CPO with non-OEM wheels?

wootang_clan · 02-16-2010, 07:51 PM

Does anyone know if a car could be CPO even with non OEM rims? I'm looking at a 330i that has a non OEM rims and it's CPO. One of the members on this site mentioned that, that might not be legal... Just want to check. If not, at least I have something to bargain with during negotiations.

MassBimmer · 02-16-2010, 07:55 PM

CPO applies to all mechanical pieces of the vehicle. That's why BMW makes you pay extra if you want a warranty on your wheels/tires.

Bora20 · 02-16-2010, 08:00 PM

In Canada, the wheels AND tires must be on the BMW approved list for the car to be CPO. The tread must also be above a certain limit.

I doubt it could be CPO with non-OEM wheels.

jblackwell · 02-16-2010, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by wootang_clan

Does anyone know if a car could be CPO even with non OEM rims? I'm looking at a 330i that has a non OEM rims and it's CPO. One of the members on this site mentioned that, that might not be legal... Just want to check. If not, at least I have something to bargain with during negotiations.

It can NOT be a BMW CPO car with aftermarket wheels and tires installed. It might be a "certified pre-owned" vehicle on a dealer specific program, but not covered by BMWNA with aftermarket wheels.

Bora20 · 02-16-2010, 08:04 PM

Check out the inspection report requirements in Section 2.

It states "all mismatched and/or non-approved safety related components with the Original Equipment Manufacturer (OEM) BMW parts must be replaced to meet CPO requirements."

http://www.bmwusa.com/Standard/Conte...ification.aspx

Toddbmw · 02-16-2010, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by wootang_clan

Does anyone know if a car could be CPO even with non OEM rims? I'm looking at a 330i that has a non OEM rims and it's CPO. One of the members on this site mentioned that, that might not be legal... Just want to check. If not, at least I have something to bargain with during negotiations.

Has the car already been sold at some point in the past as a CPO car, and that second owner put non OEM rims on the car before it was sold/traded? It is my understanding that a car can be CPO'ed once, and that the CPO warrenty is transferable for the life of the warrenty.

wootang_clan · 02-16-2010, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by jblackwell

It can NOT be a BMW CPO car with aftermarket wheels and tires installed. It might be a "certified pre-owned" vehicle on a dealer specific program, but not covered by BMWNA with aftermarket wheels.

I don't understand the difference between the two... BMW CPO vs "CPO" vehicle on a dealer specific program? Do you mean that it's certified just for their dealership? It states right on their site that it's a CPO. I better talk to them about it. I'll use it to get the price down. I personally don't mind that they replaced the tires with non-RTF but would like the OEM rims.

wootang_clan · 02-16-2010, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Toddbmw

Has the car already been sold at some point in the past as a CPO car, and that second owner put non OEM rims on the car before it was sold/traded? It is my understanding that a car can be CPO'ed once, and that the CPO warrenty is transferable for the life of the warrenty.

The carfax says one owner. I think the first owner must have done it. And I asked if it was CPO and they said it was. I would like for it to be CPO because it'll give me additional 2 years and 50k miles more on the warranty for free.

Syndicategt · 02-16-2010, 08:34 PM

Don't blindly trust the CPO program. A few years back I bought a "CPO" X5 from the dealership and when I sold it, 3 years later, turned out it had several "accidents" that showed up on the CarFax. When I bought the car the report was clean, the damages didn't appear until months after I bought the car.

Bora20 · 02-16-2010, 09:48 PM

CPO doesn't mean that it hasn't been in an accident. If it is fixed to BMW standards at a BMW approved shop, then it can be CPO.

And yes, dealerships can call it certified pre-owned and offer an independent warranty as well.

The only way to get a BMW CPO car is from a certified BMW dealer. That vehicle will come with an additional 2 year of warranty or 50,000 miles/80,000 km, with a small deductible to use the service. I think it is $50 CAD per visit up here, but I woudl have to check out paper work.

VTECaddict · 02-16-2010, 09:54 PM

If it's indeed BMW CPO then it will show up on CarFax. Shady dealers often have their own "certified" program which is not backed by the automaker.

wootang_clan · 02-17-2010, 06:11 AM

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Originally Posted by VTECaddict

If it's indeed BMW CPO then it will show up on CarFax. Shady dealers often have their own "certified" program which is not backed by the automaker.

I checked the CarFax and it does show that it's a BMW Certified Pre-Owned. Maybe they allow it if it's safe and a BMW approved brand?

Ryan323i · 02-17-2010, 07:11 AM

Hey man, do you have a link to the car on the dealer's website?

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Bora20 Lieutenant 17 Rep 464 Posts Drives: 2007 BMW X3 3.0si M-Sport Join Date: May 2006 Location: Kamloops, BC, CAD iTrader: (0)	In Canada, the wheels AND tires must be on the BMW approved list for the car to be CPO. The tread must also be above a certain limit. I doubt it could be CPO with non-OEM wheels. __________________ 2007 BMW X3 3.0si Titanium SilverBlack LeatherAutoPremiumM SportComfortActivityAssist & Bluetooth*
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Bora20 Lieutenant 17 Rep 464 Posts Drives: 2007 BMW X3 3.0si M-Sport Join Date: May 2006 Location: Kamloops, BC, CAD iTrader: (0)	Check out the inspection report requirements in Section 2. It states "all mismatched and/or non-approved safety related components with the Original Equipment Manufacturer (OEM) BMW parts must be replaced to meet CPO requirements." http://www.bmwusa.com/Standard/Conte...ification.aspx __________________ 2007 BMW X3 3.0si Titanium SilverBlack LeatherAutoPremiumM SportComfortActivityAssist & Bluetooth*
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Syndicategt Brigadier General 153 Rep 3,730 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Nor Cal iTrader: (11)	Don't blindly trust the CPO program. A few years back I bought a "CPO" X5 from the dealership and when I sold it, 3 years later, turned out it had several "accidents" that showed up on the CarFax. When I bought the car the report was clean, the damages didn't appear until months after I bought the car. __________________ 2008 BMW 335i e90 - Sold - Rob Beck Turbos / PROcede V5 / Aquamist HFS-4 / AR Downpipes / AE Exhaust / ER Comp FMIC / ER CP / TiAL BOV / Custom Intake / RPI Scoops / Quaife LSD / Swift-Koni Coilovers / DSS HS / Morr VS8.2 Sig Black / Michelin PSS / P3 Boost Guage / M3 body / M3 steering wheel / Adam's Rotors / Hawk HPS / SS lines /
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Bora20 Lieutenant 17 Rep 464 Posts Drives: 2007 BMW X3 3.0si M-Sport Join Date: May 2006 Location: Kamloops, BC, CAD iTrader: (0)	CPO doesn't mean that it hasn't been in an accident. If it is fixed to BMW standards at a BMW approved shop, then it can be CPO. And yes, dealerships can call it certified pre-owned and offer an independent warranty as well. The only way to get a BMW CPO car is from a certified BMW dealer. That vehicle will come with an additional 2 year of warranty or 50,000 miles/80,000 km, with a small deductible to use the service. I think it is $50 CAD per visit up here, but I woudl have to check out paper work. __________________ 2007 BMW X3 3.0si Titanium SilverBlack LeatherAutoPremiumM SportComfortActivityAssist & Bluetooth*
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