[PBureno]

What do you guys SPECULATE/THINK about the next generation of 3-series which are F30/F32. Will it be better then the E90/E92's or even better then the E46's? Will BMW move further away from their sporty and driving feel? Will it look worse or better now that Chris Bangle is gone? ETC ETC

Will the E90/E92's be better then the F30/F32 or shall technology and BMW come through?

Give us your two cents

[mach330]

i have no doubt that it will . this is bmw's bread and butter. the 3 series have been a great car for many yrs. i'm just hoping it stops getting bigger.

[CarForHire]

I accidently said no, but I think so. The 335is coming out leads me to think they're still mainly focussing on performance.

[Jason]

Originally Posted by CarForHire

I accidently said no, but I think so. The 335is coming out leads me to think they're still mainly focussing on performance.

Changed your vote to Yes.

[The_AMG_Hunter]

Is there gonna be a F30post.com? Lol

[CarForHire]

Originally Posted by Jason

Changed your vote to Yes.

Thanks man.

[PBureno]

No one comes to the F30 sub-section of this forum

Should've left it at "General E90"

[ZJP]

Technologically speaking, yes it will be better than the current E9X. However, I don't think it will be as sporty as the current E9X and previous generations. I'm not really a fan of any new cars that are coming out in the near future to be honest.

[HoustonScott]

Haven't seen or hear any hype....

HS

[Technic]

Originally Posted by L0U

I think bmw will come up short due to their recent economic woes. In order to deliver the performance, cost cutting measures will have to implemented in other areas. The stripper model will be sparser than ever.

x2.14

If we are getting an almost $51,000 335is without leather seats and just a 6-speaker stereo then what's coming as a base F30/32 model would be disgraceful standard equipment-wise.

BMW is already ridiculous in their penny-pinching, decontenting moves while their MSRP are actually disproportionately increasing with the cost-cutting.

[tuned2ride]

What a shock when the E90 was introduced; I couldn't have said then, but now I know that E90 > E46.

I worry about the 4-cyl. in base model over here. Whatever one says, I *hate* 4-cyl. in this class of cars.

[Ramos]

I voted NO and here is why:

1. The good Interior will be a major step forward with a look and feel similar to the F10 5 series
2. The bad .. Engines The N55 is no better than the N54 and more restrictive as far as any tuning goes
3. More bad .. The car will be bigger again and probably weight the same if not more
4. Even worse .. BMW will continue to not offer LSD's on non M cars while the competition namely the S4 does, thus allowing Audi to catch up and yes even overtake BMW as the better handling car

My next car will hopefully be an M1...

[SCA]

Two facts, the next 3-Series will be larger and heavier.

[JulieDriving]

Originally Posted by SCA

Two facts, the next 3-Series will be larger and heavier.

I was afraid of that.

[F32Fleet]

Originally Posted by Ramos

I voted NO and here is why:

1. The good Interior will be a major step forward with a look and feel similar to the F10 5 series
2. The bad .. Engines The N55 is no better than the N54 and more restrictive as far as any tuning goes
3. More bad .. The car will be bigger again and probably weight the same if not more
4. Even worse .. BMW will continue to not offer LSD's on non M cars while the competition namely the S4 does, thus allowing Audi to catch up and yes even overtake BMW as the better handling car

My next car will hopefully be an M1...

unless your a track junkie LSD is overrated IMO.

[02themax]

Originally Posted by Socom

unless your a track junkie LSD is overrated IMO.

Says the guy who doesn't drive in winter weather. My G35 out performed my 335i hands down in any winter weather.

[PhilH]

Originally Posted by Ramos

I voted NO and here is why:

1. The good Interior will be a major step forward with a look and feel similar to the F10 5 series
2. The bad .. Engines The N55 is no better than the N54 and more restrictive as far as any tuning goes
3. More bad .. The car will be bigger again and probably weight the same if not more
4. Even worse .. BMW will continue to not offer LSD's on non M cars while the competition namely the S4 does, thus allowing Audi to catch up and yes even overtake BMW as the better handling car

My next car will hopefully be an M1...

I agree with your reasons #2 and #3. The N55 is out already, and almost certainly will be the engine in the new F30. Also, from all accounts, the F30 will be quite a bit bigger, and presumably heavier. Therefore, the F30 should be a few ticks slower than the E90 and a bit less sporty.

After thinking about waiting for the F30, I instead just placed an order for an Audi S4 after doing a couple test drives. While I'm posting on the subject, I might as well mention that the spare tire in the S4, and the oil dipstick tube helped to cement my decision.

Having said all that, I'm not sure the F30 can be expected to be much more high performance than the E90. The E90 335i was a rocket versus the competition when it was introduced. With the volatile price of gasoline, government MPG regulations, and the sluggish economy, car companies in general can't be expected to crank up the performance of their cars much these days. In order to get a better performing car, you pretty much need to pony up the $$$ and get an ///M car.

[Schm]

I voted no for various reasons. It will most likely more expensive, heaver and more complex. I think the interior will be an improvement, but looking at the spy shots and the 5 and 7, I think we'll end up with a mini-5er, and that's something that I just don't want.

I don't think that BMW will abandon all of the sporty driving character of the 3-series (as this formula has won award after award), but I fear that as we have seen from the e30 to e36, e46 and e90; each generation has gotten larger and more complex, more efficient and forced to meet more environmental and safety regulations, and thus I expect to make the f30 not as good (but not necessarily bad) as the e90.

[CarForHire]

Originally Posted by Schm

I voted no for various reasons. It will most likely more expensive, heaver and more complex. I think the interior will be an improvement, but looking at the spy shots and the 5 and 7, I think we'll end up with a mini-5er, and that's something that I just don't want.

I don't think that BMW will abandon all of the sporty driving character of the 3-series (as this formula has won award after award), but I fear that as we have seen from the e30 to e36, e46 and e90; each generation has gotten larger and more complex, more efficient and forced to meet more environmental and safety regulations, and thus I expect to make the f30 not as good (but not necessarily bad) as the e90.

There might be a large shift from here, to 1ADDICTS.

[kgb1637]

I'm pretty sure this has been said from year to year, I'm sure in 2004 during speculation of the E90 people said it'll be larger, heavier, not as nimble but yet, the car is still selling and looking great nearly 6 years later.

[CarForHire]

Originally Posted by kgb1637

I'm pretty sure this has been said from year to year, I'm sure in 2004 during speculation of the E90 people said it'll be larger, heavier, not as nimble but yet, the car is still selling and looking great nearly 6 years later.

Good point, we'll only know once we get some more specs.

[Alexander]

Originally Posted by CarForHire

There might be a large shift from here, to 1ADDICTS.

I think that BMW is going to replace the sporty E90 with the next gen 1 series and the new F30 will be more like the 5 series. I just don't get what the justification is! I hate the F10 and E60 5 series, they are both too big. I'm all about the E39 M5, it is by far my favorite car, and I think its the best car that BMW has made.

If they make the 3 series any larger than I'm going to switch to Audi.... The new RS4 and RS6 is just ridiculously awesome, while the new M5 is just blah and big...