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      04-28-2010, 10:31 AM   #1
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Who makes the biggest meth nozzle?

I am running a m10 (coolingmist) with a 150psi pump and am flowing 760ml/min with 100% meth and still need more flow as my 4th gear timing is just below 10 (3rd gear timing is 14).
I would like to get a bigger nozzle as opposed to a better pump as it would be cheaper too.
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      04-28-2010, 10:34 AM   #2
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I am running a m10 (coolingmist) with a 150psi pump and am flowing 760ml/min with 100% meth and still need more flow as my 4th gear timing is just below 10 (3rd gear timing is 14).
I would like to get a bigger nozzle as opposed to a better pump as it would be cheaper too.
couldnt you also just make your tune slightly less agressive? I guess your point is you dont want to do that tho.
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      04-28-2010, 10:37 AM   #3
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Yep, I like my 15.6psi
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I think I will drop to map8 and see how my timing is too
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I am running a m10 (coolingmist) with a 150psi pump and am flowing 760ml/min with 100% meth and still need more flow as my 4th gear timing is just below 10 (3rd gear timing is 14).
I would like to get a bigger nozzle as opposed to a better pump as it would be cheaper too.
Have you looked at IATs? Are you running an aftermarket IC or DPs? Intake?
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      04-28-2010, 10:57 AM   #6
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my iat's are in the 50-low 60's in 3rd and dont go above 71 in 4th. I have dp's, dci, and a cp-e fmic in the mail
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http://www.alcoholinjectionsystems.c...duct_info.html

http://www.alcohol-injection.com/out...zzles-135.html

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      04-28-2010, 11:02 AM   #8
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How much boost?
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The largest nozzle you should even consider is a M10 and thats even overkill, the M7 is just right!
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Better pump. I can run an DO7 nozzle between 16.5-17PSI peak all day with great timing logs.
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So I found something interesting, I put some water in the tank (70/30) and my iat's went up, wtf?
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So I found something interesting, I put some water in the tank (70/30) and my iat's went up, wtf?
yea no shit lol supposedly running 100 percent meth is the best
i read a test on it
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I am so confused, then why would you run any water?

Everyone seems to be saying that it cools temps where meth does not.
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So I found something interesting, I put some water in the tank (70/30) and my iat's went up, wtf?
Did you use distilled water and not tap!
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Yep, no way I would put that crap in my engine always distilled.
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I am running a m10 (coolingmist) with a 150psi pump and am flowing 760ml/min with 100% meth and still need more flow as my 4th gear timing is just below 10 (3rd gear timing is 14).
I would like to get a bigger nozzle as opposed to a better pump as it would be cheaper too.

Get the 200-250 psi pump. The difference in flow will be more than noticeable. Keep your current nozzle.

The 150 psi pump with the M10 will get you about 110 psi of pressure. the 200-250 psi pump will get you about 200 psi of pressure. This translates into alot more flow. You would roughly go from 10 GPH to 13.8 GPH keeping the nozzle you have now. These numbers are appromiate but will give you an idea.

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I am thinking about it, now I like to run 80/20-100/0 meth mixtures and your pumps are only rated for 50/50. I have not had any problems thus far but this one is rated for 100%.
http://www.alcoholinjectionsystems.c...duct_info.html


Which should I go with?
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I am thinking about it, now I like to run 80/20-100/0 meth mixtures and your pumps are only rated for 50/50. I have not had any problems thus far but this one is rated for 100%.
http://www.alcoholinjectionsystems.c...duct_info.html


Which should I go with?

Not true. Since 2007 all of our pumps are compatible with any concentration of methanol or alcohol.

The "50/50" statement is for liability reasons. Its far less likely to cause a fire. In otherwords, the pump can run 100% methanol no problems, its EPDM seals are compatible, however you run a higher risk of catching something on fire. So if you choose a flammable concentration you assume all risks in case of fire. Pump is compatible.


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15.6 psi on meth? you need to crank that sucker up. I got great timing at 17+psi on DO10 @ 200 psi. I see 13 towards redline in 3rd gear at that much boost.
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15.6 psi on meth? you need to crank that sucker up. I got great timing at 17+psi on DO10 @ 200 psi. I see 13 towards redline in 3rd gear at that much boost.
+1, i see 14 at 15.6psi without meth.
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