal, if that matters at all. Thanks everyone!!
$900 is pretty good deal ; although, I just read some guy is claiming he's getting a $300 over invoice offer. The lowest that I've seen is $500 over in N. CA.

As to the deposit, Cali law, the deposit is fully refundable if you cancel the order.

Good luck with the deal.
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Why would she change her mind? ...just curious
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      08-20-2005, 10:00 AM   #16
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I paid invoice. Oh wait, that's right I work for a dealer!
Sorry guys, not being a jerk, but that's what I paid
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I paid invoice. Oh wait, that's right I work for a dealer!
Sorry guys, not being a jerk, but that's what I paid
Talk to JIMD1709! hahahaha!
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Cute... Actually I have been working with the same dealer since 1995. I've been on the BMW side of the house since '99. I love it. I've learned a lot about these vehicles just from being around them so long.
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IS350...?

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Why would she change her mind? ...just curious
Well, the Lexus IS350 is coming out sometime next month and she would like to see it as well. She said just from pics, she favors the bimmer. Lexus hasn't released the pricing yet, nor we can do any test drive now to true comparison. As far as price goes, I'd expect a fully loaded IS350 MSRP is about the price of a fully loaded 330i invoice. That's only my guess. If that's the case, I'd urge her to get the bimmer.

Anyway, even if she puts in an order now, the car won't get here until 2-3 months later.
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I paid invoice. Oh wait, that's right I work for a dealer!
Sorry guys, not being a jerk, but that's what I paid
Not being a jerk here also, but I'm surprised that invoice is what you paid for working at the same dealership for such a long period of time. We have already heard guys paying $300 over the lowest over here. Anyway, I wish I can pay invoice and I'll be satisfied. Even though I know there is more room even under invoice, especially when BMW gives out incentives to dealers to encourage deals.
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Well, the Lexus IS350 is coming out sometime next month and she would like to see it as well. She said just from pics, she favors the bimmer. Lexus hasn't released the pricing yet, nor we can do any test drive now to true comparison. As far as price goes, I'd expect a fully loaded IS350 MSRP is about the price of a fully loaded 330i invoice. That's only my guess. If that's the case, I'd urge her to get the bimmer.

Anyway, even if she puts in an order now, the car won't get here until 2-3 months later.
On one of the auto magazines that I received monthly...I remembered reading an article on the IS350.....the model that they tested was priced around $42,000 plus.......and it was pretty much loaded with lots of options.
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Not being a jerk here also, but I'm surprised that invoice is what you paid for working at the same dealership for such a long period of time. We have already heard guys paying $300 over the lowest over here. Anyway, I wish I can pay invoice and I'll be satisfied. Even though I know there is more room even under invoice, especially when BMW gives out incentives to dealers to encourage deals.
Especially if he works for the only dealer in Va. Beach. I would drive 500 miles and pay MSRP before i would buy from those guys. And apparently quite a few people i have talked to feel the same way. There are a few who have good things to say, most negs. I doubt he paid actual invoice but whateva more power to him if he did
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