New mod, best so far!

5soko · 05-15-2010, 01:19 PM

Long crank mod!
2010 E90 LCI 335i November,december build.
2,200 miles on it. 93 octane. proper break in to 1200 miles. Tuned at 1500. started long cranking at 2200

Im not getting any SES, CEL, or limps yet. But man is it embarrasing for a new bmw to start like this.

Some times it does it, sometimes it doesnt. Car runs good otherwise and Fuel pressure via JB3 logging is OK.

Havent got anround to checking codes though with a BT cable yet.

smack · 05-15-2010, 02:04 PM

Man thats ugly. Sorry to hear another pump going out.

BMOEW · 05-15-2010, 02:12 PM

damn that sound horrible sorry man

Bimmer This · 05-15-2010, 02:23 PM

That sucks!

i2iSTUDIOS · 05-15-2010, 04:22 PM

aww man that sucks

marcielago · 05-15-2010, 04:48 PM

Isn't it weird that only 335's are getting this HPFP problem, or are other models getting this problem too...??!!

Sorry to hear that dude

themyst · 05-15-2010, 05:32 PM

lol the problem is just as bad on a 135i.

I feel everyone's pain, I really do. It just never happened to me....

5soko · 05-15-2010, 08:09 PM

Thanks guys!

I know so annoying to have this happen so early and like a HALF-ASS HPFP FAILURE.
Takes a while to start but runs good.

My e92 335i had 20K on it when the full pump failed, but i never got long cranks prior to it failing just one day getting on boost, i got a Limp mode, SES, CEL. And went to the dealer and i got it replaced.

RevC · 05-15-2010, 08:37 PM

i got the newer model pump a couple months ago..and i've started to get *sort of long cranks* every now and then...i really hope bmw solved this problem..

5soko · 05-15-2010, 08:47 PM

Yea same here. I mean the car is only 4-5 months old.

I want to go to the dealer but im not sure they are going to do much for me since the car is running good just long cranks sometimes.
I dont want to go to the dealer like 4 times to finally get a pump changed, like if they update my software and bla bla bla before they change the pump.

But i am not going to live with long cranks, im gonna go to bmw next week or 2 and leave it with them and see what they do and think.

SS e93 · 05-16-2010, 12:08 AM

Depending upon the dealer, some will replace if they hear a long crank right away.

Topless///M · 05-16-2010, 09:33 AM

That's just retarded that after 3-4 years this is still going on.....

I remember when I bought my 2007.5, I was thinking to myself, I hope they got rid of this fuel pump issue on the first 6 month production run. To hear this is still going on is disappointing....c'mon BMW, what is going on?? They even changed the software to prime the fuel pump earlier that I was saying it could be so long ago...and they still can't come up wih a permanent fix??

C'mon, I love their cars, the way the steering feels, the great handling yet solid comfortable ride, but they need to resolve this issue already.

Sorry to hear OP....

Topless///M · 05-16-2010, 10:03 AM

hah! I found my post, I guess the engineers didn't think of this back then since the new HPFP priming software just came out, right? Kind of scary...

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...injection+hpfp

btw- I have a degree in Engineering.... BMWNA ? Any positions open?? I am right by corporate...

5soko · 05-20-2010, 12:02 AM

Well went and got my car scanned and this is what came up. Nothing else, tuner codes or anything, all clean.

I run map 7 on my stock new car

2FBF:
2FBF Fuel Pressure at Injection Release
Error will not cause a warning light
Error is currently present

It came up in 2 different occcasions.

Funny enough, since i posted this thread, i have not had one single long crank!

5soko · 06-05-2010, 06:31 PM

Update, car is going into the dealer this week.

3-4 different occasions i have thrown 2FBF

My last time i threw a 2FBF code i also threw a 2AAF code which got my E92 335i fuel pump replaced.

so 2 different codes with them being throw multiple times, lets see what the dealer thinks about it this week.
Will update with there procedure and there fuel pump they install p/n.

05-15-2010, 01:19 PM	#1
5soko Brigadier General 335 Rep 4,633 Posts Drives: M5 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Brooklyn, NY iTrader: (4)	New mod, best so far! Long crank mod! 2010 E90 LCI 335i November,december build. 2,200 miles on it. 93 octane. proper break in to 1200 miles. Tuned at 1500. started long cranking at 2200 Im not getting any SES, CEL, or limps yet. But man is it embarrasing for a new bmw to start like this. Some times it does it, sometimes it doesnt. Car runs good otherwise and Fuel pressure via JB3 logging is OK. Havent got anround to checking codes though with a BT cable yet.
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smack Lieutenant Colonel 34 Rep 1,569 Posts Drives: BMW's/Flex Polishers Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Spangdahlem Germany iTrader: (0)	Man thats ugly. Sorry to hear another pump going out.
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BMOEW Lieutenant Colonel 121 Rep 1,665 Posts Drives: 2011 335is AW Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: dallas, tx: Lebanon iTrader: (6)	damn that sound horrible sorry man
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Bimmer This Major General 99 Rep 6,473 Posts Drives: 2007 BMW 335i Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Westminster iTrader: (3)	That sucks!
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i2iSTUDIOS Captain 88 Rep 870 Posts Drives: BMW 335i Coupe Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Cincinnati, OH iTrader: (1)	aww man that sucks __________________ 2007 E92 335i / 6MT / Monaco Blue Metallic / Gray Dakota Leather / Comfort Assist / Premium / Sport / Heated Seats / Navi / Active Steering / Active Cruise Control / Park Distance Control / Rear Sunshade / Sirius MODS PicoTray / M3 Steering Wheel / Front OEM Aero Lip / Bimmian Aluminum Pedals / CDV / Ram Air Scoops / Painted Reflectors / HID 5000k / LED Angels / M Perf. Shifter / Euro Light Switch / 8500 x50 / Center Armrest Pouch / JB4 / BT
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marcielago Private First Class 12 Rep 177 Posts Drives: SG F10 550i MSport, CB E39 M5 Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Abu Dhabi iTrader: (0)	Isn't it weird that only 335's are getting this HPFP problem, or are other models getting this problem too...??!! Sorry to hear that dude
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themyst Major General 177 Rep 6,631 Posts Drives: '16 MK7 GTI Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: NYC iTrader: (8)	lol the problem is just as bad on a 135i. I feel everyone's pain, I really do. It just never happened to me.... __________________ E90 LCI N54 6AT
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05-15-2010, 08:09 PM	#8
5soko Brigadier General 335 Rep 4,633 Posts Drives: M5 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Brooklyn, NY iTrader: (4)	Thanks guys! I know so annoying to have this happen so early and like a HALF-ASS HPFP FAILURE. Takes a while to start but runs good. My e92 335i had 20K on it when the full pump failed, but i never got long cranks prior to it failing just one day getting on boost, i got a Limp mode, SES, CEL. And went to the dealer and i got it replaced.
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RevC Lieutenant General 178 Rep 11,768 Posts Drives: a couple fast toys Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Voorhees+cherry hill,NJ iTrader: (26)	i got the newer model pump a couple months ago..and i've started to get sort of long cranks every now and then...i really hope bmw solved this problem.. __________________ -Rev SGM e92 335xi\|Helix\|AFE\|AWE\|PROCEDE\|SYNAPSE\|ER\|OSS\|BMW PERFORMANCE\|P3\|always growing..
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05-15-2010, 08:47 PM	#10
5soko Brigadier General 335 Rep 4,633 Posts Drives: M5 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Brooklyn, NY iTrader: (4)	Yea same here. I mean the car is only 4-5 months old. I want to go to the dealer but im not sure they are going to do much for me since the car is running good just long cranks sometimes. I dont want to go to the dealer like 4 times to finally get a pump changed, like if they update my software and bla bla bla before they change the pump. But i am not going to live with long cranks, im gonna go to bmw next week or 2 and leave it with them and see what they do and think.
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05-16-2010, 12:08 AM	#11
SS e93 Captain 27 Rep 850 Posts Drives: e93 M3 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: new york iTrader: (2)	Depending upon the dealer, some will replace if they hear a long crank right away.
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05-16-2010, 09:33 AM	#12
Topless///M Private First Class 10 Rep 193 Posts Drives: e92 335i 6mt, 94 probe gt Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Jersey iTrader: (0)	That's just retarded that after 3-4 years this is still going on..... I remember when I bought my 2007.5, I was thinking to myself, I hope they got rid of this fuel pump issue on the first 6 month production run. To hear this is still going on is disappointing....c'mon BMW, what is going on?? They even changed the software to prime the fuel pump earlier that I was saying it could be so long ago...and they still can't come up wih a permanent fix?? C'mon, I love their cars, the way the steering feels, the great handling yet solid comfortable ride, but they need to resolve this issue already. Sorry to hear OP....
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Topless///M Private First Class 10 Rep 193 Posts Drives: e92 335i 6mt, 94 probe gt Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Jersey iTrader: (0)	hah! I found my post, I guess the engineers didn't think of this back then since the new HPFP priming software just came out, right? Kind of scary... http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...injection+hpfp btw- I have a degree in Engineering.... BMWNA ? Any positions open?? I am right by corporate...
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05-20-2010, 12:02 AM	#14
5soko Brigadier General 335 Rep 4,633 Posts Drives: M5 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Brooklyn, NY iTrader: (4)	Well went and got my car scanned and this is what came up. Nothing else, tuner codes or anything, all clean. I run map 7 on my stock new car 2FBF: 2FBF Fuel Pressure at Injection Release Error will not cause a warning light Error is currently present It came up in 2 different occcasions. Funny enough, since i posted this thread, i have not had one single long crank!
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06-05-2010, 06:31 PM	#15
5soko Brigadier General 335 Rep 4,633 Posts Drives: M5 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Brooklyn, NY iTrader: (4)	Update, car is going into the dealer this week. 3-4 different occasions i have thrown 2FBF My last time i threw a 2FBF code i also threw a 2AAF code which got my E92 335i fuel pump replaced. so 2 different codes with them being throw multiple times, lets see what the dealer thinks about it this week. Will update with there procedure and there fuel pump they install p/n.
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